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Lord of the Sevenfold Shadows(COUNTERING FAMOUS OPTIMIZED CHARACTERS BUILDS)
As requested , I am giving more details of the build and even created a FAQ with the doubts of the last thread .
But I'm still editing , ask patience .
Important consideration, completely rule out any infinite loop, Artifact or Epic Level
Mechanics: I am fallowing rules to be a Practical Optimization:
No infinite loops
Max 1 summon while combat(Gate, Planar Ally, Ice Assassin or Similar)
Allowd Familiar, Druid Animal Companion or Similar
Spoiler: Monster Stat Block
Master of Shadows CR 20
hp 627 (19 HD)
Male fey Marshal 1/ Divine Stalwart Dragon-Blooded Sorcerer 5/Tainted Sorcerer 1/ Dweomerkeeper 10/ Spelldancer 1/Zhentarim Skymage 1
LE Large Fey (Evil, Dragonblooded); Master of the Hunt Body(MM V.202)
Init +138; SensesVariable vision; Spot +155
Languages Permanent Tongues
AC 173, touch 119, flat-footed Never;
Immune electricity, exhaustion, fatigue, mind-affecting
spells and abilities
Fort +178, Ref +188, Will +196
Speed 210 ft fly, 290 ft(Dragon)
Melee+5 Ego Bastard Sword (non metal/Quintessence) +134/+128/+122/+116 (6d8+52/19–20×3) (Touch Attack)
Space 10 ft.; Reach 10 ft.
Special Actions Supernatural Spell 4/day, Spelldance, Dexterity Aura, Divine Companion, Domain Acess, Draconic Spell-like, Fly mount(Vampire Greater Wyrm Shadow Dragon), Enigma Aura, Blood Component, Tainted Supression, Tainted Metamagic, Tainted Spellcasting, Arcane Sight, Cloak of Mysteries, Hidden Spell, Cloak of Mystery
Spoiler: Spells without know stones DetailSorcerer Spells Known (CL 60th)(DC 138+ Spell level): (Access to extra spells with drake helms dnd exchanging useless spells with Dragonblood pact and retraining spells)
9th—Wish, Ice Assassin, Shapechance, Invoke Magic, Imprisonment, Mage Disj, Sphere of Ultimate Destruction, Alamanther Return, Mind Rape,
8th—Greater Arcane Fusion, Superior Invisibility, Minute Form, Greater Betow Curse, Greater Celerity, Mystic Shield, Mind Blank, Moment of Prescience, Veil of Undead
7th—Planar Bubble, Arcane Spellsurge, Limited Wish, Body outside Body, Antimagic Aura
6th—Mental Pinnacle, Antimagic Field, Eye of Oracle, Force Shapechange, Analyze Dweomer, Trance of The Verdant Domain
5th—Arcane Fusion, Teleport, Greater Blink, Telekinesis, Baleful Polymorph, Kiss of the Vampire, Wall of Stone, Shadow Form
4th—Celerity, Friendly Fire, Ruin Delver's Fortune, Voice of the Dragon, Otiluke's Supressing field, Blacklight, Stifle Spell
3rd—Permeable Form, Vision of the omniscient eye, Gust Wind , Dolorous Blow, Antecipate Teleport, Nauseating Breath, Spiderskin
2nd—Wings of Cover, Heroic, Wraithstrike, Whirling Blade, Chamaleon, Suffer to flesh, Blur, Cloud of Knives
1st—True Strike, True Casting, Hail of Stone, Eyes of Avoral, Strenght of True Form, Undetectable Aligment, Shieldbearer
Cantips:
prestidigitation, detect magic
How to have access to all the spells of other lists?
Ring of Theurgy (Complete Arcane)= You can store any magic and be cast as if it were of their known spells , you must have a caster to supply the rings.
The Master of Shadow can summon dragons and angels to access spells. Examples:
Planetar ,
Elemental Weirdy(MM II)
Dragons (Arcane and Divine Spells)
It is also possible to use its own mount pet ( Zhentarim Skymage ) to supply the rings.
Slayers and Minions can also do it.
A Simulacrum
Abeil, Queen: Druid Acess
Black Ethergaut: Wizard Acess
Elemental Weirdy: Sorcerer Acess
Sorcerer Spells:
9th—Elmister Evasion
8th—Veil of Undead
Cleric Spells:
9th—Greater Visage of Deitie, Monstruous Thrall, True Ressurection
8th—General of the Undead, Mind Blank
7th—Blasphemy, Holyword
6th—
5th—Divine Agility, Surge of Fortune
4th—Divine Power, Consumptive Field, Death Ward, Freedom of Moment, Mark of the Enlightened Soul
3rd—Sheltered Vitality, That Art Thou, Spark of Life
2nd—Find Trap
1st—Sanctuary
Druid Spell:
9th—Greater Whirlwind
8th—Unearthly Beauty, Stormrage
7th—
6th—
5th—Owl's Insight
4th—
3rd—
2nd—
1st—
Magic Domain Acess
Magic Aura:
Identify:
Dispel Magic:
Imbue with Spell
Spell Resistance:
Antimagic Field:
Spell Turning:
Protection from SpellsMF
Mage's Disjunction
Necrotic spell acess
Corrupt Spell acess
Spell-like: Wings of Cover/3day, Share to allies, Celerity
Supernatural Abilite: Ice Assassin
Spoiler: Spells with knowstones(Dragon #333) DetailSorcerer Spells Known (CL 60th)(DC 138+ Spell level): Knowstones to acess extraspells
9th—Wish, Ice Assassin, Shapechance, Invoke Magic, Imprisonment, Mage Disjunction, Sphere of Ultimate Destruction, Alamanther Return, Mind Rape, Srinshee's Spell Shift, Instant Refuge, Miracle(Lucky domain)
8th—Greater Arcane Fusion, Superior Invisibility, Minute Form, Greater Betow Curse, Greater Celerity, Mystic Shield, Mind Blank, Moment of Prescience, Ghostform
7th—Planar Bubble, Arcane Spellsurge, Limited Wish, Body outside Body, Antimagic Aura
6th—Mental Pinnacle, Antimagic Field, Eye of Oracle, Force Shapechange, Analyze Dweomer, Trance of The Verdant Domain, Contingency Spell
5th—Arcane Fusion, Teleport, Greater Blink, Telekinesis, Baleful Polymorph, Kiss of the Vampire, Wall of Stone, Shadow Form
4th—Celerity, Friendly Fire, Ruin Delver's Fortune, Voice of the Dragon, Otiluke's Supressing field, Blacklight, Stifle Spell
3rd—Permeable Form, Vision of the omniscient eye, Gust Wind , Dolorous Blow, Antecipate Teleport, Nauseating Breath, Spiderskin
2nd—Wings of Cover, Heroic, Wraithstrike, Whirling Blade, Chamaleon, Suffer to flesh, Blur, Cloud of Knives
1st—True Strike, True Casting, Hail of Stone, Eyes of Avoral, Strenght of True Form, Undetectable Aligment, Shieldbearer
Cantips:
prestidigitation, detect magic
How to have access to all the spells of other lists?
Ring of Theurgy (Complete Arcane)= You can store any magic and be cast as if it were of their known spells , you must have a caster to supply the rings.
The Master of Shadow can summon dragons and angels to access spells. Examples:
Planetar ,
Elemental Weirdy(MM II)
Dragons (Arcane and Divine Spells)
It is also possible to use its own mount pet ( Zhentarim Skymage ) to supply the rings.
Slayers and Minions can also do it.
