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2017-03-16, 02:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
As the title ask what kind of mystic are y'all building. I had a character leave the party last game because of reasons of how he was treated. So my DM was encouraging me to roll up a mystic. Which is cool but I can't settle on any orders, disciplines, talents. And was looking for inspiration.
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2017-03-16, 02:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
"Fear and intimidation, mostly, though a little torture here and there helps" Comic #817
Avatar drawn by: Honest Tiefling
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2017-03-16, 03:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-16, 03:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
Ok, so I actually did just try to make the super-skrull mystic and was a bit surprised by how much I liked the end result:
I assumed 3rd level (level of campaign I am currently running).
I selected Order of Wu Jen, disciplines of:
Mastery of fire
Mastery of force
Nomadic Chameleon
Brute Force
He can do powerful punches, mighty leaps, and feats of str.
He can go invisible (even as a cantrip),and hide in plain sight.
He can push characters and move things with telekinetic force, erect a telekinetic barrier, and grasp stuff.
He can kill things with fire.
All staying below the 3 PP limit (for each not total).
With the mastery of fire focus and fire based energy beam talent can shoot enemies at 1d8+2 all day long, and if anyone is fire resistant just switch to different damage type.
he can't fly yet, but can pick that up with another discipline at 5th level or arcane dabbler for it at 6th level.
I also note that of his 13 different discipline/spells, only 3 use the bonus action (step from sight, brute strike, and feats of str) and I don't see myself getting conflicted much on which to use when.
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2017-03-16, 03:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
The Mystic build I've been looking at is Mystic 1/Kensei 5/Mystic 5/Kensei 9.
With those stats?
High Elf
STR 12
DEX 19 (17 + 2)
CON 17
INT 18 (17 + 1)
WIS 17
CHA 12
ASIs: DEX +1/WIS +1, Resilient (CON), then whatever you want.
Go Order of the Soul Knife and name your Soul Knife a Kensei weapon. For your Disciplines, I went with Beastial Form, Nomadic Step, and Psionic Weapon.
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2017-03-16, 03:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
We're doing a Planescape one shot soon, and we can play a character from any non science fiction universe, and I'm considering being a Witch from Terry Pratchett's Discworld. Being a witch on the Disc is like 90% attitude; if everyone is terrified that you are going to hex them, you don't actually have to do a lot of hexing. I see her as using Occlude Mind a lot to make people believe things that are (mostly) true anyways, like: "Could make you a frog and wouldn't break a sweat."
In my dreams, I get to, at some point, ask the DM "Is that building sentient?"(This is Sigil, it very well could be) and then proceed to intimidate it into getting out of my way.
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2017-03-16, 09:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
I've been messing around with a build aimed at max survivability. Notes copy-pasted below. Sorry about the lack of explanation and formatting; I'm on my phone so it's hard to rewrite it. Hoefully it makes some sense. Might come back and edt for clarity when I'm on my laptop.
Invincible Mystic
Bump con, int, dex...vhuman with res con, lucky, warcaster, dex, dex
Wu jen for L14 immunitiesans wiz spells:, shield, mirror image, counterspell
Intellect fortress for reaction saving throw boosts
Wood and Earth focus for +1 AC and concentration resistance to b/s/p
Diminution turn hits into misses as reactions, or conc for +5 AC
Bestial form+2 AC and flight
Cloak of air conc for disadv on attacks
Precog for conc d4 bonus to attacks, checks, throws
(Adaptive Body for elemental resistances, Mastery of Force for Inertial Armor, Mastery of Ice for temp HP, mastery of Light and Dark for shadow beasts)
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2017-03-16, 10:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
Try my Jedi build
Favorite Race for this is Eladrin, Feral Tiefling, and High Elf. Go Order of Soul Knife and have fun. Reflavor tiefling as Twi'liks or Nautolans
Disciplines by 10
Mastery of Force (because its the FORCE and also YOU CAN FORCE CHOKE IN D&D NOW)
Mastery of Air- for when you need to dive off buildings or AOE Force Push mooks.
Mastery of Wood and Earth- for focus since im not grabbing iron durability, and MINDSABER THROW via animate weapon.
Psionic weapon- because you always take this. +7 is coolio and smiting is coolioer.
Brute Force- for when you want to combine attacking and pushing people back 140 feet into a wall, or force jump.
Take Energy beam for force lightning, Mystic Hand for manipulating things with the force, Beacon because your mindsaber glows in the dark and you can choose its color or mystic charm for the jedi mind tricks.
