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    By the way, to make this clear, by warning shot I meant a huge stick in my shoe with a message along the lines of „Clean up your act or next time I'll use it” attached to it and by when I was a kid I mean maybe 16 years ago.

    So yeah, Santa/the Nikolaus/however we call the old man is scary.
    Especially when christmas time comes closer.
    He knows everything you have done. He has seen you do it. And he will punish you.

    At least I usually didn't have to meet him. Mostly left the gifts under the tree while the family went for a walk*.
    Well, there was one year when we visited another part of the family where he delivered the gifts personally. And you had to sing/recite something to get them. Scariest Christmas ever. The fact that I was old enough to know it was just someone in a costume didn't help at all.

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    See, in Switzerland, HE COMES TO YOUR HOUSE. At night. And then stands in your living room and reads you a list of everything you did wrong that year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
    16th? We do it on the 6th. Weird, never knew we were a week early on that,too.
    Also, if Odin used to be Santa.. I think naughty kids got more than a lump of coal.
    Huh... Wikipedia says you're right, and there's no mention of an Austria-specific 16th for the day, but that's what I remember it as. Maybe it was just the 6th, and I'm remembering it wrong? I dunno. Coulda sworn it was the 16th, but now I feel like I should call my mom sometime and verify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldan View Post
    See, in Switzerland, HE COMES TO YOUR HOUSE. At night. And then stands in your living room and reads you a list of everything you did wrong that year.
    Yikes... Switzerland must be a scary place...
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    Why do you think it got the highest number of gun per capita and everyone are trained to use it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fri View Post
    Why do you think it got the highest number of gun per capita and everyone are trained to use it?
    It doesn't though? Although it is fairly high up the list.

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    Well, they know what to ask santa then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fri View Post
    Well, they know what to ask santa then.
    Asking scary Swiss Santa for a gun seems like a fast track to a Darwin award.

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    You've gone full Futurama now. That isn't necessarily a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anteros View Post
    You've gone full Futurama now. That isn't necessarily a bad thing.
    Futurama Santa is harmless. Almost cuddly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fri View Post
    Why do you think it got the highest number of gun per capita and everyone are trained to use it?
    "Everyone" is vastly overstating it. Something like 50% of all men get themselves declared unfit for duty. THe higher educated, the higher that number, too. WHen I was being drafted, 19/20 college students in my group got out on technicalities or mental problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    I'm not kidding. One year I actually got a warning shot in my boot.
    That is some motivation to be a nice kid.
    How do you get a warning shot in your boot? Except the literal one...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
    How do you get a warning shot in your boot? Except the literal one...?
    I wasn't wearing it.

    The message was still very clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    I wasn't wearing it.

    The message was still very clear.
    I assumed you were speaking metaphorically.

    That story just got WAY scarier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetrimino View Post
    I assumed you were speaking metaphorically.

    That story just got WAY scarier.
    That was unintended.
    But funny.
    And no, it wasn't a literal shot.
    This is what happened:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    By the way, to make this clear, by warning shot I meant a huge stick in my shoe with a message along the lines of „Clean up your act or next time I'll use it” attached to it and by when I was a kid I mean maybe 16 years ago.
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    I was going to say, that's one badass Santa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    That was unintended.
    But funny.
    And no, it wasn't a literal shot.
    This is what happened:
    Ah, I missed that. My bad, now it's much less scary


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    The funny thing about Odin is that he - along with the rest of norse mythology - changes a lot once christianity starts making it's entry into northern Europe. So personally I find it doubtful he was 'Santa' before the coming of christ. He was, after all, the god of death and the afterlife, originally.

    Also exceptionally deceitful, selfish, greedy, fickle ... and so on.

    The whole Allfather affair is definitely a later adaption.

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    Regarding today's comic...I can't say I haven't done something similar myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    That was unintended.
    But funny.
    And no, it wasn't a literal shot.
    This is what happened:
    I must have missed that part, the story makes more sense now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaptin Keen View Post
    The funny thing about Odin is that he - along with the rest of norse mythology - changes a lot once christianity starts making it's entry into northern Europe. So personally I find it doubtful he was 'Santa' before the coming of christ. He was, after all, the god of death and the afterlife, originally.

    Also exceptionally deceitful, selfish, greedy, fickle ... and so on.