A Simulacrum
Abeil, Queen: Druid Acess
Black Ethergaut: Wizard Acess
Elemental Weirdy: Sorcerer Acess
Sorcerer Spells:
9th—Elmister Evasion
8th—Veil of Undead
Cleric Spells:
9th—Greater Visage of Deitie, Monstruous Thrall, True Ressurection
8th—General of the Undead, Mind Blank
7th—Blasphemy, Holyword
6th—
5th—Divine Agility, Surge of Fortune
4th—Divine Power, Consumptive Field, Death Ward, Freedom of Moment, Mark of the Enlightened Soul
3rd—Sheltered Vitality, That Art Thou, Spark of Life
2nd—Find Trap
1st—Sanctuary
Druid Spell:
9th—Greater Whirlwind
8th—Unearthly Beauty, Stormrage
7th—
6th—
5th—Owl's Insight
4th—
3rd—
2nd—
1st—
Magic Domain Acess
Magic Aura:
Identify:
Dispel Magic:
Imbue with Spell
Spell Resistance:
Antimagic Field:
Spell Turning:
Protection from SpellsMF
Mage's Disjunction
Necrotic spell acess
Corrupt Spell acess
Spell-like: Wings of Cover/3day, Share to allies, Celerity
Supernatural Abilite: Ice Assassin
Abilities Str-, Dex 77, Con 51, Int 35, Wis
72, Cha 90
Feats 35 feats(detail below); Extend Spell, Transdimentional Spell, Combat Casting, Iron Will, Mounted Combat, Persistent Spell, Twin Spell, Practical Metamagic(Twin Spell), Craft Contigent Spell, Arcane Thesis(Greater Arcane Fusion), Rapid Spell, Daley Spell, Sculpt Spell, Silent Spell, Still Spell, Smiting Spell, Fell Draining Spell, Mother Cyst Spell, Item Familiar(Max Hide skill), Draconic Heritage(Deep Dragon), Corrupt Arcane, Sanctum Spell, Arcane Strike, Spell focus(Necromancy), Undead Battery, Planar Touchstone(Catalogues of enlightenment-Trickery Domain), Fell Energy Spell, Mage Killer, Experienced Spellcaster, Supernatural Instinct, Shadow Weaver Magic, Arcane Strike, Improved Counterspell, Reactive Counterspell, Divine Sorcery(Lucky Domain)
Skills Hide +202(217 when Shapechance), Spot +158, Bluff +130, Diplomacy +58, Performy +46, Disguise +77, Spellcraft +38, Use Magic Device +48, Use Psion Device +46,Knowledge(Religion) +10, Knowledge(Planes/Arcane) +36
Spoiler: Highlight
Stealth:
The master of the shadows can hide and spy on their opponents with ease
+217 hide check, Superior Invisibility, Nondetection, Ex Vecna-Blooded, MindBlank, Supernatural Blacklight(Invoke Magic),
It will hardly be detected, if detected , it uses second impression skill trick to avoid being detected.
he uses Analyze Dweomer to discover all the craft contigent spell , to avoid surprises .
It will analyze all spells and target effects, will analyze all target weaknesses before attacking.
No risk, he used his Supernatural ice assasin(Shadow Duplication of Master of Shadows or Target clone) to avoid being attacked , it also uses riding dragons(Vampire Greater Wyrm Shadow Dragon) to use spells and attack targets with ease ( Skymage )
Self Aleax Ice Assassin(Supernatural Necrotic Tumor +Supernatural Mindrape)
Great advantages in the initiative(+138 initiative)
Smiting Spell + Whirling Blade = Supernatural Imprisonment(142 save), Greater Betow Curse(141 save), Antimagic Aura(140 save).
If the target cast spells / Spell-like or Supernatural abilitie, it will be intercepted.(Mage Killer/Supernatural Instinct feats)
The intercepted target will be affected by smiting spells.(it can be deadly)
Multiple Actions
Twin Greater Arcane Fusion
Slot 7, Sanctum Greater Celerity
Slot 4, twin Celerity
6 standard action + 2 move action
Many Arcane fusion possibilities that can make all the difference.(very powerful combinations . It can be extremely deadly)
He can persist all spells that have access .
Body Outside Body
His clones can cast several supernatural abilities , including mage disjunctun , wishes, wings of cover .
