Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #32: More Seasons than the Simpsons

[ManicOppressive]

A 38 Read as written, Pounce provides a full attack following a charge. The standard attack at the end of a charge is a part of the charge action, which means that Pounce allows you to "charge" (as in, move whatever distance), attack, and then full attack. Thus, Rhino's Rush doubles the standard attack that is part of the charge ("...the first charge attack you make...") and not the full attack.

[Metahuman1]

Q 39: Is there a way, RAW, to make/modify a weapon so it can be used by a creature that has tentacles, but no normal humanoid arms and hands?

[DarkSonic1337]

Q40

Is there a way to make spell trigger items of mysteries without learning the mystery through your class?

[kkplx]

Q22

Battlemagic Perception
"Counterspell attempts are otherwise handled normally, and you can counter the spell even if you do not have line of sight to the spellcaster"

Does this mean that you still need to expend, together with ending the battlemagic perception, a spell that enables counterspelling the spell in question? (i.e. any dispel magic, or the same spell as you attempt to counterspell)

Reposted, since it was not answered so far

[ManicOppressive]

A22

Yes. "This determination happens quickly enough that you can
attempt to counter the spell as a free action." just means that you can counter as a free action where normally you would have to have a readied action. You still have to "attempt to counter the spell", meaning throw an appropriate spell out to counter it.

A39

No, not as such. If you're on the DM side, the RAW friendly rule for it would be to put "This weapon will not function unless the wielder has claws." in the weapon description, because the DM can totally make new magic/mundane items. There's not a great equivalent in the DMG for what you want, though. If you mean on the player side, no, there's no ruled way to do that.

A40

There's not a ruled method, no, unless you just roll with transparency rules. Tome of Magic is not renowned for its consistent and elucidated rules, so you won't have much luck hoping for explanations of how shadow magic works with other forms of magic.

[Troacctid]

Q40

Is there a way to make spell trigger items of mysteries without learning the mystery through your class?

A40

There's not a ruled method, no, unless you just roll with transparency rules. Tome of Magic is not renowned for its consistent and elucidated rules, so you won't have much luck hoping for explanations of how shadow magic works with other forms of magic.

Correction! The bonded item rules in DMG2 allow you to ignore most of the prerequisites for a crafted item, and may work depending on which item you want. You can also use wish to bypass the crafting process entirely.

[kkplx]

Q41

If a creature casts a spell, let's say fireball, modified by metamagic, let's say quicken spell, is the only thing a counterspelling spellcaster has to provide a fireball of his/her own, regardless of metamagic modification or lack thereof?

[AlanBruce]

Q. 42

The Banner of the Storm's Eye (MiC p. 151) states that:

As long as it is held aloft, the banner automatically suppresses (but does not dispel) fear effects on all creatures within 20 feet. It also prevents any creature within 20 feet from becoming confused or stunned.

Which is pretty clear, especially with the stunned aspect, which is why most people get the banner in the first place.

However, I found this allegedly official wording on the same item online in Eberron Unlimited:

Effect: A banner of the storm’s eye automatically suppresses (but does not dispel) any fear effects within 20 feet. It also removes the confused and stunned conditions from everyone within 20 feet, if a supernatural or spell-like ability caused that effect.

Is the Eberron Unlimited version an update from the one in the MiC?

If so, would the Stunning Fist feat affect someone in possession or within the area of such banner, or is the feat itself considered a (Su) ability?

[ManicOppressive]

A 41

Metamagic has no effect on the spells required to counter. Quickened Maximized Silent Still Fireball is still countered by regular old Fireball.

Incidentally, there's not even anything in the rules about a quickened spell being harder to counter, despite that it would logically be harder to identify a spell cast nigh-instantaneously.

A 42

I'm not intimately familiar with Eberron Unlimited but I don't think it's official. At any rate, there is no errata officially recorded for the item as listed in MIC, so the MIC entry is correct.

[kkplx]

Q43

If a creature uses an amulet of natural weapons made for 4 natural weapons, and enchanted with spellstoring, are the following things true?
1. Each natural weapon affected by the amulet can have a spell stored in it
2. Each of the natural weapons can discharge the spell stored in them once

[Andezzar]

A 43

I'm pretty sure you mean the Necklace of Natural Attacks (scroll down to Magic Items).

Both statements are true, but you would have to pay for the four "spell slots" as you would four four +1 spell storing weapons.

[MaxiDuRaritry]

Q44: I seem to recall a magic weapon property that you can apply to a double-weapon which allows you to reassign the weapon's enhancement bonuses round-by-round on either end. What's the name and where can I find it?

[VoxRationis]

Q45: Wasn't there a Spider domain around somewhere? How did that work? I'm trying to stat out some clerics of a non-evil spider deity.

[KillianHawkeye]

A 45

The Spider domain is detailed on page 91 of Player's Guide to Faerun and on page 280 of the Spell Compendium.

[Thurbane]

Q 046

Question about the Entropic template (Planar Handbook p.122): it changes to the creature type to Outsider. The templates says not to recalculate the base creature's HD, BAB, or saves. However, skills are not mentioned. Does the creature gain the standard amount of skill points for Outsider racial hit dice?

