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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    I think it was in the original Unearthed Arcana, so probably also in the 3.5 version as well. And they had plenty in DRAGON over the years.
    Wait they had feats in the original Unearthed Arcana? I thought they only had Non-Weapon Proficiencies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurilee View Post
    Nah, bards are entertaining, they get a pass.
    Are you making a pass at me? Because... well, uh.... charisma! Yeah! Charisma!

    Time to get my bard on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    I think it was in the original Unearthed Arcana, so probably also in the 3.5 version as well. And they had plenty in DRAGON over the years.
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    Wait they had feats in the original Unearthed Arcana? I thought they only had Non-Weapon Proficiencies...

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    The original AD&D 1.0 had secondary skills -- basically, your profession before you became an adventurer.

    AD&D 1.5 (the re-edits, plus the UA, Wilderness Handbook, et al.) added NWPs.

    And added more NWPs.

    And more NWPs.

    And NWPs more or less became sort of feats.

    Ta-freakin'-dah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    Are you making a pass at me? Because... well, uh.... charisma! Yeah! Charisma!

    Time to get my bard on...

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    Heh. Charisma indeed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    The original AD&D 1.0 had secondary skills -- basically, your profession before you became an adventurer.

    AD&D 1.5 (the re-edits, plus the UA, Wilderness Handbook, et al.) added NWPs.

    And added more NWPs.

    And more NWPs.

    And NWPs more or less became sort of feats.

    Ta-freakin'-dah!

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    Until it became full circle and they became WP! Not really, though. They did have a LOT of them! I believe one character that I hulked up to almost level 100 (homebrewed of course) had every NWP under the sun including, again, homebrews!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    Are you making a pass at me? Because... well, uh.... charisma! Yeah! Charisma!

    Time to get my bard on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurilee View Post
    Heh. Charisma indeed!

    It's a gift.

    That verse would go well in a sig file, too.

    Not that I'm hinting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    You paid list price? You lawfuls always pay list price.

    I hope you didn't tip...

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    I only tipped 10 gp and 25 sp. Is there a problem with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    Are you making a pass at me? Because... well, uh.... charisma! Yeah! Charisma!

    Time to get my bard on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8BitNinja View Post
    I only tipped 10 gp and 25 sp. Is there a problem with that?
    Yeah, you've dis-incentivised the help by overpaying. Now they're going to want more from me for sloppy service.

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    No one expects the Bardic Exposition!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    Yeah, you've dis-incentivised the help by overpaying. Now they're going to want more from me for sloppy service.

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    Oh I don't know... On one hand, you probably won't be seen as the type to give out tips easily. On the other hand, Chaotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    Yeah, you've dis-incentivised the help by overpaying. Now they're going to want more from me for sloppy service.

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    This is why you take Prestidigitate. You make 'em a shoddy copy of a platinum piece. Tell 'em that it was part of a dragon hoard or something, battle damaged. Server's likely never seen a platinum piece, say they all look artificial at first. Maybe ask for an extra nicety that you can get in under an hour. Book it outta there.

    Granted, I'm the type of Sorcerer that pumps up Int, but still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    It's a gift.

    That verse would go well in a sig file, too.

    Not that I'm hinting

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurilee View Post
    Done
    I love it when my genius is shared.

    Nope, no ego here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    I love it when my genius is shared.

    Nope, no ego here

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    A bard with an ego? What a ridiculous concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    Yeah, you've dis-incentivised the help by overpaying. Now they're going to want more from me for sloppy service.

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    Just use that charisma to haggle

    Charisma is used for more than bluffing, performing, and seducing, bard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    Yeah, you've dis-incentivised the help by overpaying. Now they're going to want more from me for sloppy service.

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    People wanting enough to live on. How heinous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8BitNinja View Post
    Just use that charisma to haggle

    Charisma is used for more than bluffing, performing, and seducing, bard.
    Yeah, like Diplomancy.

    Wait a second...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8BitNinja View Post
    Just use that charisma to haggle

    Charisma is used for more than bluffing, performing, and seducing, bard.
    If I do it right, the Paladin ends up paying for lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    If I do it right, the Paladin ends up paying for lunch.

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    Steps for making a Paladin pay for lunch:
    1. Look hungry
    2. Glance at your empty coin purse
    3. Glance meaningfully at someone else's full coin purse
    4. Paladin pays for your lunch


    In some cases, you can also get bonus points for playing the "damsel in distress" card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    If I do it right, the Paladin ends up paying for lunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurilee View Post
    Steps for making a Paladin pay for lunch:
    1. Look hungry
    2. Glance at your empty coin purse
    3. Glance meaningfully at someone else's full coin purse
    4. Paladin pays for your lunch


    In some cases, you can also get bonus points for playing the "damsel in distress" card.
    Sure, I'll pay for both of your lunches, do you guys also want fries and a shake with it?
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    Sure, I'll pay for both of your lunches, do you guys also want fries and a shake with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8BitNinja View Post
    Sure, I'll pay for both of your lunches, do you guys also want fries and a shake with it?
    Yes please to the shake.

    Fries only if they're curly (because everyone knows that only lawfuls eat straight-cut fries...)
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    Hey all.

    Quick question. Is Rich on a break of some kind? This isn't intended to be one of those "Waaaah! Where's my new comic?" type posts.

    Just an observation that there's been an unusual delay between new comics and I was wondering if I missed an announcement of a "on vacation until X date" or something and can stop checking back daily for a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocoolnamejim View Post
    Hey all.

    Quick question. Is Rich on a break of some kind? This isn't intended to be one of those "Waaaah! Where's my new comic?" type posts.

    Just an observation that there's been an unusual delay between new comics and I was wondering if I missed an announcement of a "on vacation until X date" or something and can stop checking back daily for a bit.
    New Calendar thread has an explanation.
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    Thanks Peelee. Appreciate it.

    Hope things improve for Rich on the family front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8BitNinja View Post
    Sure, I'll pay for both of your lunches, do you guys also want fries and a shake with it?
    What sort of shake? Mint chocolate chip? Harlem?

    It really does matter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aurilee View Post
    Yes please to the shake.

    Fries only if they're curly (because everyone knows that only lawfuls eat straight-cut fries...)
    Contrarian chaotics like straight fries, but only if you say they like curly fries.

    Like you can predict chaotics anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    Contrarian chaotics like straight fries, but only if you say they like curly fries.

    Like you can predict chaotics anyway...

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    Contrarian chaotics? As opposed to all those conformist chaotics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aurilee View Post
    Contrarian chaotics? As opposed to all those conformist chaotics?
    Yes, like the ones who claim that all chaotics prefer curly fries.

    What about sweet potato fries, huh? What about the sweet potatoes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    Yes, like the ones who claim that all chaotics prefer curly fries.

    What about sweet potato fries, huh? What about the sweet potatoes?

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    Point taken

    But there's something to be said for making random demands of overly-helpful paladins and claiming it's some sort of cultural norm. ^_^

    As for the sweet potatoes, they are always welcome on my plate. Especially if they happen to be purple sweet potatoes. Curly purple sweet potato fries are where it's at. Mmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quibbilcious View Post
    Yes, like the ones who claim that all chaotics prefer curly fries.

    What about sweet potato fries, huh? What about the sweet potatoes?

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    Yeah, but the chaotics were so preoccupied with whether or not they wanted the curly fries, they didn't stop to think if they should GET said curly fries. Just a thought....

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