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    The servant hurries along to find the exact course of treatment to administer.

    Either way it looks like an injection.

    "He should be alright now. How did you know?" Katsurou asks of Suguri.
    Suguri shrugged. "I smelled it," she said. "Nothing special."
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    "...you smelled it?" Katsurou asks for confirmation. "...and you realize this is something not every human can do?"
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    I met a girl with a really pensive look. I walk up to her, put a fifty cent coin in her hand, "For your thoughts. I know the going rate is supposed to be one, but I figure you play hardball."

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    Jehoel bats the Cero aside. It detonates rather impressively in the air, but there's little actual substance to the explosion.

    "It is, I'm afraid, an entirely valid comparison. Do you know what Las Noches does with Hollows we capture that haven't yet regained their minds? We simply imprison them. No education. No discussion. They're kept restrained in Sekkiseki-reinforced cells and fed using the foods that we have cultivated. It takes, on average, three weeks to break the mental connection between killing and staving off hunger. They're still Hollows, unequivocally, but the compulsive desire to kill is broken. From there, we educate them and channel lingering blood-lust into more productive areas. The process is actually far simpler than I would have expected."

    Jehoel lands far away from Koutarou, the execution scaffold visible some ways in the distance.

    "Do you know why I took us here? Other than the fact that it's open and empty."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroimaken View Post
    "...you smelled it?" Katsurou asks for confirmation. "...and you realize this is something not every human can do?"
    Suguri nodded. "That's cause I'm a doggy!" she said, her tail wagging.
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    Jehoel bats the Cero aside. It detonates rather impressively in the air, but there's little actual substance to the explosion.

    "It is, I'm afraid, an entirely valid comparison. Do you know what Las Noches does with Hollows we capture that haven't yet regained their minds? We simply imprison them. No education. No discussion. They're kept restrained in Sekkiseki-reinforced cells and fed using the foods that we have cultivated. It takes, on average, three weeks to break the mental connection between killing and staving off hunger. They're still Hollows, unequivocally, but the compulsive desire to kill is broken. From there, we educate them and channel lingering blood-lust into more productive areas. The process is actually far simpler than I would have expected."

    Jehoel lands far away from Koutarou, the execution scaffold visible some ways in the distance.

    "Do you know why I took us here? Other than the fact that it's open and empty."
    "I am aware that my stance may seem entirely contradictory to you. Unfortunately, for now, it is what it is. I cannot cast aside entirely what makes us Shinigami, and a part of that is, in fact, the need to purify Hollows.

    Those you imprison and change. Do you believe they would have done so of their own volition? How long would it have taken? What of the ones that have changed into Arrancar and still chose a path of violence and destruction?

    The symbolism of this place is obvious. It is a place where an existence ceases to be - permanently. It is also our most drastic form of execution, to ensure someone's influence never enters the Cycle again. There is a great deal of difference between a Zanpakutou and the Soukyoku."


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    I met a girl with a really pensive look. I walk up to her, put a fifty cent coin in her hand, "For your thoughts. I know the going rate is supposed to be one, but I figure you play hardball."

    She gave it back, "Keep it. Pretty sure a guy with your charm can find a way to have them for free anyway."

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    Jehoel doesn't move. Looks like he's still waiting for Koutarou's next attack.

    "Perhaps they would change. Perhaps not. Hollows who willingly reject violence and travel more peaceful paths are rare, but not unheard of. And I'm afraid that unless you choose to execute every violent criminal in the Soul Society, your comparison rings hollow. We give them the ability to make that choice, yes, but we cannot control their minds. Las Noches simply grants the same fundamental right to exist that is given by default to humans and spirits."

    Jehoel waits for Koutarou's next attack, then blurs back even farther, ending up next to the Sōkyoku itself. He looks up at it, seemingly completely dropping his guard against Koutarou.

    "Would it surprise you to learn that I, too, have a moral code? You almost certainly wouldn't see my own restrictions as moral, but they are no less important to me for it. One such principle is this: I see every existence as precious and irreplaceable. There is more to a person, to a life, than just the soul that exists at its core. Even those sufficiently awoken as to remember their previous lives cannot entirely return to those previous existences. How can they, when we change so much over the course of just one life? But I digress."

    He looks back at Koutarou.

