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    Quote Originally Posted by Segev View Post
    Total tangential side note: Given that the difference between Light and Dark side seems to be presented as one of "cold will" vs. "hot passion" fueling your force powers, I've always wanted to see a Dark Side user who fueled his Force-use with positive emotions. Joy, excitement, wonder. "Look what I can do!"
    There are probably many sects among the local Lightside cults around the Galaxy who do just that. Mostly healers and shamans and diviners who use their powers to heal and help people.

    But the thing about the Jedi, they want to be able to fight and manipulate people if necessary for the greater good. If you are a guy used to fuel your Force Powers with emotions, and one day you need to hurt or kill somebody, you will most probably use your anger and hate and fall to the Dark Side...

    The Jedi need to remain calm and cool while using their powers because the sometimes use violence. A Force User who just heals could probably fuel his powers with love and empathy without risk.

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    Ah, so your hypothesis is that the Dark Side isn't about emotion, but about "dark" emotion. So "happy" emotions are light side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Segev View Post
    Ah, so your hypothesis is that the Dark Side isn't about emotion, but about "dark" emotion. So "happy" emotions are light side?
    Well in Shadows of the Empire (book) Vader attempts to use happy emotions with the Force and can't because he's grown too used to using the Dark Side (he does almost manage to heal himself with sheer rage).

    The only books I've read where Dark Side is just emotion are ones that contradict how it is shown to function in the movies (the Corruptive aspects), and Luke wasn't using the Dark Side in Episode IV but was using the Force while definitely under sway of an emotion (Hope), and again in Episode VI when he was fighting for fear of his friends it wasn't the Dark Side, it was only when he slipped into Anger. Qui-Gon also professed the same and Episode II and III hammer home how the Jedi Order had grown blind and Yoda switches philosophies at the end of III.

    So it's fairly well supported in the films.

    Timothy Zhan, NJO, and some of the games contradict, but at least Timothy Zhan does so in direct contradiction to the films which mostly just points to being a flawed source.

    Meanwhile Stackpole further show emotional light side Force use a lot with Corran Horn.

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    English is actually a very precise language in a lot of ways, and American English in particular has a habit of following other languages down back alleys, clubbing them over the head, and rifling through their lexicons that I think is very healthy for its evolution.
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    That's on the game designers, not you. That's a poorly chosen name for the class. It's not what people think of when they hear the word "monk". Hell, even if you specified a buddhist monk I'd think of something closer to the Dalai Lama and his crew than Shaolin.

    We have the same problem with the "vermin" type, whose contents coincide exactly with the english word "bug" but are described in game using a word that generally also includes rodents
    That's an aspect of English. "Vermin" is an actual English word for any animal that is not useful but posses an indirect harm, either by spreading diseases, stealing food, destroying crops or disturbing game. Depending on the time and place, examples include foxes, rodents, insect pests and sparrows.

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    Whoa, some thread necromancy here. Funny, I actually remember seeing this thread come up back when it was living.
    I realized immediately after logging in for the first time that I should have called my account 'Dire Lemming.' Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharur View Post
    That's an aspect of English. "Vermin" is an actual English word for any animal that is not useful but posses an indirect harm, either by spreading diseases, stealing food, destroying crops or disturbing game. Depending on the time and place, examples include foxes, rodents, insect pests and sparrows.
    Um...yes, that's what Bohandas was talking about. D&D defines "vermin" as specifically "bugs," but the generally-used definition is much broader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWyrmGold View Post
    Um...yes, that's what Bohandas was talking about. D&D defines "vermin" as specifically "bugs," but the generally-used definition is much broader.
    Exactly. Although I admit I worded my initial post somewhat confusingly

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    They're different in standard Mandarin.
    In Cantonese, they are even more distinctly different.

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    Whoa, some thread necromancy here. Funny, I actually remember seeing this thread come up back when it was living.
    Which is rather appropriate considering the thread started with the undead (vampires).
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    While reading the Hobbit, I misunderstood what the elves were and imagined elves that work in Santa's workshop.

    It made Rivendell take on a whole different tone.
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    When i was a kid i saw a stage assistant's magician in an erotic outfit swallow swords, spin on the sword, and do a load of things with snakes and scarier bugs.

    I thought that was probably her usual behaviour rather than just an act. and the show was displaying how inhuman she was. Like i imagined she'd go home and bath in a pit of centipedes or something.
    I doubt i'm remembering it right, but that stuff captured my imagination.



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    I originally thought Vampires were like sabre-toothed humans that like ripped out your throat. I'm not entirely certain why, probably because I saw some scary art or a Halloween costume covered with blood or something. Later, after reading some token vampire stuff, it occurred to me that the straw-fangs made a lot more sense. Of course, now that I've actually looked it up and demonstrated a passing interest in vampire lore, I realize that both are normal interpretations.

    I used to think that all elves were girls. I don't know why; but it made total sense at the time. I didn't have the inverse perception of dwarfs, though.



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    I used to think that all elves were girls. I don't know why; but it made total sense at the time. I didn't have the inverse perception of dwarfs, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWyrmGold View Post
    Um...yes, that's what Bohandas was talking about. D&D defines "vermin" as specifically "bugs," but the generally-used definition is much broader.
    D&D "vermin" type includes rats, I believe, as well. At least the non-dire versions. I'm pretty sure I've seen rat swarms as "vermin (swarm)" type.
    Maybe I'm misremembering.



    This is a weird childhood misconception that is entirely due to how I first heard the words, but I actually thought "Scorpion" meant "were-panther" (without having knowledge of the notion of a were-anything at the time), for several years as a small child.

    This came about because I was watching the She-Ra origin movie: He-Man and She-Ra, Secret of the Sword. In it, there's a scene where Force-Captain Adora calls out two characters' names as implicit orders to attack: "Catra! Scorpia!"

    However, what I saw was the character Catra responding to the order by pulling down her visor and turning into a panther. So I thought it had been: "Catra, scorpia!" as in, "Scorpia" was a verb-order, meaning, "turn into the cat form."

    It was several years later, after having learned that scorpions were arachnids with stinger-tails, that I noticed the second character, who was essentially a woman-scorpion hybrid that would not be out of place as the hybrid form of a were-scorpion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Segev View Post
    D&D "vermin" type includes rats, I believe, as well. At least the non-dire versions.
    Nope, animal


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    Quote Originally Posted by Segev View Post
    Ah, so your hypothesis is that the Dark Side isn't about emotion, but about "dark" emotion. So "happy" emotions are light side?
    The Aing-Tii monks put it like this: "The Aing-Tii have a different view of the Force. Not in terms of Jedi or Dark Jedi—of black and white, as it were—but in a way I like to think of as a full-color rainbow."

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    Fair.
    Bacon is credited with the creation of the Scientific Method, and I thought it made more sense to reference someone who everyone would instantly recognize as "that Scientific Method guy" than to search for a history of the Method and mention someone almost no one would recognize.
    Francis Bacon is most popular in UK and the rest of the Anglosphere, but for other European countries, Galileo Galilei is the first true scientist. Francis Bacon focused on the gathering and analysis of information, but Galileo Galilei took the next step, testing his hypothesis through well-measured experimentation and publishing the process so anybody could try to repeat them.

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    When I was pretty little, I used to think that witches were non-human magical creatures like fairies, ghosts, and vampires. Probably because they kind of got portrayed that way in some kid-friendly media and that's the general impression I got from stereotypical Halloween decorations and the like.

    I even wrote a crayon-based picture story about a lonely Witch, Vampire, and a Ghost coming together as friends because each had the requisite skill/items to solve the other's dilemma - the Vampire gave the Ghost her enchanted mantle and gloves so she could touch things as a gesture of kindness. the Ghost could then find and bring the Witch's wand after it had been taken by an unruly crow to make its nest, and finally the Witch magically grew a field of giant tomatoes for the Vampire to sate her hunger, and everyone lived happily ever after in a big scarecrow of their design amid the tomato fields.
    Both in folklore (Black Annis, Baba Yaga...) and in modern pop culture (Bewitched, Sabrina the Teenage Witch, Charmed...) witches are often a species on their own right, or at least a special lineage with innate powers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clistenes View Post
    Francis Bacon is most popular in UK and the rest of the Anglosphere, but for other European countries, Galileo Galilei is the first true scientist. Francis Bacon focused on the gathering and analysis of information, but Galileo Galilei took the next step, testing his hypothesis through well-measured experimentation and publishing the process so anybody could try to repeat them.
    Yeah, but when someone mentions Galileo, I'm pretty sure most people would think "Excommunicated for saying the Earth goes around the Sun" and "Gallileo Figaro, magnifico!" before "The guy who added the experimental step to the scientific method". My point in the quoted post was that Bacon's name is associated with the scientific method itself in a way that most scientists' aren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWyrmGold View Post
    Yeah, but when someone mentions Galileo, I'm pretty sure most people would think "Excommunicated for saying the Earth goes around the Sun" and "Gallileo Figaro, magnifico!" before "The guy who added the experimental step to the scientific method". My point in the quoted post was that Bacon's name is associated with the scientific method itself in a way that most scientists' aren't.
    I dunno... his experiments on gravity trowing stuff from the top of a tower are quite famous too...

    And in many countries Francis Bacon is barely studied in schools... Heck, many people I know get Roger and Francis Bacon mixed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clistenes View Post
    The Aing-Tii monks put it like this: "The Aing-Tii have a different view of the Force. Not in terms of Jedi or Dark Jedi—of black and white, as it were—but in a way I like to think of as a full-color rainbow."
    So the Jedi aren't actually channeling the light side- they're actually channeling the neutral side? The lawful side?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatWyrmGold View Post
    Yeah, but when someone mentions Galileo, I'm pretty sure most people would think "Excommunicated for saying the Earth goes around the Sun" and "Gallileo Figaro, magnifico!" before "The guy who added the experimental step to the scientific method". My point in the quoted post was that Bacon's name is associated with the scientific method itself in a way that most scientists' aren't.
    Galileo is the guy who got thrown in jail for writing a book describing a clear allegory for the Pope who had previously defended him against the inquisition as “Simplicitus”. He also was wrong about his model because he described circular orbits, which the earth-centric people rightly showed was wrong. The fact that the orbits were elliptical just makes Galileo less wrong than the earth-centric believers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauly View Post
    Galileo is the guy who got thrown in jail for writing a book describing a clear allegory for the Pope who had previously defended him against the inquisition as “Simplicitus”. He also was wrong about his model because he described circular orbits, which the earth-centric people rightly showed was wrong. The fact that the orbits were elliptical just makes Galileo less wrong than the earth-centric believers.
    Less wrong is about as good as you can hope to get with a model, and the difference between circular heliocentric orbits and elliptical heliocentric orbits is roughly comparable to the difference between a spherical planet and oblate spheroid planet (especially given that most of them are just barely elliptical, especially given that more dramatic orbits hadn't been found) - sure, the spherical planet is incorrect, but it's a whole lot closer than a flat earth is.
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