If the enemie want to escape to your demiplane, the enemie have problems, Mental Pinnacle + Psicrown Metafaculty will find him. And I know all about your plan. Knowledge(Planes). And do not even try to block my entry, Supernatural Wish (Teleport) can bypass any defenses.
Vecna-Blooded
Any target that try to find out any information(Divination or Similar) about the Master of Shadows will automatically fail and will be relieved the name , appearance and location. And it can be extremely dangerous.
Enigma Aura is deadly
Arcane Fusion and Greater Arcane Fusion
Spoiler: Details
Spoiler: Class detailClass Entry:
Divine Sorcerer: Complete Champion. PG 54
Domain acess(Entry Dweomerkeeper): Your Depth of belief allow you to channel divine power the way a cleric does
Dragonblood Sorcerer: Races of the Dragons. Pg 107
Spell-like Ability acess:
Stalwart Sorcerer: Complete Champion Pg 37
2 bonus feat:
Spelldancer(Class entry): Master of Shadows use heroic spells.
Spoiler: StatsVenerable Master of Hunt Body
STR
Ability Augmentation (Fell Energy Spell feat + Kiss of the Vampire) +2 all ability bonuses
Base 35
+5 Wishes
+6 Visage Of The Deity, Greater
+2 Drugs
+4 Elation (Morale)
-10 Minute Form
+8 Extract Gift (Enchant)
+30 (Consumptive Field) ( Limitless )
Total 80
Dexterity
Ability Augmentation ( Fell Energy Spell feat + Kiss of the Vampire ) +2 all ability bonuses
Base 40
+5 Wishes
+2 Drugs
+12 Divine Agility ( Enchant )
+8 Minute Form
+6 Visage of the Deity, Greater
+4 Elation
Total 77 DEX
Constituition
Ability Augmentation ( Fell Energy Spell feat + Kiss of the Vampire ) +2 all ability bonuses
Base 38
+5 Wishes
+2 Drugs
+6 Visage Of Deite
+4 Elation
-2 Minute Form
Total 53
Intelligence
Ability Augmentation ( Fell Energy Spell feat + Kiss of the Vampire ) +2 all ability bonuses
base 16
+5 Wishes
+8 Extract Gift ( Ench )
+4 Visage of the Deity, Greater
+2 Drugs
Total 35
Wisdow
Ability Augmentation ( Fell Energy Spell feat + Kiss of the Vampire ) +2 all ability bonuses
+18 Base
+5 Wishes
+3 Ages
+6 Visage of the Deity, Greater
+2 Drugs
+32 Owl's Insight ( Competence )
+8 Extract Gift ( Enchant )
-2 Magic Blooded
Total 72
Charisma
Ability Augmentation ( Fell Energy Spell feat + Kiss of the Vampire ) +2 all ability bonuses
Base 18
+5 Level
+5 Wishes
+2 Magic Blooded
+2 Unseelie Fey
+1 Magical Location (Worm of Minauros)
+6 Devil Ego ( Profane Bonus )
+6 Righteous Aura ( Sacred )
+6 Visage of the Deity, Greater
+2 Drugs
+3 Age
+38 Powerleech ( Always Draining From my Dragon Pet )
Total 94 Charisma
Spoiler: SavesSaves: Ability Augmentation ( Fell Energy Spell feat + Kiss of the Vampire ) +2 all bonuses
Fort: 8 + 21(Con)+3(Resistence)+44(Persisted Ruin Delver's Spell)+42(Shapechange to Death Giant MMIII) +60(Shield(Su)-Divine Sorcerer) = 178(188 against spells/spell-like)
Reflex: 6 +33(Dex)+3(Resistence)+44(Persisted Ruin Delver's Spell)+42(Shapechange)+60(Divine Companion)=188(198)
Will: 13 + 31(Wis)+3(Resistence)+3(Iron Will)+44(Persistend Ruin Delver's Spell)+42(Shapechance)+60(Divine Companion)=196(206)