[Andezzar]

A 046

No, not unless the template tells you to.

An entropic creature uses all the base creature’s statistics and abilities except as noted here.

[erok0809]

Q47

Does text that specifies a formula override a subsequent example that is supposed to show what the formula means, but they don't match up? The specific text that makes me ask is on Elder Evils p. 17, in the sidebar. The Overwhelming Sign states that undead gain turn resistance equal to one-quarter of their HD total, but then immediately follows that by saying "1-7 HD gain +1, 8-15 gain +2, 16-23 get +3, and so on," which is not one-quarter of their HD. Is there a general rule for this sort of situation, or is it just a DM call which to believe?

[kkplx]

Q48

Exactly what are the conditions and limitations of a warmage regaining his spell slots?
A wizard needs 8 hours of rest, a healer needs to hit a specific time each day, what about the warmage?

[torrasque666]

Q49: A Khaasta has 3 racial hitdie and a level adjustment of +3. But the "Khaasta as Characters" section says that a Khaasta PC's effective character level is its class levels +3 and gives the examples of a first level fighter being ECL 4. Does this mean that Khaastas technically get to ignore their RHD when being played as characters?

[Hecuba]

A49: By RAW, yes - the explicit statement of how to calculate this race's ECL would override the standard rule.

In practice, however, the real answer is that Fiend Folio was remarkably inconsistent about calculating LA, ECL, and RHD properly. As a general rule, when that book messed something up like this, it's because they included RHD as part of LA: that does seem to be the case here, so you're probably better ignoring the LA than the RHD

[MaxiDuRaritry]

Q49: A Khaasta has 3 racial hitdie and a level adjustment of +3. But the "Khaasta as Characters" section says that a Khaasta PC's effective character level is its class levels +3 and gives the examples of a first level fighter being ECL 4. Does this mean that Khaastas technically get to ignore their RHD when being played as characters?

A49: Sample characters are basically all flawed. Don't take the builds with a grain of salt -- you'll need a warehouse full, at least.

[Hecuba]

A49: Sample characters are basically all flawed. Don't take the builds with a grain of salt -- you'll need a warehouse full, at least.

A49 clarification: It's not just a sample character - is an explicit "Khaasta Characters" rules section that explicitly says that their ECL is class level +3 despite listing 3RHD and 3LA. The offending text is on page 116 of Fiend Folio.

It's worth noting that Fiend Folio was a late 3e book - it could somewhat be forgiven the error in isolation, as ECL\LA\RHD was codified as part of the change. But the issue isn't fixed in the update booklets or in the Serpent Kingdom rerun of the Monster entry.

[KillianHawkeye]

A49 clarification: It's not just a sample character - is an explicit "Khaasta Characters" rules section that explicitly says that their ECL is class level +3 despite listing 3RHD and 3LA. The offending text is on page 116 of Fiend Folio.

It's worth noting that Fiend Folio was a late 3e book - it could somewhat be forgiven the error in isolation, as ECL\LA\RHD was codified as part of the change. But the issue isn't fixed in the update booklets or in the Serpent Kingdom rerun of the Monster entry.

Re: 49

This would seem to be an obvious rules dysfunction that would require individual DM's adjucation. I could tell you how I would rule it, but that goes beyond the scope of this thread.

[Metahuman1]

B 50: Is there an Item called Hewerds fortifying Bedroll, and if so, what book is it in, and what page number.

[nyjastul69]

A50 Yes, Complete Mage page 132.

[KrimsonNekros]

Spoiler: Q 50: Spoiler for Iron Chef

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The Ranger Wild Shape Variant from UA requires that they sacrifice their combat track to gain Wild Shape as a Druid. The Champion of the Wild variant from Complete Champion grants bonus feats based on which combat track a ranger takes. Does taking the prior prevent the latter from working?

[St Fan]

A 51

Yes, taking the first ACF prevent from gaining anything based on combat style.
Note that Champion of the Wild still allow a choice of some bonus feats independently of the combat style. Thus you can still benefit from the ACF, just with a reduced list to choose from.

[St Fan]

Q 52
The actions in combat rules, in the Full Attack section, specify that you can decide after an initial attack to either make a move action (thus making the attack a standard action), or to pursue with the remaining of your attacks, making it a full-round action.

Does this also applies if the first attack is a special attack (like a strike maneuver from the Book of Nine Swords) that normally takes a standard action? Can you make a strike as the first attack of a full attack action, and then use your other normal attacks?

[Khedrac]

A 52 No If someone initiates a standard action strike then they cannot make a full attack as they have used their standard action which is then not compatible with taking a full attack.
Note, although normally a character can decide whether to complete a full attack or not after their first attack, the rules get unclear if the first attack takes a penalty based on there being a full attack (e.g. rapid shot, flurry of blows or two-weapon fighting) - if they decide not to continue with the attack then should the retrospectively re-calculate their attack's effect? (No)

[Wacky89]

Q 53
Person A is charging with pounce on an opponent
Person B immediate actions Shadow Cloak (DoTU) in response to the first attack
Person A wants to swift action Chronocharm of the Horizon Walker to follow after him and do the rest of his attacks

Is Person A allowed to do that?