Problems created by the Vancian System

[kyoryu]

Some randomness is necessary to avoid predetermined or fiat-based outcomes of task resolutions.

Amber Diceless manages to avoid randomization. Mostly by assuming that a given outcome is certain if all things are equal - gameplay, at that point, revolves around making those things *not* equal.

There is a fair amount of fiat involved, however.

[Max_Killjoy]

Amber Diceless manages to avoid randomization. Mostly by assuming that a given outcome is certain if all things are equal - gameplay, at that point, revolves around making those things *not* equal.

There is a fair amount of fiat involved, however.

At least a fair amount.

Amber Diceless seems to fit the setting and tone of the Amber series, with its "Xanatos Speed Chess Gambit pileups", but for many other settings... not so much.

[Tiktakkat]

END and STUN come back fast, and very much only matter to the current combat/encounter, so they're not resource-management even as I've seen the term applied to D&D's hit points, spell slots, etc -- that is, once the encounter is over, they can be counted on to go back to full, rather than needing any sort of rest or reset.

BODY comes back slow without Powers-based healing or recovery, and if handled correctly models injuries that the character is trying to avoid, not a resource to be spent and recovered.

I never saw anyone worry about running out of BODY.
I regularly saw everyone worry about running out of END and STUN.

If hit points qualify as "resource management", then STUN certainly does as well.
Even more for END and spell slots.

If everything from character points at creation, to END in combat, is "resource management", then IMO it's a very diluted term as being applied here.

If hit points are "resource management", and picking the right spell for the circumstance, then assigning skill points and even character points certainly qualify with no further dilution of the term beyond what has already been assigned.

[SethoMarkus]

Not trying to be contentious, but a great "game" that lacks resource management but includes narrative and challenges (such as they are), is basic free form role-playing. I know it isn't really what is being discussed, but it seems to solve many of the issues with managing limited resources as well as solving issues with a lack of foreknowledge of what challenges to expect...