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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryopyre View Post
    Here's one, what if you have an idea for a die, where do you take it.

    By this I mean a new shape.
    New shape would be very tough as there are no blanks for them ... I am working on getting blanks made in a 3d Printer (Rapid Prototyper) ... but I have to find someone willing to work with me .. as I have developed many new shapes of dice

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    Have you ever had a troublesome gamer whom you have forced to undergo the "Walk of a Thousand Four Siders"?
    No but is a good idea ... I will have to consider it for a gamer I know that regularly 'fudges' dice rolls

    I think that is even better than threatening with the large metal d20's
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    Does guinness count the dice you made out of what appears to be paper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tack122 View Post
    Does guinness count the dice you made out of what appears to be paper?
    Yes ... I count them for Guinness and have it witnessed ... They do roll close to true ... and are not really that hard to make

    Time for bed ... g'nite all
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    Can I use your site as a reference to prove to my parents that I do not have a dice collecting problem? They think over 100 are too many. Pff.
    If there's a rule, there's someone out there trying to figure out how to get around it just to piss off his DM.

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    How many total sides do you have,
    e.g. if I had a 2d10, 1d20 and a d4, I would have 44 sides.

    how long would it take to calculate the above?

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    ^ Dear god man, you don't have to pose some math problem on him ^

    Exam question: I have a collection of d6s, d4s, and d20s. The total amount of dice I have is 37, the total amount of sides is 462, how many of each die do I own?


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    Quote Originally Posted by JackMage666 View Post
    Can I use your site as a reference to prove to my parents that I do not have a dice collecting problem? They think over 100 are too many. Pff.
    LOL ... Fine by me :)

    I am going to stop counting the new questions from this thread ... as is seems everyone has a new one !

    Quote Originally Posted by Last_resort_33 View Post
    How many total sides do you have,
    e.g. if I had a 2d10, 1d20 and a d4, I would have 44 sides.
    Yet still another new question ... you people/creatures are great !

    Hmm ... never tired it :)

    how long would it take to calculate the above?
    It should not take long ... all that has to be done is multiply the # of sides times the number of dice of that number of sides then sum the totals of all the different sided dice

    If anyone cares to use a bit outdated data ... feel free to use THIS page do it


    Quote Originally Posted by Cryopyre View Post
    ^ Dear god man, you don't have to pose some math problem on him ^

    Exam question: I have a collection of d6s, d4s, and d20s. The total amount of dice I have is 37, the total amount of sides is 462, how many of each die do I own?
    Been too many years since graduation (20 to be exact) ... I think my math minor got lost in the mists of time :)

    6x + 4y + 20z = 462
    x + y + z = 37

    Solve for x

    x = 37 - y - z

    Reinsert

    6(36 - y - z) + 4y + 20z = 462

    216 - 6y - 6z + 4y + 20z = 462

    -4y + 14z = 246

    -2y + 7z = 123

    -2y = 123 - 7z

    y = -(123 - 7z)/2

    Reinsert

    x = 37 + (123 - 7z)/2 - z

    I think we need a 3rd equation
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    19 20 siders, 5 6 siders, 13 4 siders. (380+30+52)
    Or, 18 20 siders, 13 6 siders, 6 4 siders. (360+78+24)
    Or,

    Illegal problem. Too few equations. Particularly given that we have 2 equations, 3 variables, the fact that multiple answers rise is problematic.

    Don't ask how I got that.

    Let's see if I can explain. Ok, so

    x+y+z = 37.
    4x+6y+20z= 462.
    2y+16z = 314 (-4(x+y+z) = -148)
    y+8z = 157.
    8z = 157 -y

    Number of 6 sided dice must therefore be 5, 13, 21, etc. 21 doesn't work, as 136 > 16*8 (128). 13 and 5 do, as 24*8 > 152.

    It's not a proof, but I haven't taken nough math (yet) to know how to properly solve this.
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    What is the rate of growth of your collection? Has the rate accelerated over the years, or is it slowing down now that you're reaching the limit of how many dice can possibly be collected?

    Related question: What percentage of the maximum possible number of unique dice that could be collected do you think you own?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skizac View Post
    What is the rate of growth of your collection? Has the rate accelerated over the years, or is it slowing down now that you're reaching the limit of how many dice can possibly be collected?
    I have a PAGE for that as well ... with all the new dice being released ... I dont see a slowdown

    Related question: What percentage of the maximum possible number of unique dice that could be collected do you think you own?
    At a guess ... 50-60%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbitrarity View Post
    19 20 siders, 5 6 siders, 13 4 siders. (380+30+52)
    Or, 18 20 siders, 13 6 siders, 6 4 siders. (360+78+24)
    Or,

    Illegal problem. Too few equations. Particularly given that we have 2 equations, 3 variables, the fact that multiple answers rise is problematic.