Spoiler: SkillsSkills: (Fell Energy Spell feat + Kiss of the Vampire) +2 all bonuses
*Planar Touchstone(Catalogue)= Trickery Domain; Hide, Disguise, Bluff acess
*Draconic Heritage(Deep)=Spot acess
*Extract Gift = +15 all skills
Hide: 23 +33(Dex)+42(Dexterity Aura/Marshal)+30(item Familiar) +16(Minute Form)+7(Spiderskin)+12(Chamaleon)+6(Greater Heroism)+22(Forestfold)+15(Extract) = +206
Spot: 23+31(Wis)+42(Death Giant)+10(Eye of the avoral spell)+12(Vision of the ominiscient eye)+22(That Art Thou)+15(Extract)=+155
Bluff: 23+42(Charisma)+6(Greater Heroism)+12(Voice of the Dragon)+32(Gibliness potion)+15(extract)= +130
Diplomacy: 0+42(Charisma)+6(Greater Heroism)+12(Voice of the Dragon)+15(Extract)=+75
Performy(Dance): 10+42+6+15= +73
Disguise: +77
Spellcraft: +38
Use Magic Device: +50
Use Power Device: +48
Knowledge(Planes): +36
Knowledge(Arcane):+36
Spoiler: ACAC: 10 + 60 Deflection(Shield(Su)/Divine Companion/Divine Sorcerer)+33(Dex)+5(Eye of the Oracle)+4(Cover Dragon) +7(Insight)= 119 Touch
Spoiler: InitiativeInitiative: +33(Dex)+42(Dexterity Aura/Marshal)+10(Gear)+7 Primal Instinct + 42(Death Giant)+2(Traits)= +136
Spoiler: Attack RollAttack Roll: 1d20(Choose 20/Surge of Fortune)+20(Divine Power)+ 35(STR)+5(Enchant)+6(Morale)+8(Minute Form)+20(Arcane Strike feat)+20(True Strike)+3(Haste)= +137 Crit hit(Vorpal Weapon)(Touch attack)
Whirling Black Roll: 1d20(Choose 20/Surge of Fortune)+20(Divine Power)+ 42(STR)+5(Enchant)+6(Morale)+8(Minute Form)+20(Arcane Strike feat)+20(True Strike)+3(Haste)= +144 Crit hit(Vorpal Weapon)(Touch Attack)
Spoiler: Caster LevelCaster Level: 60 Caster Level
Base 20
Bead of karma: +4 caster
Suffer to flesh: +5
Arcane Gloves: +2
Tatoo: +3
Adept Spirit +3 Insight
Mark of the Enlightened Soul(Good Spells), +2 Untype
Consumptive Field=+20
Spoiler: DefensesDefenses: Shieldbearer + Reflective TowerShield = Total Cover
Craft Contigent Spell Condition: When the enemy cast Mage Disjunctun or similar with metamagic effect : Twin Greater Arcane Fusion
he uses Invoke Magic Supernatural Blacklight and abuse of hiding check
If the enemy cast some supernatural or magic effect will be intercepted(Mage Slayer/Supernatural Instinct) , no DEX AC (Blacklight)
Spoiler: Shapechange + Strenght of the true form
Good Picks: Death Giant, Shadesteel Golem, Aspect of Leviitan(Elder Evil)
Undead Battery(Age of Mortals)=Free metamagic
Tainted Metamagic=Con damage to Free metamagic
Spoiler: Feats35 Feats: Embrace the Dark Chaos/Shun the Dark Chaos/Pysichic Reformation/Retraining rules:
18 level = 7 feats
Elf Original Race= 5 feats
Marshal Bonus=1 feat bonus
Draconic Bloodline bonus = 2 feat bonus
Flaws: 2 bonus
7 Site locations( Othy Hole, Metamagic Storm and others ): 7 bonus feat
Elder Evil fighting = 5 bonus feat
Tainted= 2 Bonus feat
Symbiotic Creature= Free Empowered Spell
Stalwart= 2 bonus feat
Seling Soul: 2 bonus feat
Spoiler: DC Check
DC Check: Evil Subtype and Undead are ignore tainted negative effect.
