A Woman Defended Me At The Pizza Place

[TheManicMonocle]

Can you guys just leave the autistic guy alone? Of course he's not telling the story right, he's autistic, stop trying to dissect the poor guy.

[Bartmanhomer]

Yep, and I unfortunately think it doesn't augur well for his infamous business with that movie theater lady, given that obtaining her phone number then going on dates is orders of magnitude more difficult than successfully ordering pizza.

Advice: set your sights on reasonable goals first, don't try to aim too high. When your basic skills have improved, then you can gradually change the target.

What don't that got to do with anything? Have you been reading my thread at all?

[lio45]

Can you guys just leave the autistic guy alone? Of course he's not telling the story right, he's autistic, stop trying to dissect the poor guy.

I'm familiar with autism (my ex's family was an extremely rare case with it being so frequent that they were being studied for a genetic component) and honestly, it's not a reason for not getting your facts straight - I'd even say it should be the other way around. Great memory for data, especially useless data. A high functioning autist with typical Asperger's would probably have the entire menu of the pizza place memorized and know exactly what costs what, what the specials are, etc.

[lio45]

What don't that got to do with anything? Have you been reading my thread at all?

The social skills involved in successfully getting a pizza slice from another human without drama or rejection are kind of related to the social skills involved in successfully getting a phone number from another human without drama or rejection, except that the latter is more difficult.

And yes, I've read all 6 pages of this thread (and am not getting my time back, unfortunately).

[Bartmanhomer]

Can you guys just leave the autistic guy alone? Of course he's not telling the story right, he's autistic, stop trying to dissect the poor guy.

I've been telling the story right. I don't need any translator to translated my language.

[TheManicMonocle]

I've been telling the story right. I don't need any translator to translated my language.

I'm sorry, I was trying to help a fellow autistic, please excuse me.

[Bartmanhomer]

I'm sorry, I was trying to help a fellow autistic, please excuse me.

Well your post was a bit offensive. But I understand you were trying to help.

[Anonymouswizard]

Can you guys just leave the autistic guy alone? Of course he's not telling the story right, he's autistic, stop trying to dissect the poor guy.

Although I don't have it on me (I keep it filed) I personally do have a diagnosis of autism, and know some other high functioning autistic people, and it can very wildly so in some ways it is useful to ask a lot of questions in order to understand exactly how it affects them (for example, many people think my speech impediment, generally misidentified as a stammer, comes from my autism, when in fact I just learnt to speak late and so can't naturally pause to get my breath back). Although this depends on the person, I personally have no problem with people trying to pick apart my condition and behaviour to try to understand me better, but some autistic people do.

I'm familiar with autism (my ex's family was an extremely rare case with it being so frequent that they were being studied for a genetic component) and honestly, it's not a reason for not getting your facts straight - I'd even say it should be the other way around. Great memory for data, especially useless data. A high functioning autist with typical Asperger's would probably have the entire menu of the pizza place memorized and know exactly what costs what, what the specials are, etc.

First off, can we please not use autist? I personally find it an insulting term (partially because of how it was used at school just after I got my diagnosis) and significantly prefer 'autistic person'. Yes, I know that there will be some people who prefer the term (just like I insist I have a condition which requires me to use mitigation strategies, instead of a disability where I have to use coping strategies), but generally autistic person is better (I'll also personally grumble about 'person with autism' but now fellow high functioning autistics who prefer it).

Secondly, well done on generalising. We have no idea if Bartmanhomer has typical Asbergers or something slightly different, I personally have a form of HFA that gives me a great memory for data, but I won't remember it unless I'm interested. I personally could not tell you more than the general price for something at my favourite restaurant. Heck, I forget names after 10 minutes even if I make an effort to remember them. If I had picked out what I wanted and was spending my time in the queue catching up on The Order of the Stick I would likely only be able to tell you the costs of what I've ordered.

[Bartmanhomer]

Although I don't have it on me (I keep it filed) I personally do have a diagnosis of autism, and know some other high functioning autistic people, and it can very wildly so in some ways it is useful to ask a lot of questions in order to understand exactly how it affects them (for example, many people think my speech impediment, generally misidentified as a stammer, comes from my autism, when in fact I just learnt to speak late and so can't naturally pause to get my breath back). Although this depends on the person, I personally have no problem with people trying to pick apart my condition and behaviour to try to understand me better, but some autistic people do.



