The Rant Thread

[SDF]

As a general rule if someone in a customer service role is nice to you while on the job, it isn't because they are into you, it's because they are providing good customer service. 100% of the time.

[grimbold]

Omg Grimmy I have a boyfriend omg ok bye

(dooooooo do that yes snugs)

NOOOOOO
Now I just have to facebook stalk away my sexual frustration

Why can't girls like me? I wear all the sweetest flame button downs and fedoras. My beard is starting to reach my beard and not just my neck now!

(Also serps - is bearded grimmy a good look?)

[Mister Loorg]

my rant is that you can't post anything in the rant thread without getting continually bashed for it

[Murk]

Isn't it kind of a requirement for a rant to be either illogical or wrong, preferably both? Otherwise, it's just a valid complaint or a passionate attempt to better the world.

Poort Bartman is just doing a good rant. That's what he's here for!

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my rant is that you can't post anything in the rant thread without getting continually bashed for it

I got ninja'd by a lego figure, who has a valid point here, and keeps it short - so while I agree with the lego ninja, it's not a good rant.

[Lethologica]

What rants, in particular? Can I rant about how everyone has terrible taste in music but me?

yes please do oh my god this thread

[grimbold]

my rant is that you can't post anything in the rant thread without getting continually bashed for it

Can my rant be "why is it that this forum I used to love has been ruined by MRA's?"

[DJ Yung Crunk]

yes please do oh my god this thread

Don't tempt me. I'll do it, you know.

[AvatarVecna]

Don't tempt me. I'll do it, you know.

As far as threats go, this is pretty mild. So uh...I dare you? Whatever.

[RabbitHoleLost]

What rants, in particular? Can I rant about how everyone has terrible taste in music but me?

Moff Chumley used to have a thread that was this exactly, I think.
All, the old days.

SIGHS WISTFULLY

[Lethologica]

Don't tempt me. I'll do it, you know.

Now you're just making me beg. It's undignified.

[Teddy]

Isn't it kind of a requirement for a rant to be either illogical or wrong, preferably both? Otherwise, it's just a valid complaint or a passionate attempt to better the world.

Poort Bartman is just doing a good rant. That's what he's here for!

If you need to spill out whatever illogical and misdirected complaints you happen to harbour, these boards are really not the best forum for doing so. There's a pretty strong feminist (as well as many other equalities) community here, and some of us aren't particularly content with letting people use tired entitlements to shift all the blame for their failures and mishaps onto other people uncontested. It happens everywhere across the Internet and the physical world already, we don't need it on our home field too.

[Razade]

Can my rant be "why is it that this forum I used to love has been ruined by MRA's?"

You can't be serious. "Ruined by MRA's", where exactly? The forums seem fairly progressive in general.

[JNAProductions]

You can't be serious. "Ruined by MRA's", where exactly? The forums seem fairly progressive in general.

Pardon my ignorance, but Googling MRA gets me a magnetic resonance angiogram. I'm pretty sure that's NOT what is meant.

Edit: Men's Right Activists, according to some pals. That correct?

[Razade]

Pardon my ignorance, but Googling MRA gets me a magnetic resonance angiogram. I'm pretty sure that's NOT what is meant.

It isn't. It stands for Men's Rights Activists. A group comparable to internet feminists in so far as they both have wildly rabid bands of members who...well let's just say if you gave them enemas they could be buried in matchbooks. The idea that this forum has been "ruined by" said group is...laughable.

[JNAProductions]

Also, if y'all don't mind, I've got a minor rant. Tis about a friend of mine-and I'll preface this by saying he's a good guy, very kind, but he kinda irked me as of late.

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We were driving to a Games Workshop for fun times, and we were talking about Giant in the Playground. He said he didn't like internet arguments, since nothing ever gets resolved and no one changes their minds. I agreed with him... For the most part. I think this forum has a surprising amount of people who actually DO listen and change their minds, or at least are open to new viewpoints.

Anyway, afterwards, we got on the topic of optimization, and I brought up the 3E lead hat trick. He said that felt like metagaming and he'd never allow it, and that it felt very artificial. I said that it made perfect sense in setting, especially for a 20+ Int Wizard, but he didn't really accept that, and followed it up by saying "No matter how many examples you bring up, you're not going to change my mind, so just stop talking about it."