Evil Subtype and Kiss of the Vampire(Undead)
The limit for tainted score will be the maximum that it can survive without evil subtype . Avoiding the infinite loop.
DC=10+144(Tainted Score)+ Spell level +10(If Irresistible spell)
Spoiler: Vampire Greater Wyrm Shadow Dragon PET
It is incredibly efficient , Share Spells(Skymage) combined with powerful spells can be very dangerous .
Spoiler: BuffsBuffs: Extend/Persist everything if possible.
Shapechange(Death Giant/Shadesteel Golem or Elemental Weirdy)
Hide Life
Greater Visage of Deitie(Good)
Foresight(Elemental Weirdy)
Invisibility Superior
Minute Form
Mystic Shield
Veil of Undead
Mind Blank
Moment of Prescience
General of Undead
Unearthly Beauty
Stormrage
Arcane Spellsurge
Planar Bubble
Extraordinary Spell aim/Selective Spell Antimagic Field
Eye of Oracle
Analyse Dweoper
Greater Blink
Kiss of the Vampire
Owl Insight
Divine Agility
Surge of Fortune
Friendly Fire
Ruin Delver's Fortune x3
Voice of the Dragon
Consumptive Spell
Supernatural Spell Blacklight(Invoke Magic)
Supernatural Spell Death Ward(Invoke Magic)
Supernatural Spell Freedom of Moment(Invoke Magic)
Supernatural Spell Sheltered Vitality(Invoke Magic)
Second day, Supernatural Sanctum Kiss of the vampire(Invoke Magic)
Invoke Magic Permeable Form
Vision of The omniscient eye
Dolorous Blow
Antecipate Teleport
Spiderskin
That Art Thou
Heroic x5
Whaithstrike
Chamaleon
Bladeweave
FellDrain Maximized Twin Cloud of Knive(Invoke Magic)
Find Trap
Forestfold
Gibliness(potion)
Primal Insting(potion)
Eye of Avoral
Strenght of the true form
undetectable aligment
Shieldbearer
Shadow Form
Spoiler: Craft Contingent Spell Trigger
When Master of Shadows os attacked: Twin GAF
When the enemie use Time Stop: Time Spo
When Master of Shadows attack: Twin GAF
When Lord of Shadows start a counterspell: Srinshee's Spell Shift
When the Enemie use Celerity or Similar: Twin GAF x 14
Spoiler: Infinite Loop DefinitionPay attention: This is a way to have a viable and acceptable battle on an adventure.
Infinite loop has no clear definition. So I will try to define it.
Any action which has no limit established then have any multiple feats, spells, bodys:
Example: Shun the Dark Chaos an Otughy Holed (Multiples Feats) or Other sites multiple times.
Infinite Greater Arcane Fusion
Infinite Money or a limit not set.
Infinite Spells or a limit not set
Any action that may be abusable accumulating the same effect repeatedly, even if it really is not infinite:
Example: Awaken + Animal shapechange = Magical Beast
New Animal shapechange + New Awake
Craft contingency spell is not an infinite loop, it has a set limit. Max your HIT DICE.
Detail, this build is able to use all these tricks. But it will be only a TO build.
Spoiler: FAQFAQ:
Q: How you will use Metafaculty?
A: Mental Pinnacle + Psicrown Metafaculty + Use Psionic Device=60 Manifester level + Surge of Fortune
Q:How you will counter craft contingent spell?
A: Analyse Dweomer and know your trigger condition
Q: Mindsight can detect you?
A: No. Superior Invisibility block all senses except touch.
Q: Master of The Hunt Body?
A: This is a Optimized Character. True, Mindswift against Master of The Hunt Body
Q: Ice Assassin of youself?
A: Yes, Master of Shadows use your shadow clone to avoid dangerous. Ice Assassin + Mindrape + Necrotic Tumor
Q: Infinite spell or DC check?
