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2016-08-11, 11:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
I think ultimatly Id end up with Tzeentch...something tells me wed have MAD RPG's with that guy...Seriously...hed have like...400 campaigns preplanned before I got there....Its not Railroading if he knows ALL your choices :P
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2016-08-11, 11:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
I've played in PbtA games run by other people, and some friends of mine are running a Fate campaign right now, but that may not be representative of the population at large. I've never needed to teach either to people, though, and I've found both of them pretty intuitive to learn.
For versions, Fate Core has a pay-what-you want PDF, but that's the only version I've read, so others may be preferable. I don't have the Apocalypse World or Dungeon World books, but I've heard the former recommended as The Perfect Design of its creator, and the latter recommended as being more readable and accessible. I'm not the best authority on this, though.
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2016-08-12, 07:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
I will say - while I find the concepts interesting, I couldn't get through the core Apocalypse World book. The writing is terrible. It feels like it's written by a less literate version of the kid from The Catcher in the Rye (which I consider to be one of the most overrated books of all time).
Last edited by CharonsHelper; 2016-08-12 at 07:16 AM. Reason: spelling correction
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2016-08-12, 08:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
I'm not sure declaring a much-beloved book from the canon as overrated helps you make your point, but this is obviously pure opinion that.. isn't even criticism. It's just a statement of dislike and then a weird insult.
Not really much of a constructive addition to the conversation.
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2016-08-12, 08:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-12, 09:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
I've heard a lot of complaints about the writing style in Apocalypse World, but I've never read it myself. Maybe the 2nd edition will be less grating for the people it bothers. There are still a number of extremely well written and easy to follow games using that engine, so the suggestion that folks should read some still stands.
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2016-08-12, 11:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
For PbtA, I'd recommend Apocalypse World itself first, or Monster of the Week if that's more to your taste. (the writing style on AW is definitely polarizing, and the existence of the sex moves just bugs some folks).
For Fate Core, you can get all of the core .pdfs (Fate Core, Fate Accelerated, and teh System Toolkit) on a pay-what-you-want basis. When I couldn't get BW to work, I switched to Fate, and found it much easier to get going. There can be a bit of 'square peg round hole' stuff in Fate Core, and I humbly suggest the "Book of Hanz" for some guidance on some of the things that might work subtly different than they appear.
It, and the excellent Olaf vs. The Orcs sample situation both are available at http://www.evilhat.com/home/fate-core-downloads/Last edited by kyoryu; 2016-08-12 at 11:37 AM.
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2016-08-12, 11:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
I find the sex moves stop bugging people if you just change "sex" to "a moment of significant physical or emotional intimacy."
It changes the dynamic in a way that makes people much more comfortable with the concept. (There's a hack that does this called Apocalypse World Lite, I believe.)
As for the writing style, it is certainly not purely technical, and Baker makes an active attempt to be evocative, since it's meant to be part of the teaching. One of the principals is to Barf Forth Apocalyptica, and the book does that. *shrug* So you'll get a lot of descriptions that are not strictly mechanical but explain how things should feel. For instance the Brainer description is less clear about the function than about the feel, but there is a more mechanical paragraph right after. All the technical is in there and is written fine. It just depends on whether or not evocative description applied liberally all over the place. (I doubt a Burning Wheel fan woulf object, Tbh.)
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2016-08-12, 02:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
(Keep in mind that *I* don't have issues with those things, but I've run into a number of folks that do.)
Also, IIRC, there's a certain amount of leeway in the "special" moves in that they typically refer to intimacy, which can be interpreted several ways.
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2016-08-12, 04:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-12, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-14, 11:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-14, 08:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
I think ultimatly Id end up with Tzeentch...something tells me wed have MAD RPG's with that guy...Seriously...hed have like...400 campaigns preplanned before I got there....Its not Railroading if he knows ALL your choices :P
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2016-08-14, 08:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
PbtA means Powered by the Apocalypse, meaning games that are hacks/reskins/reimaginings of the game Apocalypse World.
It is like all those d20 System games that came out by Wizards that were basically "D&D but actually ___."
They're all different systems, but the core of them is the same.
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2016-08-14, 08:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-14, 08:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
Ok, so assuming I look up and read Apocalypse World, Ill have everything I need to understand all the other systems.
I think ultimatly Id end up with Tzeentch...something tells me wed have MAD RPG's with that guy...Seriously...hed have like...400 campaigns preplanned before I got there....Its not Railroading if he knows ALL your choices :P
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2016-08-14, 08:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-14, 08:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
You'll have the rough framework. They can be pretty different games, though.
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2016-08-14, 08:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-14, 08:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
Yeah; the rules are all structured the same procedurally, but they get used in very different ways. Apocalypse World, being the first, has seen a ton of derivatives, and they've all worked to advance the core engine in some way, generally by adding or tweaking something.
But the core dice mechanic, as well as the approach to GMing, is almost identical between games. It's a skeleton that other games get built around.
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2016-08-14, 09:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
What in your opinion is the best "version" to start reading?
I think ultimatly Id end up with Tzeentch...something tells me wed have MAD RPG's with that guy...Seriously...hed have like...400 campaigns preplanned before I got there....Its not Railroading if he knows ALL your choices :P
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2016-08-14, 10:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-14, 11:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2016-08-15, 12:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
Monster of the Week is pretty much awesome. Evil Hat did the revised version, and they do a fan-flipping-tastic job of PDFs.
You can't go wrong with the original Apocalypse World, still, however. THe only drawback is some find the writing style and profanity levels to be off-putting.Last edited by kyoryu; 2016-08-15 at 12:43 AM.
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2016-08-15, 02:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Is Burning Wheel dead? What systems do YOU think should be played more!
I would really like to see a game made by Obryn, Kurald Galain, and Knaight from these forums.
I'm not joking one bit. I would buy the hell out of that. -- ChubbyRain
Current Design Project: Legacy, a game of masters and apprentices for two players and a GM.
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2016-08-18, 12:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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