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2017-03-16, 11:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
I am really keen to try a Soul Knife build. With your stats you could pull off a beast of one too.
17 Wis, Int, Dex, and Con.
Taking the Immortal Diminution: You can be tiny and still do the same damage!
Immortal Brute Force: You can leap onto enemies from up to 140ft away!
That is enough! You end up being a tiny bouncing murderball and you still have heaps of options to play with as you like:
Immortal Celerity: Crazy movement bonuses
Wu Jen Mastery of air: Fly up to 140, also at no cost, so you can run-leap-fly for 310 movement in one turn! (while tiny)
I find the best builds (unless you are looking for min-maxing, in which case everyone here will have you well covered) reach their fantasy early and then become more flexible or give you options to specialize as you progress.
Have fun! I hope I get the chance to test Mystic myself soon.
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2017-03-17, 03:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
Think of a Druid 2/Immortal x, wild shape and psionics = no problem, with casting, or communicating via telepathy.
the immortals dex+con could be useful, but doesn't improve by much...
psionics female Steeder spiders seem good.
AC 14 (15 with Immortal Durability)
HP 30 (+ Mystic level hp with Immortal Durability + int mod temp hp/round with Psionic Resilience(@3rd levelMystic))
Speed 30/climb 30
STR15/Dex16/Con14
Stealth 7
DDark vision120
Spiderclimb
Leap : 90 ft vertical or horizontal
Bite: +7 d8+3 plus 2d8 acid Con DC 12 for half
Sticky Legs: Recharges when no one is grappled, +5 to hit, reach 5ft, target is stuck to leg, escape grapple dc 12
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2017-03-17, 02:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
I was thinking in some "more control, party help and out of combat options, less damage".
lvl 7
Mystic - Order of the Avatar
Forest Gnome:
observant
Str 8
Dex 14
Con 14
Int 18
Wis 12
Cha 10
Skill: Perception + Arcana
PP: 19
IP: 19
AC19 (or 18 without desadvantage in stealth)
Minor illusion
Darkvision
Gnome Cunning
Speak with Small Beasts
Mystical Recovery
Telepathy
Strength of Mind - keep at Con
38 PP - 6 disciplines
Talents: Mind Thrust, Mystic Charm
Disciplines (you can retrain your avatar discipline, dumb, but you can):
Mastery of Light and Darkness:
combat focus on Light and Darkness, cast darkness first turn for 1 pp, stay inside. Be attacked with desadvantage and with Gnome Cunning, there is few options that can scare you.
Shadow Beasts is good action option. Radiant Beam ins't good, but is a radiant option.
Nomadic Mind: focus is just to good to pass, now with one bonus action, you can have prod in any discipline.
much non combat stuff here
Telepathic Contact: Much non combat options here, but Occluded Mind, Broken Will and Psychic Grip can handle BBEs, as Psychic Domination later.
Psionic Restoration: Save the party!
Mantle of Command: depends of your party, but movements are always great, Coordinated Movement is cheap and bonus action. Command to Strike ans (later) Overwhelming Attack can be really good with the right allies.
Psychic Disruption: Your AoE came from here, Mind Storm is great if your party (and you later) have good ST effects. Coordinated Movement can help to get allies out of AoE.
Distracting haze is great but need conc, daze is a good option too.
You don't have much damage options other than psychic, but have plenty of effects or let party attack for you.
Other good disciplines:
Mastery of Weather: whirlwind can change the entire table, you and your allies can auto fail (1d6 damage) and this can move you up to 40ft.
Hungry Lightning and Lightning Leap bring some non psychic damage. Wall of Thunder can be great after whirlwind or Coordinated Movement. Thunder Clap for stun.
Nomadic Step: teleport is good, Defensive Step too There and Back Again with your movement options too, Phantom Caravan and Nomad’s Gate with Wandering Eye or Phasing Eye can break any dungeon
Psychic Phantoms: Distracting Figment is great for your shadows and if your party is melee heavy. With Mantle of Command too.
Phantom Betrayal is great.
Psychic Assault: damages are all good, but Psychic Crush is great.
Psychic Inquisition: just for Hammer of Inquisition, if your party have nasty Wis ST effects
Diminution: Stealty!