    Don't ask how I got that.

    Let's see if I can explain. Ok, so

    x+y+z = 37.
    4x+6y+20z= 462.
    2y+16z = 314 (-4(x+y+z) = -148)
    y+8z = 157.
    8z = 157 -y

    Number of 6 sided dice must therefore be 5, 13, 21, etc. 21 doesn't work, as 136 > 16*8 (128). 13 and 5 do, as 24*8 > 152.

    It's not a proof, but I haven't taken nough math (yet) to know how to properly solve this.
    I just put it in there as a joke, didn't test for multiple answers, didn't even think that people would bother answering.


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    Do you have a mathematics background?

    Does your geometry kick extend beyond dice (to products like zome, or studies of polytopes or configurations)?

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    When God does play dice with the universe, does he stop by to borrow some from you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yechezkiel View Post
    When God does play dice with the universe, does he stop by to borrow some from you?
    lmao, that is hilarious


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    Quote Originally Posted by LotharBot View Post
    Do you have a mathematics background?
    Yes ... I have a Bachelors in Computer Science and minor in mathmatics

    Does your geometry kick extend beyond dice (to products like zome, or studies of polytopes or configurations)?
    Other than for recreation ... no ... I have a LOT of Magnetix pieces that I build things with while I watch movies

    Quote Originally Posted by Yechezkiel View Post
    When God does play dice with the universe, does he stop by to borrow some from you?
    No ... but I suspect he just takes them and makes me forget that I ever owned them :)

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    Hmmn. I have First Quest, Dragon Quest and Dragon Strike, with the original dice. I noticed that the sets are very similar, but not exactly the same. Do you know why?

    I noticed recently that a 1D10 I had been using from Dark World is a deeper red than the conventional 1D10 of the same proportions. Any ideas why?

    Do you have the 1D8 from The Key to the Kingdom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_Cook View Post
    It should not take long ... all that has to be done is multiply the # of sides times the number of dice of that number of sides then sum the totals of all the different sided dice

    If anyone cares to use a bit outdated data ... feel free to use THIS page do it
    164670 total sides.

    Why is it, on your main page, the letter dice that spell out "Kevin Cook's Dice" link to a zip file?

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    Do you have any experience with blank dice? I'm thinking of getting some blank d20s to mark up on my own; do you know of any good companies for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryopyre View Post
    ^ Dear god man, you don't have to pose some math problem on him ^

    Exam question: I have a collection of d6s, d4s, and d20s. The total amount of dice I have is 37, the total amount of sides is 462, how many of each die do I own?
    Using back of envelope method.

    Dice substitution Eqn.
    X, Y, Z = # of 4, 6, 20 siders

    4X + 20Z = 6Y,
    X + Z = Y,
    X,Y,Z integers, >= 0

    has unique (up to multiples) soln. (X=7,Y=8,Z=1)

    ie (A) 1(d20) - 8(d6) + 7 (d4) = 0

    So 1(d20) and 7(d4) is equivalent to 8(d8)

    ------------
    Main Eqn.s
    U, V, W = # of 4, 6, 20 siders
    (B) U,V,W (integers) >=0

    (C): 4U + 6V + 20W = 462;

    soln.(1): (W=22, V=3, U=1)

    (D): T(:=U+V+W) = 37

    T1 = 26

    Using (2) 1(d20) eqv to 5(d4), dT2=4
    and (3) 2(d6) eqv to 3(d4), dT3=1

    soln.(4) = soln.(1) + 3(2) - 1(3), T4 = T1 + 3(dT2) - 1(dT3) = 37

    So soln.(4) (W=19, V=5, U=13), satisfies (B),(C),&(D)

    Combining with (A) gives additional soln.:
    soln.(4) + (A) = (W=18, V=13, U=6)
    All other combination of soln.(4) and (A) do not satisfy (B)

    Therefore you have either (13 d4s, 5 d6s, and 19 d20s) or (6 d4s, 13 d6s, and 18 d20s)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    Hmmn. I have First Quest, Dragon Quest and Dragon Strike, with the original dice. I noticed that the sets are very similar, but not exactly the same. Do you know why?