Am I unreasonable to be a little irked at the hypocrisy?

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This is at GW, same day. He said that another guy we're friends with at the store runs a pretty hard army (in Age of Sigmar), but that's okay, because he owns up to it.

I run a list I myself call "brutal" in 40k. He has (the first friend, not the other guy) on several occasions given me a lengthy talk about how my army isn't really sporting and how I need to own up to it... Despite the fact that I call it a brutal army, and either play people who know me or warn them "My list is absolutely killer" before playing.

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This is the big one. We were, still same day, at lunch with a third friend. The third friend brought up transgenderism, just as a minor detail (some guy who starred in a dumb youtube video is now a girl-didn't see the video, and which video isn't really relevant). After lunch, he said he was surprised that I had brought it up, since I knew his views on it. I actually did not, and he said that he thinks that man and woman were made in god's image, and that god didn't make mistakes. This kinda upset me, since I have transgender friends (and the thing is, so does he) and he's basically saying that they're all wrong. It just... I dunno. Like I prefaced this with, he's a nice guy, and he wouldn't hurt anyone or even really judge anyone-but his view just seems sort of wrong to me.

Also, if anyone thinks this is too religious for the forum, just let me know and I'll remove this-I don't THINK it's too religious, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

[Lethologica]

Also, if y'all don't mind, I've got a minor rant. Tis about a friend of mine-and I'll preface this by saying he's a good guy, very kind, but he kinda irked me as of late.

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We were driving to a Games Workshop for fun times, and we were talking about Giant in the Playground. He said he didn't like internet arguments, since nothing ever gets resolved and no one changes their minds. I agreed with him... For the most part. I think this forum has a surprising amount of people who actually DO listen and change their minds, or at least are open to new viewpoints.

Anyway, afterwards, we got on the topic of optimization, and I brought up the 3E lead hat trick. He said that felt like metagaming and he'd never allow it, and that it felt very artificial. I said that it made perfect sense in setting, especially for a 20+ Int Wizard, but he didn't really accept that, and followed it up by saying "No matter how many examples you bring up, you're not going to change my mind, so just stop talking about it."

Am I unreasonable to be a little irked at the hypocrisy?

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This is at GW, same day. He said that another guy we're friends with at the store runs a pretty hard army (in Age of Sigmar), but that's okay, because he owns up to it.

I run a list I myself call "brutal" in 40k. He has (the first friend, not the other guy) on several occasions given me a lengthy talk about how my army isn't really sporting and how I need to own up to it... Despite the fact that I call it a brutal army, and either play people who know me or warn them "My list is absolutely killer" before playing.

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This is the big one. We were, still same day, at lunch with a third friend. The third friend brought up transgenderism, just as a minor detail (some guy who starred in a dumb youtube video is now a girl-didn't see the video, and which video isn't really relevant). After lunch, he said he was surprised that I had brought it up, since I knew his views on it. I actually did not, and he said that he thinks that man and woman were made in god's image, and that god didn't make mistakes. This kinda upset me, since I have transgender friends (and the thing is, so does he) and he's basically saying that they're all wrong. It just... I dunno. Like I prefaced this with, he's a nice guy, and he wouldn't hurt anyone or even really judge anyone-but his view just seems sort of wrong to me.

Also, if anyone thinks this is too religious for the forum, just let me know and I'll remove this-I don't THINK it's too religious, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

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1. Well, it is an exploit, and it can feel artificial, but it also makes sense in setting given that the exploit exists, and he is being hypocritical.
2. Well, he better pay attention.
3. Well, this is obviously a biased sample of his behavior, but I'm not a fan. Like, he's not just holding this view, he's expressing displeasure that you would even mention the topic given that he holds this view. That's a weirdly controlling reaction.

[JNAProductions]

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1. Well, it is an exploit, and it can feel artificial, but it also makes sense in setting given that the exploit exists, and he is being hypocritical.
2. Well, he better pay attention.
3. Well, this is obviously a biased sample of his behavior, but I'm not a fan. Like, he's not just holding this view, he's expressing displeasure that you would even mention the topic given that he holds this view. That's a weirdly controlling reaction.

