New OOTS products from CafePress
New OOTS t-shirts, ornaments, mugs, bags, and more
Results 1 to 5 of 5
  1. - Top - End - #1
    Orc in the Playground
     
    OldWizardGuy

    Join Date
    Mar 2008

    Question How often should the "Family Ties" Drawback be invoked?

    I'm making a character for an upcoming Pathfinder game, and I was looking into the "Family Ties" drawback. Compared to other drawbacks, it's hard for me to tell how frequently the drawback's situation will come up. Is it a rare thing? Whenever the DM wants to use it to send me on a quest? Constant errands?

    Is there any general consensus on its use? If it's used extremely frequently, it would become a burden to deal with while also going out on normal adventures.

    Thanks.

  2. - Top - End - #2
    Pixie in the Playground
     
    Snow-blind's Avatar

    Join Date
    Sep 2016

    Default Re: How often should the "Family Ties" Drawback be invoked?

    Quote Originally Posted by theonesin View Post
    I'm making a character for an upcoming Pathfinder game, and I was looking into the "Family Ties" drawback. Compared to other drawbacks, it's hard for me to tell how frequently the drawback's situation will come up. Is it a rare thing? Whenever the DM wants to use it to send me on a quest? Constant errands?
    It will come up whenever a family member makes a request, which is as often as the GM feels like. It is a very RP dependent drawback.
    Quote Originally Posted by theonesin View Post
    Is there any general consensus on its use? If it's used extremely frequently, it would become a burden to deal with while also going out on normal adventures.
    You probably aren't going to find an existing consensus because it is an uncommonly taken drawback. However, it isn't really that burdening for many characters - outside of social skills and perception, the drawback does very little. So long as you aren't the party's perception or social specialist, you aren't likely to suffer much.

  3. - Top - End - #3
    Troll in the Playground
     
    SangoProduction's Avatar

    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: How often should the "Family Ties" Drawback be invoked?

    answer: Whenever it makes for convenient roleplay, or adventure hooks. But I personally wouldn't allow that as a drawback, as I don't really care who my quest givers are, and I don't want my players hating the quest givers because they are a "drawback". Afterall, I actually want them to be involved.

    So you can just have them show up at embarrassing moments. "Maaaaam. Why are you shopping at the magic store?" "Oh, to see how you've grown up to be such a big-strong man."

  4. - Top - End - #4
    Ettin in the Playground
     
    GreenSorcererElf

    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Oregon
    Gender
    Male

    Default Re: How often should the "Family Ties" Drawback be invoked?

    Dunno if/where I may or may not have read it, but 1/adventure seems like a reasonable starting point, with a limit of 1/level if you're doing shorter adventures. Anything less and the "drawback" just isn't coming up enough to seem like more than something that happened once a long time ago. On the reverse, levels can come up pretty quickly and running into the same problem over and over before the standard checkpoint of a level up is gonna be annoying.
    Fizban's Tweaks and Brew: Google Drive (PDF), Thread
    A collection of over 200 pages of individually small bans, tweaks, brews, and rule changes, usable piecemeal or nearly altogether, and even some convenient lists. Everything I've done that I'd call done enough to use in one place (plus a number of things I'm working on that aren't quite done, of course).
    Quote Originally Posted by Violet Octopus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fizban View Post
    sheer awesomeness

  5. - Top - End - #5
    Ettin in the Playground
    Join Date
    Aug 2014

    Default Re: How often should the "Family Ties" Drawback be invoked?

    Quote Originally Posted by SangoProduction View Post
    So you can just have them show up at embarrassing moments. "Maaaaam. Why are you shopping at the magic store?" "Oh, to see how you've grown up to be such a big-strong man."
    This is the best direction to take with it, IMO. Traits and drawbacks should provide for interesting roleplaying opportunities, but the requests shouldn't be so large as to constitute entire quests.
    Please use they/them/theirs when referring to me in the third person.
    My Homebrew (PF, 3.5)
    Awesome Bone Knight avatar by Chd.
    Spoiler: Current Characters
    Show
    Cassidy Halloran, Human Scout
    William Gamache, Human Relic Channeler Medium
    Spoiler: Quotes
    Show
    Quote Originally Posted by AGrinningCat View Post
    Lay on hands? More like Lay your Eyes on this sick elbow drop!

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •