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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_Cook View Post
    Why what?
    Why did you bother collecting 20 000+ dices?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorbash View Post
    Why did you bother collecting 20 000+ dices?
    LOL ... see my last answer above :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_Cook View Post
    I need to take pictures of one disassembled ... so it will be clear


    The outer shell is clear ... and has the extension member facets (faces) ... the inner shell is opaque (usually ) and has the indicia ( numbers) printed on it ... it is held in place by 2 pins that prevent the inner shell from rotating and thus misaligning the numbers
    A picture, I think, would help alot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_Cook View Post
    No ... I have not seen such a thing ... perhaps you should suggest it to Koplow ( the maker of the majority of double dice)

    I just thought of another idea ... a D20 ... with damage dice inside ... so it becomes both hit and damage in one roll
    Yeah, that is actually a pretty good idea. Perhaps with outer dice that are openable so you could put whatever needed die inside? I don't know how that would work while maintaining a proper inner surface for the dmg dice to roll on. Still a good idea though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_Cook View Post
    LOL ... the only difference between a record holder and a non record holder is ... the non record holder knows when to quit ... where as the record holder is too dumb / stubborn ... to do so :)
    Fair enough, I suppose. :P

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    I only just stumbled upon this thread but your collection efforts are really awesome. Keep up the good work and thanks for maintaining your collection and this!
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    Do you think you have enough dice, or are you like the rest of us who still 'Never have enough dice'?

    And when you're gaming, do you have a few sets of duplicate dice to game with, or do you spend hours looking through the collection to find the dice you want to use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_Cook View Post
    LOL ... see my last answer above :)
    Lol, good enough answer I suppose. But how did you come by that idea to collect dices? I've got 30 D6s for my warhammer purposes, 2 sets of D&D dice, and so far I didn't have any sudden urges to start making a hoard out of them, so I'm just trying to understand your reason(s)...

    Second of all, do you get paid for being the record holder? I mean, I guess some of those rare dices you posses are expensive, and having 20 000+ of them can amount to serious amount of money, so what makes you keep collecting them?
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    the MTG Spindowns missing from THIS page are my current quest


    I have the green beatdown d20, PM me if interested

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    I just want to say, Kevin, thanks for posting this and for the inspiration! I'm relatively new at dice collection, having a "mere" 196 dice to my name (It'll hit 200 in a couple weeks when my gaming club holds it's annual convention, we're having custom dice made this year with the club's logo).

    I'll have to show my housemates your site the next time they tell me I have too many dice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KIDS View Post
    I only just stumbled upon this thread but your collection efforts are really awesome. Keep up the good work and thanks for maintaining your collection and this!
    Thanks for the recognition ... I really like this forum as it is so active ... and somehow manages to come up with new dice questions for me ... even after 30+ years of collecting

    Quote Originally Posted by Kantur View Post
    Do you think you have enough dice, or are you like the rest of us who still 'Never have enough dice'?
    I think enough is relative ... I have enough ... I WANT more :)

    And when you're gaming, do you have a few sets of duplicate dice to game with, or do you spend hours looking through the collection to find the dice you want to use?
    When I game ... I use a majority of my original set of dice ... mix of clear Armory 1st ed and Gamescience (no G) dice ... these are not part of the collection

    Quote Originally Posted by Gorbash View Post
    Lol, good enough answer I suppose. But how did you come by that idea to collect dices? I've got 30 D6s for my warhammer purposes, 2 sets of D&D dice, and so far I didn't have any sudden urges to start making a hoard out of them, so I'm just trying to understand your reason(s)...
    A fair question ... HERE is the answer

    Second of all, do you get paid for being the record holder? I mean, I guess some of those rare dices you posses are expensive, and having 20 000+ of them can amount to serious amount of money, so what makes you keep collecting them?
    No ... I dont get paid ... except in satisfaction

    As to why I keep collecting ... I suppose it is the desire to be the best at something ... or it could be OCD :)


    Quote Originally Posted by Brauron View Post
    I just want to say, Kevin, thanks for posting this and for the inspiration!
    Thanks ... is is nice to know that someone looks up to me (for those of you who havent met me at GenCon ... I am only 5 feet 2 inches (157cm for you metric types) tall :)

    I'm relatively new at dice collection, having a "mere" 196 dice to my name (It'll hit 200 in a couple weeks when my gaming club holds it's annual convention, we're having custom dice made this year with the club's logo).
    Cool ... any chance of sending a pair my way?

    I'll have to show my housemates your site the next time they tell me I have too many dice!
    LOL ... I have heard THAT ONE before ... mostly for showing wives :)
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    Another question. I just went and replaced my poly's cuz i seem to have misplaced my old ones. I also picked up a D24 and D30, but i was sad to find that Gamescience doesn't produce any D30's...why not? I don't suppose you know?
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    I don't know whether this has been asked (only read 2 pages of thread, it's late...)

    There are companies that make unique dice, I believe. You send in what you want and they make it (it may only be for differently marked sides on common shapes, but nonetheless) how would this count towards the Guinness records? Only one of each shape? Not at all?

    If a die from something like this became part of a widely packaged and sold game, would it count? ((Specifically, an eight-sided die with a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h on it.))
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    I suppose this is a good place as any..

    I would like a little math craft. A fellow player was trying to discover a method of using a d6 and a d10 to replicate a d30 roll.. as I don't have my d30+- just yet.

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    Plastic is obviously the most common material to make dice from, but what, have you found, is the best? Which is the most balanced? The most durable? The most likely to retain it's balance after years of service? Is there any material you prefer personally? What is the most unusual material you've seen/own/heard about?

    What is the most unusual geometric design for a die you've seen?

    Is there any sided die that doesn't exist that you think would see use if it did?

    Do you have a single, favorite die? Is there a die that is the bane of your existence?

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    Glyphic - sorry, know I'm not the guy you asked, but 'tis not difficult.

    0 on the d10 is considered to be 10 throughout.

    Roll d6:
    On 1-2: result is straight d10 (=1-10)
    On 3-4: result is d10 + 10 (=11-20)
    On 5-6: result is d10 + 20 (=21-30).

    This gives an even distribution of any number from 1 to 30, just as a d30 does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMcDee View Post
    I've googled for an answer to this with no success so I'll try here.

    A system I play works using opposed rolls. Each side rolls a number of dice (D6s) equal to the ability score in question, each of which varies from 1 to 8.

    What I'm trying to get is a grid of results showing the percentage chance of success for each matchup.

    As an extra, if either result doubles the other then it's a critical in their favour. A second chart showing the percentage chance of a critical for each of these matchups would be great.

    Of course, if someone has a link to somewhere that would aid me in calculating these for myself that'd be great too!
    I have a program, made by a friend, which calculates all the possible values rolling a bunch of dice can give you and the probability with which they'll come up.

    I'll upload it in case that helps.

    EDIT: http://download.yousendit.com/9C55943A666E7E4B

    Make sure to go to the command prompt first before running it, otherwise XP will close it the instant it finishes, preventing you from looking at the results
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    What has a better average, 1d3, or 1d4-1?
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    SoD:

    d3: mean (colloquial "average") 2.

    d4: mean 2.5.

    d4-1: mean 1.5

    So one would expect the long-term result of a large number of d3 rolls to exceed the long-term result of a large number of (d4-1) rolls. This is not terribly surprising, as d4-1 can roll 0,1,2,3 with equal probabilities and d3 can roll 1,2,3 with equal probabilities.

    (d5-1 would have the same mean as d3, but more variance.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocturnum View Post
    I just went and replaced my poly's cuz i seem to have misplaced my old ones. I also picked up a D24 and D30, but i was sad to find that Gamescience doesn't produce any D30's...why not? I don't suppose you know?
    That is a very good question ... I can only speculate as to the answer ... My guess is that back when d30's were first made ... only The Armory made them ... and based on Lou Zocchi's (owner of Gamescience) experiences ... he didnt want to infringe on Armorys area ... I am not sure why he didnt start making them after they went out of business ... other than he had a large backstock of them

    Quote Originally Posted by Icewalker View Post
    There are companies that make unique dice, I believe.
    There are MANY companies that make unique dice ... depending on your definition of unique :)

    You send in what you want and they make it (it may only be for differently marked sides on common shapes, but nonetheless) how would this count towards the Guinness records? Only one of each shape? Not at all?
    I count each die ... as a die with an eagle instead the 1 side ... is different from a die with a Megatron for the 6 pip

    There are now several companies that now custom engrave dice

    CLICK HERE and see Custom Dice Manufacturers for a full list


    If a die from something like this became part of a widely packaged and sold game, would it count? ((Specifically, an eight-sided die with a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h on it.))
    Yes ... but would only count as one die .. unless there are other configurations ... ie pip orientation ... or base color etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Glyphic View Post
    I suppose this is a good place as any..

    I would like a little math craft. A fellow player was trying to discover a method of using a d6 and a d10 to replicate a d30 roll.. as I don't have my d30+- just yet.
    Easy

    D6 1-2 = +0 ... 3-4 = +10 ... 5-6 = +20
    combined with
    d10 ... is 1-30

    Sorry if this is already answered ... am answering these in the order in which they were submitted



    Quote Originally Posted by MammonAzrael View Post
    Plastic is obviously the most common material to make dice from, but what, have you found, is the best?
    Plastic

    Which is the most balanced?
    Plastic ... this is why the Casino Gambling industry uses Celluloid Acetate

    The most durable?
    That is debatable ... I would have to say Metal or Stone as we know that plastic degrades over time

    The most likely to retain it's balance after years of service?
    Probably metal

    Is there any material you prefer personally?
    Not really

    What is the most unusual material you've seen/own/heard about?
    Uranium

    What is the most unusual geometric design for a die you've seen?
    I dont consider any to be unusual really ... as I have [url=http://www.dicecollector.com/diceinfo_how_many_shapes.html]seen and designed so many[url] (106 shapes to date)

    Is there any sided die that doesn't exist that you think would see use if it did?
    It all depends on how you define USE

    For example ... I could design a 28 ... 29 and 31 sided dice for those wanting to roll the day of the month ... I just could not say how much use it would see


    Do you have a single, favorite die?
    No ... I have too many favorites

    HERE are some examples


    Is there a die that is the bane of your existence?
    Not really ... 30+ years have taught me to be patient

    Quote Originally Posted by Patashu View Post
    Thanks for the link
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    SoD:

    d3: mean (colloquial "average") 2.

    d4: mean 2.5.

    d4-1: mean 1.5
    That depends. In many contexts where one might encounter 1d4-1, the minimum is assumed to be 1 (that is, if you roll a 1, the result is still 1). In that case, you can get a 1, 1, 2, or 3, for an average of 1.75. Since the worst result is overrepresented, it's still worse, in general, than the d3.
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    But if there are companies that will produce personalized dice by request, and different ones count, can't you just get huge numbers of different dice from them?

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    Kevin_Cook - Depleted uranium dice - words fail me. Wow.

    Chronos - good point, mean 1.75 if d4-1 is a damage roll or something that is minimum 1. That explains why he asked the question, too. I'd been wondering that. Still worse than d3 though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronos View Post
    That depends. In many contexts where one might encounter 1d4-1, the minimum is assumed to be 1 (that is, if you roll a 1, the result is still 1). In that case, you can get a 1, 1, 2, or 3, for an average of 1.75. Since the worst result is overrepresented, it's still worse, in general, than the d3.
    Because I'm thinking of the Apelord, who can summon once per day, either 1d3 dire apes, or 1d4-1 normal apes. My first thought was that the 1d3 dire apes sounds much, much, much better.
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    That looks to me like a typo for 1d4+1, then. For comparison, the Summon Monster spells all let you get 1 monster off of the same-level list, 1d3 from the next-lower list, or 1d4+1 from the list two levels lower. 1d4+1 is obviously better than 1d3, so in that case it becomes a question of whether you want more small things or fewer big things. Reading it exactly as written, it would make no sense at all to summon regular apes.
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    Not sure what happened to the first post I made on these ... something seems to have deleted them

    Quote Originally Posted by Icewalker View Post
    But if there are companies that will produce personalized dice by request, and different ones count, can't you just get huge numbers of different dice from them?
    Correct ... but given that the minimum number of dice with one graphic ... is 10 ... I doubt any of the dice companies would be willing to engrave 1000's of images ... on just 10 dice each

    Quote Originally Posted by raygungothic View Post
    Kevin_Cook - Depleted uranium dice - words fail me. Wow.
    Yea ... that one blew me away as well ... I would love ot have a set of those ... even found a lead box to put them in

    They are as elusive as the Former worlds smallest dice I have sent them several emails trying to purchase one ... but have had no luck

    The current smallest are just nuts ... I would have to purchase an electron microscope to show them off ... 200 microns

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    Kevin_Cook - Good luck with the uranium dice, make sure you keep the lead box in a well-sealed airtight tub in your cellar. Dust and contact are more dangerous than the emitted radiation; distance is a good protection from both.

    Looking at 1mm on my ruler, a 1/3mm dice like you linked to should be readable through a big magnifying glass. Bit pricey though.

    Do you have any nontransitive dice sets? Any non-d6 nontransitives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raygungothic View Post
    Do you have any nontransitive dice sets?
    Yes

    Any non-d6 nontransitives?
    Not that I know of

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    Ah, those weren't what I was thinking of when I said nontransitives (I was thinking of the set of 4 seen here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontransitive_dice
    ) ...but they are very cool and I want some!

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    Back when I was younger my father used to play D&D with my brother and I. He had a set of critical hit and critical fumble d6. Do youhave a set of these? If not, I would be willing to send them your way (as long as you don't mind paying shipping).

    P.S. Assuming I can find them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorthingSon View Post
    Back when I was younger my father used to play D&D with my brother and I. He had a set of critical hit and critical fumble d6. Do youhave a set of these? If not, I would be willing to send them your way (as long as you don't mind paying shipping).

    P.S. Assuming I can find them.
    Sorry for the delay ... I have been trying to reply for 2 days ... but the server keeps timing out

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    Any asymmetric dice with (theoretically) uniform distributions?

    note: the link to Sicherman Dice is incorrect when it says,

    "Any game that you can play with a normal set of two dice can also be played with a set of Sicherman Dice, with no difference in the outcome."

    A counter-example would be Monopoly (a game played with a normal set of two dice). The odds of rolling doubles is normally 1 in 6... with Sicherman Dice it is 1 in 9. Rolling doubles has numerous effects in the game. Another counter-example would be Backgammon and a third would be craps (which gives different odds depending upon how you make your point).

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