Spoiler: Not Sure Why Still Spoilered, But Who Am I To Buck A Trend?

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1-Okay. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't being unreasonable in being irked. It's a minor thing, really-I'm pretty much over it by now.

2-Eeyup.

3-We've had some pretty strong disagreements that have made our friendship rocky in the past, and that's what he's trying to avoid.

[2D8HP]

Can my rant be "why is it that this forum I used to love has been ruined by .....

The idea that this forum has been "ruined by".......

Please just no.
Let's just argue about things like Dungeons & Dragons, My Little Pony, and Pokemon.
Pretty please?

[Illven]

Please just no.
Let's just argue about things like Dungeons & Dragons, My Little Pony, and Pokemon.
Pretty please?

Pikachu is a USELESS PIECE OF ****!

How about we talk about God! Or The pokemon that's greater then God!

Arceus, and Mega Rayquaza for those at home.

[AvatarVecna]

Let's just argue about things like Dungeons & Dragons, My Little Pony, and Pokemon.

Of the three, I think we all know which one is clearly the worst.

[JNAProductions]

Of the three, I think we all know which one is clearly the worst.

Pocket Monsters... Which is really saying something, since I like Pokemon! It's just that all three are pretty dang awesome.

[DataNinja]

Of the three, I think we all know which one is clearly the worst.

Pocket Monsters... Which is really saying something, since I like Pokemon! It's just that all three are pretty dang awesome.

Well, I've got a link to a mix of two of them in my sig. And I know that at least one person has brewed up some Pony variants to go in it, so, there you go. Why choose?

Confound it! Who brought civility into this rant thread?

[Kid Jake]

Well now I want to make a game where preteens force sentient ponies to do battle in their backyards for their amusement.

[DJ Yung Crunk]

Moff Chumley used to have a thread that was this exactly, I think.
All, the old days.

SIGHS WISTFULLY

Oh, dang, I remember him! Man, good times.

[Misery Esquire]

Aha!

At which I can successfully vent my spleen and thereby become a calmer person by reducing the many complaints I would like to wish to register with life itself for review and arbitration!

...Wait, no. I'm already calm. I just like the idea of writing long dissertations about minor things that bother me. Just the idea of it, though. I wouldn't actually enjoy writing them for someone to read. It would damage my secret standing.

Maybe this rant is that I don't have the drive to rant correctly. But then, isn't a rant usually just an angry digression from a civilized conversation? Though, I suppose it has been seeing use as a impassioned speech filled with bile and rhetoric. Not to say that rhetoric is a problem, of course. And bile is best left in the stomach. Not that anyone means the physical acidic bile when that say that. It is merely a curious expression to do with something that you feel brings that effect; the taste of sick to the back of your throat. Which is thoroughly unpleasant and explains why few people ever refer to any part of their own rants as "bile".

... I'm not entirely sure where I'm going with this. And I can pretend that's irritating. Grr & such.

[Astrella]

Aha!

At which I can successfully vent my spleen and thereby become a calmer person by reducing the many complaints I would like to wish to register with life itself for review and arbitration!

...Wait, no. I'm already calm. I just like the idea of writing long dissertations about minor things that bother me. Just the idea of it, though. I wouldn't actually enjoy writing them for someone to read. It would damage my secret standing.

Maybe this rant is that I don't have the drive to rant correctly. But then, isn't a rant usually just an angry digression from a civilized conversation? Though, I suppose it has been seeing use as a impassioned speech filled with bile and rhetoric. Not to say that rhetoric is a problem, of course. And bile is best left in the stomach. Not that anyone means the physical acidic bile when that say that. It is merely a curious expression to do with something that you feel brings that effect; the taste of sick to the back of your throat. Which is thoroughly unpleasant and explains why few people ever refer to any part of their own rants as "bile".

... I'm not entirely sure where I'm going with this. And I can pretend that's irritating. Grr & such.

Meta-rant! :D

[Teddy]

Also, if y'all don't mind, I've got a minor rant. Tis about a friend of mine-and I'll preface this by saying he's a good guy, very kind, but he kinda irked me as of late.

