Why are shadows associated with darkness?

[Segev]

Which is all fine when talking about what the people in the setting subjectively believe. One is the mythology of their setting, the other is the reality. IMO, it's a very particular setting where subjective mythologies literally define the reality of that setting.

The confusion in discussion comes about when posters freely flip back and forth between what the people believe in the setting believe, and the objective reality of their setting, without being clear as to which one they're talking about at any moment.

Oh, sure. What is objectively true should be known at least to the GM. Even if the players don't know it, and have to try to learn it through the auspices of play.

[veti]

Oh, sure. What is objectively true should be known at least to the GM. Even if the players don't know it, and have to try to learn it through the auspices of play.

The DM should probably have a reasonable idea of what's "objectively true", although I suspect a certain fuzziness around the edges is extremely common practice even at that level.

But I, personally, wouldn't expect that "objective truth" to be shared with anyone. Ever. Certainly not with the players, and probably not in a thread like this, unless talking about a historical setting that is never expected to be used again. All they know is what they perceive, and what they deduce for themselves from that perception, which may or may not be intentionally framed for the express purpose of shaping their belief...

And good luck to them.