First off, can we please not use autist? I personally find it an insulting term (partially because of how it was used at school just after I got my diagnosis) and significantly prefer 'autistic person'. Yes, I know that there will be some people who prefer the term (just like I insist I have a condition which requires me to use mitigation strategies, instead of a disability where I have to use coping strategies), but generally autistic person is better (I'll also personally grumble about 'person with autism' but now fellow high functioning autistics who prefer it).

Secondly, well done on generalising. We have no idea if Bartmanhomer has typical Asbergers or something slightly different, I personally have a form of HFA that gives me a great memory for data, but I won't remember it unless I'm interested. I personally could not tell you more than the general price for something at my favourite restaurant. Heck, I forget names after 10 minutes even if I make an effort to remember them. If I had picked out what I wanted and was spending my time in the queue catching up on The Order of the Stick I would likely only be able to tell you the costs of what I've ordered.

The name of Aspergers and other names have changed to Autism Spectrum Disorder.

[Anonymouswizard]

The name of Aspergers and other names have changed to Autism Spectrum Disorder.

ASD is a weird term. When I got my diagnosis it was used to mean 'not neurotypical but doesn't qualify for a stronger diagnosis'. For what it's worth, Aspergers is a specific type of ASD that might not be recognised in some documents used for diagnosis. Aspergers is still a useful term because it talks about a specific set of symptoms that are relatively common (although not everyone with Aspergers has every symptom, they have more than I do). ASD has existed for at least 8 years (roughly when I got my diagnosis, and ASD and Aspergers were considered different things back then).

If any psychologists were able to elaborate on the differences and if Aspergers is still considered a 'thing' that would be great.

[2D8HP]

....I don't need any translator to translated my language.

Please:

"to translate my language."

Not "translated".

Though "I didn't need any translator to have translated my language", would have worked as well.

[Aedilred]

Please:

"to translate my language."

Not "translated".

Though "I didn't need any translator to have translated my language", would have worked as well.

"I didn't need any translator to have translated my language" doesn't work.

"To translate" is an infinitive and so doesn't need to be adjusted depending on the tense of other verbs in the sentence.

[Bartmanhomer]

"I didn't need any translator to have translated my language" doesn't work.

"To translate" is an infinitive and so doesn't need to be adjusted depending on the tense of other verbs in the sentence.

What difference does it make?! Why are we still even talking about it anyway? It's been two weeks already. It's over. It seems that everybody still making a big deal about it!

[lio45]

First off, can we please not use autist? I personally find it an insulting term (partially because of how it was used at school just after I got my diagnosis) and significantly prefer 'autistic person'.

Sure, of course!

Secondly, well done on generalising. We have no idea if Bartmanhomer has typical Asbergers or something slightly different, I personally have a form of HFA that gives me a great memory for data...

I'm all but certain he said he had typical Asperger's in the past.

And anyway, I said "probably". Same way I would say that if I learn on an online discussion forum that you're a Finnish tourist visiting Spain in summer, among basic advice you probably want to make sure you take measures against sunburn, even though it's entirely possible that you might be a citizen of Finland who's 100% ethnically Congolese. No need to make a big deal out of it.

[lylsyly]

At the risk of pissing people off ........

I take psych meds myself, and I don't talk about my diagnosis because ........

If you can't deal with it, don't answer my posts, ignore me, block me, whatever .......

Don't just assume I don't know anything because I have a condition, and don't think you have to talk dumb to me, and don't think I won't get upset when you are being insensitive .....

Have I left anything out?

[Bartmanhomer]

At the risk of pissing people off ........

I take psych meds myself, and I don't talk about my diagnosis because ........

If you can't deal with it, don't answer my posts, ignore me, block me, whatever .......

Don't just assume I don't know anything because I have a condition, and don't think you have to talk dumb to me, and don't think I won't get upset when you are being insensitive .....

Have I left anything out?

No. You explain it very well.

[golentan]

What difference does it make?! Why are we still even talking about it anyway? It's been two weeks already. It's over. It seems that everybody still making a big deal about it!

Because when you make every little event in your life a forum* topic, sometimes people are going to run with it. Especially when there are elements of inconsistency, of poor communication, a high emotional content, and a posture of defensiveness from a potentially at fault party.

All of which you have brought to the table and more.

If you don't want people picking apart your life, maybe chronicle it in a journal rather than here.

*Noun. A gathering place for the exchange of ideas and debate.

[Bartmanhomer]

Because when you make every little event in your life a forum* topic, sometimes people are going to run with it. Especially when there are elements of inconsistency, of poor communication, a high emotional content, and a posture of defensiveness from a potentially at fault party.

All of which you have brought to the table and more.

If you don't want people picking apart your life, maybe chronicle it in a journal rather than here.

*Noun. A gathering place for the exchange of ideas and debate.

You're right. I'm sorry again for being so defensive. I'll try to be a bit more open-minded and not getting so defensive about it.

[Aedilred]

What difference does it make?! Why are we still even talking about it anyway? It's been two weeks already. It's over. It seems that everybody still making a big deal about it!

In this instance, you complained that you didn't need anyone to translate your language. And the very sentence in which you annouced that was parsed incorrectly. It was somewhat ironic.

Then 2d8HP corrected you, picking up on the irony, but in doing so made an error himself. Which is if anything even more ironic than your initial error, so I picked up on that.

That is all.

[Bartmanhomer]

In this instance, you complained that you didn't need anyone to translate your language. And the very sentence in which you annouced that was parsed incorrectly. It was somewhat ironic.

Then 2d8HP corrected you, picking up on the irony, but in doing so made an error himself. Which is if anything even more ironic than your initial error, so I picked up on that.

That is all.

Oh. I guess I own 2d8HP. an apology. Sorry 2d8HP.

[lio45]

Oh. I guess I own 2d8HP.

No, you don't own him...

:p

(You might consider you owe him an apology, yes.)

[2D8HP]

...but in doing so made an error himself. Which is if anything even more ironic than your initial error, so I picked up on that....

Oh. I guess I own 2d8HP. an apology. Sorry 2d8HP.

No apology needed at all.

Also, thanks to Aedilred I learned something (as may be guessed by my gibberish filled posts, I read a lot but I'm very uneducated).

[Peelee]

What difference does it make?! Why are we still even talking about it anyway? It's been two weeks already. It's over. It seems that everybody still making a big deal about it!

My best advice for you is to either stop caring what people write in here from here on out, or at least to stop reading it. You'll save yourself a lot of aggravation, it would seem, by just ignoring it.

[lio45]

My best advice for you is to either stop caring what people write in here from here on out, or at least to stop reading it. You'll save yourself a lot of aggravation, it would seem, by just ignoring it.

As golentan puts it, an even better way of saving himself the aggravation would be to stop making little irrelevant events of his life into forum threads if he doesn't want other users chiming in with their two cents on those events.

As we say here (and I'm not sure the translation works), that's just you being the craftsman building your own unhappiness, so, look into the mirror if you want it to change.

Alternatively, you can try to develop a thicker skin, and continue to deal with people, nearly all of which (at least on this forum) are probably decently well intentioned.

[Delicious Taffy]

This thread was a journey, man. It started with pizza, had some confusion in the middle, and closed off with a chat about autism.

But did everyone in the restaurant clap at the end?

[Bartmanhomer]

This thread was a journey, man. It started with pizza, had some confusion in the middle, and closed off with a chat about autism.

But did everyone in the restaurant clap at the end?

No they didn't clap. The rest of the customers just mind their own business.

[Fawkes]

But did everyone in the restaurant clap at the end?

That woman's name? Albert Einstein.

Has someone already made this joke?

[Y.T.]

That woman's name? Albert Einstein.

Has someone already made this joke?

Lol, this had my breakfast coming out of my nose with my colleague looking on in disgust and wonder.

[Green Elf]

8bithomer is the best thing to happen to this forum.

Nice. 8bithomer. So, I heard 8bitninja used to be kinda bad... But he changed. (Heard it from him). So, just out of curiosity of what my own brother ​did before, what did he do?

((I think I'm a little late))

[S@tanicoaldo]

Nice. 8bithomer. So, I heard 8bitninja used to be kinda bad... But he changed. (Heard it from him). So, just out of curiosity of what my own brother ​did before, what did he do?

((I think I'm a little late))

Dear Pagan Gods, just let this thread die already. If 8-bit ninja is your brother, why don't you just go and ask him?