    "You can argue that a base Hollow is simply a twisted human soul, in pain, but the same simply is not true for Menos. In many cases, exiting the Gillian phase fuses the mass of souls forming the Arrancar together into a single, new identity. Even when an individual consciousness does take the forefront, it is far different from even how it was as a Hollow. The process of becoming a Menos fundamentally alters the soul. Purification erases that, reverting a new soul to a completely blank slate and purging every trace of existence as a Hollow from souls that remain separate. For a Menos, and for many older Hollows, the difference you describe between the Sōkyoku and the Zanpakuto is academic. Both represent a total annihilation of all that we are. To say otherwise is to even even the possibility that our existences can hold meaning or value, a point which I do hope you have passed by now."
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    "No. It would not surprise me."

    Jehoel isn't the only one who can zip up behind people. Of course, the afterimages cast by Kamen Rider Rei are not at all like his own motions. And Jehoel certainly never tried to attack someone from three different spots at once. It feels a lot more like he's engaging multiple opponents at this point.

    "The issue, however, lies in the fact that what you ask for is to let Shinigami as they are disappear entirely and trust you to take on the task of maintaining balance in the Cycle. For an unique and meaningful existence to disappear is no less tragic if done by blade or fang.

    Not every Plus in Soul Society is the product of Konsou. And the vast majority of them is equally powerless before a Hollow. This could even be said of many Shinigami. Even if we took to Hollow-hunting strictly to defend ourselves, the lives we DID lose would be on our hands for lacking proactivity."
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    I met a girl with a really pensive look. I walk up to her, put a fifty cent coin in her hand, "For your thoughts. I know the going rate is supposed to be one, but I figure you play hardball."

    She gave it back, "Keep it. Pretty sure a guy with your charm can find a way to have them for free anyway."

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    "You realize, of course, that the terms of our treaty explicitly forbid active Hollow hunting from the Shinigami unless previously agreed upon. The number of self defense incidents, naturally, are far higher than could have been anticipated...but it wouldn't do to have the gods of death grow fat and lazy. The ones without the motivation to place themselves in harm's way are unlikely to amount to much regardless."

    Jehoel is doing a remarkably good job of keeping up with Koutarou. Blows are redirected or dodged entirely to avoid taking the direct impact of the pile bunkers. There's no wasted movement.

    "You seem to be making assumptions. What, exactly, do you think I'm asking of you?"
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    What might prove a little more surprising is that Koutarou can keep increasing the rhythm without his breath running short.

    He's also trying out new angles, shooting kicks and punches from sides he shouldn't be able to given his position.

    "You don't want us to purify Hollows, especially the wild ones you might be able to rehabilitate. Just as we can't grow fat and lazy, we cannot allow the population of Hollows to explode so you can get a shot at making them productive members of your society.

    This is especially troublesome given the recent assault on Las Noches and the toll it's taken on your side. I doubt you came out unscathed.

    I have yet to thank you for tackling the Quincies, by the way.

    But my point remains. We can't not purify Hollows. So where does that leave us?"
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    I met a girl with a really pensive look. I walk up to her, put a fifty cent coin in her hand, "For your thoughts. I know the going rate is supposed to be one, but I figure you play hardball."

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    "Dear, believe me. As close as you might be to it, you are no dog. And you would do well to be thankful for it."
    "Then how did I smell the cub was sick?" Suguri pointed out, flopping her canine ears.
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    "With your nose. Which while admirable, is no proof of being a dog.

    I know a lot of people who can do really amazing things. They aren't animals, though."
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    I met a girl with a really pensive look. I walk up to her, put a fifty cent coin in her hand, "For your thoughts. I know the going rate is supposed to be one, but I figure you play hardball."

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    "Wrong again. To answer your question, I would say focus on purifying Jibakurei, since that is supposedly what you agreed to when you first signed the treaty. If you've been illegally and deliberately subverting that on a large scale, now would be an excellent time to restart the war over your grievous breach of contract."

    In a fight made of almost instantaneous blows, Jehoel suddenly drops his guard and returns his hands to his pockets. Koutarou has just enough time to pull back or, alternatively, just take the advantage.

    "Do you know what separates conviction and stubbornness, Koutarou? What marks the line between virtue and fault?"

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    Can you explain "kicking and punching from angles he shouldn't be able to" in more detail? I have no ability to visualize based on that description.
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    Turiel "hm'ed" thoughtfully for a moment.

    "Hopefully you do. Now, if you two choose to take her in for study of this bond beyond what you may discover yourselves, make it clear to whoever aids you she is not to be harmed. But ensure she is not...over-reactive if they forget themselves. If she kills an Arrancar who was not literally attacking her that very moment, who had overwhelmed you and her other escorts, she will be lucky to only lose freedom. Make that abundantly clear to her."

    Turiel is now standing and walking out the door, the dismissal being quite clear.

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    Turiel just watches her for a few moments.

    "Don't make yourself regret this decision."

    Wait that's not how that saying goes-

    "Numeros Svetlana and the rest of your escort will be here shortly. Until then, remain here."

    Turiel gets up and leaves briskly, not giving her much of a chance to respond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorizzit View Post
    "Wrong again. To answer your question, I would say focus on purifying Jibakurei, since that is supposedly what you agreed to when you first signed the treaty. If you've been illegally and deliberately subverting that on a large scale, now would be an excellent time to restart the war over your grievous breach of contract."

    In a fight made of almost instantaneous blows, Jehoel suddenly drops his guard and returns his hands to his pockets. Koutarou has just enough time to pull back or, alternatively, just take the advantage.

    "Do you know what separates conviction and stubbornness, Koutarou? What marks the line between virtue and fault?"

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    He'd rather pull back. An opponent with a guard you didn't lower yourself is just plotting something.

    "We've been busy rebuilding Soul Society and responding to the continuous threat of the Cult of the Trifold Eye. Any Hollows purified in the course of reconaissance against them were strictly in self-defense or in the aid of mortals under attack - two exceptions we strictly defined when we first signed this treaty.

    The Cult has provided a sizable enough threat that we've been able to make things work out so far. But as leaders of our respective factions, perhaps it is time we defined what will happen once the Cult is gone."


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    Basically, Kamen Rider Rei is using his afterimages and the thunderclones to appear as though he is in more than one place at once. This would normally be readily apparent, since the thunderclones can't imitate his appearance - he can take on theirs, but he's not doing that right now.
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    I met a girl with a really pensive look. I walk up to her, put a fifty cent coin in her hand, "For your thoughts. I know the going rate is supposed to be one, but I figure you play hardball."

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    "With your nose. Which while admirable, is no proof of being a dog.

    I know a lot of people who can do really amazing things. They aren't animals, though."
    Suguri wanted to argue the point, but she wisely decided not to. What was wrong with being a dog, anyway?
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    Mostly? Dogs don't usually grow up to be more than great members of the family.

    "Want to go see the pony now, or would you like to play with the cubs some more?"
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    I met a girl with a really pensive look. I walk up to her, put a fifty cent coin in her hand, "For your thoughts. I know the going rate is supposed to be one, but I figure you play hardball."

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    Suguri glanced back at the sick tiger cub.

    "Okay...." she said. "Will he be okay?"
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    "Yes, he will. We'll just keep him under observation for a little while. But he should be up and about playing with his siblings in little time." Katsurou assured her.
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    I met a girl with a really pensive look. I walk up to her, put a fifty cent coin in her hand, "For your thoughts. I know the going rate is supposed to be one, but I figure you play hardball."

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    Suguri nodded. "Then yes."
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    Jehoel doesn't move from that position, simply watching Koutarou.

    "You know that I do not make decisions for Las Noches. I have been a leader among the Espada, but that does not give me the right to renegotiate for all of Las Noches. Assuming, of course, that there is any reason for me to desire that in the first place. And you still haven't answered my question."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorizzit View Post
    Jehoel doesn't move from that position, simply watching Koutarou.

    "You know that I do not make decisions for Las Noches. I have been a leader among the Espada, but that does not give me the right to renegotiate for all of Las Noches. Assuming, of course, that there is any reason for me to desire that in the first place. And you still haven't answered my question."
    "It is, however, something worthy of consideration. To bring for discussion to your fellow Espada.

    I would consider it a personal favor given my latest interaction with the Royal Guard.

    As for what separates stubborness and conviction, I would imagine it is whether the goal can be reached."


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    "Ah. It would seem someone wants to thank you, too."

    Before Suguri realizes, the tiger mother has snuck up to her and nuzzled against her cheek before turning to lick with its rough tongue.

    "Tell me, Suguri. What do you intend to do from now on?"
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    Suguri giggled and pet the tiger mother, but then grew a bit despondent when Katsurou asked her a question.