Bestial Form: just to get no concentration flight and Tough Hide for 1h, or some "if I need it" (like breathe air and water)
Crown of Rage: Primal Fury is a good battlefield control, great with someone with polearm master (and warcaster, maybe). Punishing Fury is bonus action, great with shadows and melee party
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2017-03-17, 03:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
Porting over my 2nd ed Psionicist (psymetabolic) who had seriously good roles for 2nd ed in primary stats. He skipped 3.x and 4e. But he does have associations with Sigil factions, without the hang up of being part of them.
Psychas (shut up, I like it)
Standard Human
Immortal Mystic lvl 5
Acolyte (psionic temple,religionarcana/insight)
Stats
16 Str 14 Dex 18 Con 20 Int 20 Wis 15 Chr (Int and Wis receive the ASI bump at 4th level)
Passive Wisdom: 18
HP:54 PSP: 27 (I know it is PP, but honestly I prefer Psionic strength points over peepee)
Class Skills:
Perception +8 Arcana +8 Insight +8 Medicine +8
Weapons: Mace, Baatorian steel short sword (2nd ed, short swords were allowed, and I stole it from a demon camp outside the Blood War)
Armor: Hide armor, round shield (see note above)
Class features:
Immortal Durability, Mystical Recovery, Telepathy, Psionic Resilience, Strength Of Mind, 1st ASI (Int & Wis)
Talents- Mystic Hand, Mind Slam
Disciplines- Adaptive Body, Mastery of Force, Psionic Restoration, Psionic Weapon, Third Eye
Found while he was young by a Half-giant psionic master, Psychas was extremely talented and powerful for his youth. As a pupil, Psychas was resourceful and creative, but also highly self-reliant. At the completion of his initial training, his master decided tokicksend him out across the planes to learn and grow. Where he was quickly found by a group of adventurers and joined them in course of their careers.
The elf wizard let him board with her in Sigil, mostly because of his quiet contemplative lifestyle, minimal footprint, and his culinary inventiveness in creating a breaded pie topped with sauce, cheese and various other toppings that was nearly unheard of in Sigil at the time. Otherwise, they were completely platonic (no seriously). Now the rest of the party, yeesh.Last edited by Typhon; 2017-03-17 at 03:22 PM.
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2017-03-17, 08:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
I actually thought a Bladesinger/Soul Knife would be interesting. Haven't done too much planning into it, but another Int. based caster provides a lot of multiclass opertunities for wizards, especially with as much stuff as Mystic gets to choose from, with 6 traditions and what's essentially a separate spell list.
Spoiler: My Favorite PC'sMalik Hammerson-VHuman- Ranger (Hunter) 4/Cleric (War) 4: "MY LIFE SUCKS!"
Valicus Pyr'Ticosta-High Elf-Wizard (Bladesinger) 9: "You killed my father! And Sister! And a few of my guards! Prepare to die!"
Zarkelthore Surfacekin-Half Drow-Ranger (Hunter) 6: "What's a Sun? Why are you laughing?"
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2017-03-17, 09:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
A new campaign we are starting soon will have Svirfneblin/Urchin/Order of the Awakened Mind Mystic in it, with a heavy focus on stealth and sensory abilities to serve as a pseudo-rogue. Starting Talent: Mind Thrust; Starting Disciplines: Psychic Inquisition, Precognition, Diminuation
I also know another group that is planning on having a 'blastery' Fire Gensai Wujen, but I don't know the details of the character in full
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2017-03-17, 09:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-17, 09:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
I was contemplating an Awakened Mystic who believes he comes from a broken future world. Taking precognition and psychic phantoms and Crown of Despair, so he can 'share' glimpses of what he sees every day with others.
I was thinking High elf, but only because the influence for the character was Xan from Baldur's Gate.
'Onward, to futility!'Part-time DM, part-time player in 5e. I aim to be reasonable.
Homebrews on the stove (5e):
Wizard School: Black Magic
Druid Circle of the Many
Druid Circle of the Silver Moon
Bard College of the Chord
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2017-03-17, 09:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
IMO you need to decide what STYLE to play and go from there.
I want to play a 'caster' style, and being the smartest person around, I want people to KNEEL before me. So I'm talking Mastery of the Wind. Using Wind Stream to knock people prone as I declare myself their new GOD!*
*I'm going to die pretty quickly, I think.Last edited by jaappleton; 2017-03-17 at 09:28 PM.