A: No. Every spellcaster can use infinite loops, Master of Shadows never use more spell than Sorcerer daily spell + Charisma Bonus
Master of Shadowns limits its tainted score the most he would survive without evil subtype
Q: Towershield unable your attack?
A: Yes, but Arcane Fusion is not an offensive spell; Target:Personal
Q: Use Dragonpact/retraining/Shun of the dark chaos/Embrance of the dark chaos/Psychic Reformation is infinite loop?
A: No, Change limited spell/feat per another is no a infinite loop.
Q: How do you apply metamagic in lvl 9 spells?
A: Undead Battery
You can pick any famous character optimized to counter .
Infinite Loop character is not allowed.
Spoiler: Killing ExFighter
Using stealth to approach to analyze the enemy. Soon, the Home attaque . I use the Ice Assassin , not to take any risk. ( Superior Invibility )
Step 1 : Daleyed Twin Greater Arcane Fusion
Step 2: Surprise Action + Twin Greater Arcane Fusion
Slot 7: Body Body outside ( 12 clones)
Slot 4: Sanctum Teleport ( Hide )
Each Clone : Cast Spell -like Celerity + Mage Disjuction against Exfight
Second Twin Greater Arcane Fusion
Slot 7: Sanctum Greater Celerity
Slot 4: Twin Celerity
6 standard action +2 move actions
Whirling Blade +148 Touch, Discharging Imprisonment (148 DC will , Greater Betow Curse ( uncontrollable mutation . )
or
Force shapechange ( DC 145 )
Using other actions to kill him .
Spoiler: Killing H.I.V.E buildStep 1) The Master of Shadows will analyze all target weaknesses. Analyze your contingent spells ( Countering it) .
To not be ambiguous , all my spells contingents have the same trigger(GAF contingency) that the H.I.V.E. Except 3:
1) When Master of Shadows attack : Twin GAF
2) When the enemie cast Time Stop or Similar: Time Stop
3) When Master of Shadows is attacked : Twin GAF
Step 2) Before the attack :
Daley Twin Repeat GAF :
Slot 7: Sanctum Greater Celerity
Slot 4: Twin Celerity
Standart 6 + 2 Action Move Action
Standart 6 + 2 Action Move Action next round.
Cast non persisted spells and smiting Spells + Invoke Magic
The attack + Contingency Twin GAF :
First GAF :
Slot 7: Body outside Body
Slot 4: Sanctum Arcane Fusion ( slot 4: Creepling Darkness , Slot 1: Sanctum Supernatural Wind Gust )
Gust Wind counter yours swarms
Second Twin GAF :
Slot 7: Antimagic Field
Slot 4: Whirling Blade
Metamagic Spells inside GAF :
Antimagic Field: Sculpt ( Line) + Selective Spell ( Ego Bastard Sword )
Whirling Blade: Sculpt ( Line) + Twin + Transdimentional Spell + Invoke Magic
Whirling Blade + Smiting Spell feat
Imprisonment : 168 Will Save
Greater Betow Curse : 167 Will Save
Death by thorn : 166 Will save
Of course, still has the action of the clones (Described Above) : It seems to be the end.
If H.I.V.E trying to cast a spell . A Clone cast Supernatural Stifle Spell
The target must succeed on a Concentration check ( DC equal to 158+ the level of the spell being cast) to ignore the distraction , or else it loses the spell .
Each clones cast Spell-like Celerity+Supernatural Time Stop
Use Enigma Aura(120 feet) + Supernatural Dimensional Lock + Prepare action to use Supernatural Mage disjunction when the target does any action.
If the target does not get to win 50 % Enigmatic Aura , use Supernatural Alter Fortune . ( Try again )
12 clones to H.I.V.E try kill.
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is it lord draco? I bet its lord draco
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Feats: Cleave, Great Cleave, Greater Spell Focus (illusion), Improved Overrun, Improved Sunder, Persuasive, Power Attack, Spell Focus (illusion), Weapon Focus (greataxe)Spoiler: Collectible nice thingsMy incarnate/crusader. A self-healing crowd-control melee build (ECL 8).