    I noticed recently that a 1D10 I had been using from Dark World is a deeper red than the conventional 1D10 of the same proportions. Any ideas why?
    I cannot be certain as those modules/boxes/games were released about 16-18 years after I started gaming and as such ... I overlooked them ... so I am not sure which dice accompanied them

    Assuming that they were what were later called Dragon Dice ... I can say they were made by differing manufacturers which could account for the differences


    WHICH REMINDS ME ... that is another thing I am looking for ... the Original Dragon Dice Polyhedrals and AD&D Adventure Gaming Dice Set in their original blister packs ... released in the early 90's

    Do you have the 1D8 from The Key to the Kingdom?
    Based on This Picture it seems to just be a common d8 ... Am I incorrect?

    Quote Originally Posted by lotofsnow View Post
    164670 total sides.

    Why is it, on your main page, the letter dice that spell out "Kevin Cook's Dice" link to a zip file?
    That is the secure database for Guinness to download for verification purposes ... along with publications about the collection as well as witnesses ... that is what makes a Guinness claim

    Quote Originally Posted by adanedhel9 View Post
    Do you have any experience with blank dice? I'm thinking of getting some blank d20s to mark up on my own; do you know of any good companies for this?
    Yes ... Chessex is your best source at this time ... If you provide them with the graphics ... they will even custom laser engrave them for you! ... CUSTOM@CHESSEX.COM



    I have received a couple of direct emails / PM's from readers of this thread asking either to trade MTG (Magic the Gathering) spindowns or asking what spindowns I am looking for ...

    At present ... this is what I am trading for / in need of

    RED ONSLAUGHT
    WHITE ONSLAUGHT

    RED JUDGEMENT
    BLACK JUDGEMENT

    BLACK TORMENT
    GREEN/BLUE TORMENT

    RED ODYSSEY

    RED APOCALYPSE
    BLACK APOCALYPSE

    Which brings up a question that you may be able to help me with ...

    At Origins ... I was told by a MTG vendor that I am missing 2 entire series of spindowns from my collection of spindowns ... Can anyone confirm this ... I know the series' that they say are missing but wont post them here ... as I would like to see if anyone else can confirm it unprompted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_Cook View Post
    I cannot be certain as those modules/boxes/games were released about 16-18 years after I started gaming and as such ... I overlooked them ... so I am not sure which dice accompanied them

    Assuming that they were what were later called Dragon Dice ... I can say they were made by differing manufacturers which could account for the differences
    Hmmn, I did find some pictures somewhere, but I forget Have to look into it. What about the 'darker Red D10'?

    [Edit]
    Dragon Quest
    Dragon Strike
    First Quest

    What threw me was their close similarity.
    Based on This Picture it seems to just be a common d8 ... Am I incorrect?
    Actually, that was a question for my own benefit, as I couldn't figure out which die belonged to the game. Thanks for finding that picture, now I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    Hmmn, I did find some pictures somewhere, but I forget Have to look into it. What about the 'darker Red D10'?
    Ok .. those are just common Chessex dice ... as Chessex used at least 4 different manufacturers (England, Germany, Denmark, Taiwan) with 4 different molds (yes I know it is ANAL for me to record this infor ... but noone else will ... not even Chessex) ... This could explain the differences

    Notice that THIS SET is also Chessex


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    Right, thanks for answering that. I could never figure out why the Black 1D10 was different, but I think that official Blister Pack answers that, they wer added onto a conventional pack! The Light Blue 1D8 from First Quest must be down to different manufacturers, as you say.

    Any ideas about the Darker Red 1D10 from Dark World?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    Any ideas about the Darker Red 1D10 from Dark World?
    That is a Koplow D10

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    Right, but all the Koplow Red Dice I own (and have seen) are a lighter shade than this 1D10; are there different shades of Red usually available or are they restricted to time period?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew View Post
    Right, but all the Koplow Red Dice I own (and have seen) are a lighter shade than this 1D10; are there different shades of Red usually available or are they restricted to time period?
    I am sure it is just a manufacturing variance ... not every batch of color will ever be exactly the same ...

    Koplow pretty much has 6 basic colors which may vary slightly from batch to batch

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    Quote Originally Posted by AwfulLawful View Post
    Sorry I meant a D30, my bad (it's late here in Denmark, and my brain went to sleep hours ago )
    another use for the d30

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    Did the source of dice questions dry up?

    I will post to this thread on a monthly basis ... a link to my Highlights for the previous month ... that usually generates some questions ... this month will be a big month as I have added 770 new dice already this month ... and there are more on the way

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    Kind of a stupid question, but after seeing your huge stacks of dice I just had to ask:

    Is the threat of a being trapped under a landslide of dice your greatest fear in life?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbitrarity View Post
    D1's can also be Klein Bottles, or Mobius Loops.
    To move from topology to elementary number theory, just as a d3 is a d6 (mod 3), a d1 is a dx (mod 1), where x can be any number of sides you have available.
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