    "....I don't know," she said, glancing up at Setsurou. He was the first one she'd met here, so he's the first one she naturally deferred to. "I've never been dead before. Am ... am I going to stay here forever?"
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    Setsurou knelt besides the girl and offered a gentle smile.

    "No one remains dead forever, Suguri-chan. This is... more like a "second" life. Once your time here is spent, you enter the cycle of reincarnation, and you are born again.

    As a child, you probably don't know what to do with your life at this point. But if you'd like, we can try to teach you which paths you have available to you."
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    Suguri stared at Setsurou, not understanding what he was saying. Those were a lot of big words, and she was just a little girl after all. But she did understand one thing.

    "....Does that mean I'll stay with you?" she asked.
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    "If you want to stay with us, you're more than welcome to."
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    Suguri nodded, rushing in for a hug.

    "Yes please," she said. After a moment of hugging, she then asked a question that would probably come as a surprise, but not so much when one considers that she no longer had parents to call her own.

    "Can ... can I call you Daddy?" she asked.
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    "I see. The issue will be raised."

    Jehoel folds his arms.

    "A fine answer. Not the one I was looking for, but I won't castigate you for it. The definition I was using is the ability to acknowledge other beliefs, and other perspectives, as valid. An individual with conviction can see those who disagree with them take into account the reasons, and still maintain their own beliefs despite these conflicts. An individual that is stubborn rejects all possibility that they could be wrong because, in truth, their beliefs are fragile. Clung to because the individual in question requires them in order to function. Because the understanding that their actions might not be absolutely correct could destroy them."

    Jehoel looks over the cliff face, out into the Seireitei.

    "Of course, pure representations of the two extremes are rare. It's far more common to contain a mixture of both traits. You can, I'm sure, figure out why I'm describing this distinction."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkflight View Post
    Suguri nodded, rushing in for a hug.

    "Yes please," she said. After a moment of hugging, she then asked a question that would probably come as a surprise, but not so much when one considers that she no longer had parents to call her own.

    "Can ... can I call you Daddy?" she asked.
    The hug, Setsurou was ready for. The question, not so much.

    He hesitated. This wasn't a responsibility he was ready to take on - not at this moment. But how could he explain that to a child?

    He returned the embrace, gently stroking her hair.

    "You... can. But you really shouldn't. I mean, we just met, Suguri-chan. A father is someone you love and trust to protect you and teach you.

    I... don't lead a very safe life. I could die at any moment. And I don't want you to be sad if that happens..."


    Katsurou smacked his grandson atop the head.

    "You realize she is much too young to know the difference?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorizzit View Post
    "I see. The issue will be raised."

    Jehoel folds his arms.

    "A fine answer. Not the one I was looking for, but I won't castigate you for it. The definition I was using is the ability to acknowledge other beliefs, and other perspectives, as valid. An individual with conviction can see those who disagree with them take into account the reasons, and still maintain their own beliefs despite these conflicts. An individual that is stubborn rejects all possibility that they could be wrong because, in truth, their beliefs are fragile. Clung to because the individual in question requires them in order to function. Because the understanding that their actions might not be absolutely correct could destroy them."

    Jehoel looks over the cliff face, out into the Seireitei.

    "Of course, pure representations of the two extremes are rare. It's far more common to contain a mixture of both traits. You can, I'm sure, figure out why I'm describing this distinction."
    "We were both discussing separate viewpoints on the same issue just now, so it's not that difficult to link the subjects. Much discussion will still be needed if we are to reach a consensus...

    Though an idea has just occurred to me that might be of use to us both."
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    She gave it back, "Keep it. Pretty sure a guy with your charm can find a way to have them for free anyway."

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    "By all means, enlighten me. I can save my final notes until you finish."
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    "Mixed hunting teams.

    Hollows are not equipped for capture. They're predators. Save for those whom develop certain natural weaponry, they're typically more suited to killing their targets.

    Shinigami, on the other hand, have several tools for slowing down and capturing the enemy. Bakudou can be a very versatile skill that way. And in the event the team finds a Hollow they cannot capture, they can work together to put it down. I would hope that, given time, this would help develop a partnership and cooperation system. At least from my end, we would need to make it voluntary, in order to prevent impact to morale.

    Your thoughts?"
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    She gave it back, "Keep it. Pretty sure a guy with your charm can find a way to have them for free anyway."

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