My Ruby Knight Vindicator barsader. A party-buffing melee build (ECL 14).
Doctor Despair's and my all-natural approach to necromancy.
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insinuation involves hinting and suggesting and obfuscation. I am outright stating.
I love how his new build is such a cut and paste of his last build that he STILL has "delay spell" misspelled as "daley spell". I mean, he keeps building and rebuilding this guy but he still can't proofread it.Last edited by Gallowglass; 2016-08-17 at 11:12 AM.
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I wish him good luck in taking down Khepri. Hell, good luck in taking down the basic H.I.V.E. build.
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Re: Revenge of the true master arcane(COUNTERING FAMOUS OPTIMIZED CHARACTERS BUILDS)
So... Which famous build is this meant to counter?
Pun-Pun? It can't be Pun-Pun, Pun-Pun owns this thing.I have a LOT of Homebrew!
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Re: Revenge of the true master arcane(COUNTERING FAMOUS OPTIMIZED CHARACTERS BUILDS)
awww, I was gonna grab the popcorn.
If I call for one of our heroes, does that make me a damsel in distress? Red Fel, Red Fel, Red Fel!
Wait. I see Taint rules. So taint but no infinite loops? I mean, I think most T'OP builds aren't truly infinite, so they're fair play?
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Abilities Str 80, Dex 77, Con 51, Int 35, Wis
72, Cha 90
Feats 40 feats
Which Famous builds are you 'countering' here?
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...What is happening here? This seems to be a recurring user who is not taken terribly seriously. I don't recognize him, so can't comment on that, but the "Build" presented doesn't explain how anything is achieved, from the crazy stats to the boatload of feats and spells known.
Throw the dice high.
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The build in the OP is remarkably similar to another build that has popped up here before: it has similar mechanics, a similarly shaky grasp of the rules, even several of the same freaking misspellings. The relevant part is that the poster in question got banned after the first time they posted the build and spent 60+ thread pages being extremely argumentative, insulting to other posters, and acted at several points in direct opposition to instructions from a moderator (instructions intended to make the thread a bit less hostile). Now, that's not a problem; banning happens, especially when you treat other posters like garbage and ignore the mods when they tell you to stop doing a thing. Interestingly enough, a new thread popped up much later with basically the entire build copy-pasted in the OP, labelling it as a villain handbook and claiming this build was the ultimate sorcerer (although at least this time, there were no images of half-naked sorcerer dudes showing off their sick abs). Now, claiming that an account isan alternate account of a previously banned poster is a difficult claim to prove at the best of times, but this seemed a pretty clear case...right up to the point where the poster admitted to being an alternate account for the previously banned poster, at which point he was once again banned.
And here we are again: another suspiciously similar build, another suspiciously similar posting style, but at least this time there's enough differences that it's possible this isn't the same, so that means all we can really do is report our suspicion and then watch what happens...hence the fetching of popcorn and tortilla chips.
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The opening poster submitted the thread before they were done writing the opening post.
The opening poster is not being taken seriously because one person suspects they are an alternate account for a former member that was not taken seriously (perhaps justifiably) in one of those 40+ page argument threads.
As such you are seeing the forum react to Page 1 of this thread, even before the opening post is finished, as if it were just the next page of ridicule and argument of that 40+ page argument thread.
Welcome to Giants in the Playground. You are in for a bitter show.Last edited by OldTrees1; 2016-08-17 at 12:23 PM.
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Re: Revenge of the true master arcane(COUNTERING FAMOUS OPTIMIZED CHARACTERS BUILDS)
Perhaps you still have time? Ask the mods if they can lock/delete this thread that you accidentally started before your opening post was ready?
Although all evidence points to the forum being toxic towards your posting this thread. So my honest advice would be to lock this thread, finish the opening post, and post it to another forum.Last edited by OldTrees1; 2016-08-17 at 12:26 PM.