Spoiler: Event 1

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We were driving to a Games Workshop for fun times, and we were talking about Giant in the Playground. He said he didn't like internet arguments, since nothing ever gets resolved and no one changes their minds. I agreed with him... For the most part. I think this forum has a surprising amount of people who actually DO listen and change their minds, or at least are open to new viewpoints.

Anyway, afterwards, we got on the topic of optimization, and I brought up the 3E lead hat trick. He said that felt like metagaming and he'd never allow it, and that it felt very artificial. I said that it made perfect sense in setting, especially for a 20+ Int Wizard, but he didn't really accept that, and followed it up by saying "No matter how many examples you bring up, you're not going to change my mind, so just stop talking about it."

Am I unreasonable to be a little irked at the hypocrisy?

Is it really hypocrisy, though? Saying that you don't like discussions where noone is willing to change their viewpoint does not mean that condemn refusals to change your mind, only that you don't find such discussions fun. Sure, saying outright that you aren't going to change your opinion no matter what may be a bit hypocritical, but people are prone to exaggeration as a part of natural speech, and you have to consider whether he really meant it or not.

Also, note that he did it to shut the discussion down. As far as I read it, you didn't give him any good enough arguments for him to consider changing his mind, and he didn't enjoy the discussion, so he stopped it. Sure, "Can we just cut this short, I'm not having fun" would be less hypocritical, but if you want him to say so, try to say so next time this happens.

[veti]

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We were driving to a Games Workshop for fun times, and we were talking about Giant in the Playground. He said he didn't like internet arguments, since nothing ever gets resolved and no one changes their minds. I agreed with him... For the most part. I think this forum has a surprising amount of people who actually DO listen and change their minds, or at least are open to new viewpoints.

Anyway, afterwards, we got on the topic of optimization, and I brought up the 3E lead hat trick. He said that felt like metagaming and he'd never allow it, and that it felt very artificial. I said that it made perfect sense in setting, especially for a 20+ Int Wizard, but he didn't really accept that, and followed it up by saying "No matter how many examples you bring up, you're not going to change my mind, so just stop talking about it."

Am I unreasonable to be a little irked at the hypocrisy?

Actually, I don't think that was hypocrisy.
Item 1: he doesn't enjoy arguments where nothing gets resolved and no-one changes their minds
Item 2: he doesn't want to participate in an argument where he's not prepared to change his mind.

These two points are perfectly consistent with one another. What would be hypocritical would be if he did enter a vigorous debate with you, on a topic on which he wasn't willing to be persuaded.

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This is the big one. We were, still same day, at lunch with a third friend. The third friend brought up transgenderism, just as a minor detail (some guy who starred in a dumb youtube video is now a girl-didn't see the video, and which video isn't really relevant). After lunch, he said he was surprised that I had brought it up, since I knew his views on it. I actually did not, and he said that he thinks that man and woman were made in god's image, and that god didn't make mistakes. This kinda upset me, since I have transgender friends (and the thing is, so does he) and he's basically saying that they're all wrong. It just... I dunno. Like I prefaced this with, he's a nice guy, and he wouldn't hurt anyone or even really judge anyone-but his view just seems sort of wrong to me.

Also, if anyone thinks this is too religious for the forum, just let me know and I'll remove this-I don't THINK it's too religious, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Sorry, I think there's a small inconsistency in your story here. You say your friend brought up the topic, but your other friend said you brought it up. Is that what you meant when you said "I actually did not", or did you mean you didn't know his views?

Either way, whenever religion comes up, you need to make allowances for the fact that the believer is speaking a completely different language from the non-believer. The words sound the same, but their meanings are changed in ways that make the whole discussion a minefield. Which probably has a lot to do with why the whole topic is banned from here. Only you can decide whether you're willing to let a thing like that spoil your friendship - depends how much you value it, I guess.

[2D8HP]

Meta-rant! :D

Dang those blasted Meta's to heck!

[Bobbybobby99]

You know, this is probably the least coherent thread I've ever seen here.

It's a refreshing change of pace, except for the giant angry faces and vaguely sexist remarks.