    The whole Allfather affair is definitely a later adaption.
    God of the afterlife? Isn't Hel supposed to be deity of the afterlife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetrimino View Post
    God of the afterlife? Isn't Hel supposed to be deity of the afterlife?
    Odin (and Freya) got the souls of those who died honorable, in battle.
    Everyone else ended up with Hel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetrimino View Post
    God of the afterlife? Isn't Hel supposed to be deity of the afterlife?
    Thing is - my noble ancestors didn't have written records. Everything known about ancient norse religion is written down in the 1200's or later, when the bloody christians introduced us to writing.

    By then, norse mythology was trying to reinvent itself to compete with all the happy nonsense of christendom: A pleasant afterlife, the message of love, and so on. Hence, it's highly unclear what the original religion was like.

    For one thing - I didn't see anyone mention this yet - there are some who believe Loke and Odin were originally the same guy. Same for Frig and Freya.

    So ... point is, it's all rather opague. But, Odin appears quite simply to be older than Hel. And he's not just the god of the dead. He's a shaman, a shapeshifter, he has several animal companions, he's a trickster, he is connected to horses and spears and whatnot. Also, he's the Allfather, the highest of the asa, yet he wasn't worshipped much - this follows from the fact that not many places are named for him.

    And then of course there's quite a bit of discussion on whether or not he was, at some point, a historical figure. And whether the norse gods are asa, because they came from asia.

    =)

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    I'm pretty sure talking about "the happy nonsense" of other religions is against board rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kantaki View Post
    Odin (and Freya) got the souls of those who died honorable, in battle.
    Everyone else ended up with Hel.
    Ah, right. I forgot how complicated the Norse afterlife is.
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    I'm pretty sure talking about "the happy nonsense" of other religions is against board rules.
    I think taking things out of context also is? I do go on to explain that 'happy nonsense' = 'love, paradise, salvation'.

    These are simple facts: Christendom (new testament) is primarily about pleasant things, love, understanding, forgiveness, and so on.

    By contrast, asa faith is all about strength, power, deceit, sex ... and so on.

    When it became obvious that christendom was pulling ahead despite it's unmanly lack of focus on lopping off heads and limbs, asa faith adapted, adding in a less unpleasant afterlife.

    If you must insist on deliberately misunderstanding - go ahead, I don't really mind. But don't make me out as a bigot or whatever by randomly picking half a sentence to throw back in my face. Thanks =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaptin Keen View Post
    I think taking things out of context also is? I do go on to explain that 'happy nonsense' = 'love, paradise, salvation'.

    These are simple facts: Christendom (new testament) is primarily about pleasant things, love, understanding, forgiveness, and so on.

    By contrast, asa faith is all about strength, power, deceit, sex ... and so on.

    When it became obvious that christendom was pulling ahead despite it's unmanly lack of focus on lopping off heads and limbs, asa faith adapted, adding in a less unpleasant afterlife.

    If you must insist on deliberately misunderstanding - go ahead, I don't really mind. But don't make me out as a bigot or whatever by randomly picking half a sentence to throw back in my face. Thanks =)
    You're misunderstanding: being a bigot is not against board rules (just several of the side-effects of being a bigot ). Discussing real-world religion is against Forum Rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaptin Keen View Post
    I think taking things out of context also is? I do go on to explain that 'happy nonsense' = 'love, paradise, salvation'.

    These are simple facts: Christendom (new testament) is primarily about pleasant things, love, understanding, forgiveness, and so on.

    By contrast, asa faith is all about strength, power, deceit, sex ... and so on.

    When it became obvious that christendom was pulling ahead despite it's unmanly lack of focus on lopping off heads and limbs, asa faith adapted, adding in a less unpleasant afterlife.

    If you must insist on deliberately misunderstanding - go ahead, I don't really mind. But don't make me out as a bigot or whatever by randomly picking half a sentence to throw back in my face. Thanks =)
    I don't think it makes you a bigot for not believing in something, but this whole conversation is against board rules (for precisely this reason) and we'll all likely get nuked as soon as a mod notices it.

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    The Mod Radiant: A) Discussion of real world religion is indeed not allowed on these forums, whether or not you're stating facts and clinical analysis without opinion or advocacy.
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    There has been zero discussion of any religion. Not that I'm aware of. Detailing aspects of religion is not discussion.

    That also isn't what the rules state. Never mind. I'm 100% agnostic at any rate, and feel nothing but historical attachment to religion. I did want to respond to what is to be nothing but a baseless personal attack.
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