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2017-03-17, 09:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
Worked up the level 20 version with the player (though subject to change through play of course):
Svirfneblin/Urchin/Mystic
Order of The Awakened Mind
Talents: Mind Thrust (1), Mind Meld (3), Blind Spot (10), Mystic Hand (17)
Disciplines: Psychic Inquisition, Precognition, Diminution (1); Telepathic Contact (3), Third Eye (5), Nomadic Mind (7), Nomadic Chameleon (9), Aura Sight (12), Psychic Assault (15), Mastery of Air (18)
ASI: +2 INT (4), +2 INT (8), Svirfneblin Racial Feat (12), Skulker (16), (?Alert/Lucky/Observant?) (19)
Skills: Insight, Investigation, Perception, History, Stealth, Sleight of Hand; Thief's Tools, Disguise Kit; Common, Gnomish, Undercommon
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2017-03-17, 09:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
Mystic/Ranger(archer based) Multi Class
Disciplines: Light & Darkness, Force, & Nomadic Arrow
Force for the Armor, Light/Darkness for magic darkness sight & self Magic Darkness Area, & Arrow for nice bonus damage.
Order: Nomadic or Wu Jin work.
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2017-03-17, 09:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
VHuman, Mystic (Order of the Nomad), Guild Artisan (Just a crafter really)
STR 8
DEX 16
CON 14
INT 16
WIS 12
CHA 8
Skills:
Stealth
Persuasion
Arcana
Perception
Insight
Tinkerer's Tools
Feat: Weapon Master (+1 Dex, Shortsword and Pistol, Pepperbox and Musket from Matthew Mercer's Gunslinger).
Talents: Mind Meld
Disciplines: Nomadic Arrow, Nomadic Chameleon, Psionic Weapon.
The thing about this guy is that he can shoot you from up to 800ft without disadvantage...
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Pardon me for any weird things, I have schizophrenia.
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2017-03-17, 10:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
Even though RAW it works, consider how weird it is to manifest a weapon out of yourself and somehow be able to animate it to attack. Just a consideration. I'm sure it can be fluffed away easy :P I mean especially since you are considering them to basically be lightsabers.
Anyway personally I was looking at Order of the Nomad and start with Wood and Earth, Nomadic Chameleon, and Nomadic Step. Basically being a Rogue without being a rogue. Wood and Earth specifically for "throwing" daggers and having them return, to be like a knife master. Would eventually also take Corrosive Metabolism, Celerity, and Psionic Weapon for sure, anything else would be based on how the character feels when actually playing as by this point that is a 7th level Mystic worth of disciplines. Could even consider multiclassing out into actual Rogue for sneak attack damage, I'd do that personally if no actual rogues in the party, maybe even take the 1st level dip sooner to start on Expertise.
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2017-03-17, 10:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
The other one I'm toying with is a Mystic Cockroach/insect.
Immortal with Crown of Disgust, Bestial Form and Diminution at level 1, followed by Psionic weapon, Corrosive Metabolism, Master of Wood and Earth, Celerity (for scattering), Precognition, Adaptive Body and finally, when I go full Mothra - Giant Growth.
If Thri kin was playable I'd do that; failing that I think I'll make him a really ugly, uncharismatic stout halfling. Last bug standing.Part-time DM, part-time player in 5e. I aim to be reasonable.
Homebrews on the stove (5e):
Wizard School: Black Magic
Druid Circle of the Many
Druid Circle of the Silver Moon
Bard College of the Chord
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2017-03-17, 10:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Pardon me for any weird things, I have schizophrenia.
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2017-03-17, 10:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
Part-time DM, part-time player in 5e. I aim to be reasonable.
Homebrews on the stove (5e):
Wizard School: Black Magic
Druid Circle of the Many
Druid Circle of the Silver Moon
Bard College of the Chord
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2017-03-17, 10:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-17, 10:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
Here's something i found to be cool.
Requires 14th level.
Bugbear Guardian Conclave Ranger 3/Immortal 11.
Take Giant Growth and Diminutive.
Start stealthed, in tiny form. Find target.
Psychic Focus on GGrowth.
Go into Guardian Form.
Use Psionic Mastery to Concentrate on both Ogre Form and Giant Form.
Wield a reach weapon. Like a Glaive.
Become a Huge tree and smack someone 40 feet away.
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2017-03-17, 11:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-03-17, 11:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
I don't have everything stated out, but a Soul Knife assassin with Diminutive powers & the awareness invisability trick
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2017-03-18, 12:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
I tried my own thread, but got no responses after one day. Thoughts on this character? I know i want to play order of the awakened mind, just not sure what disciplines to take with it? Something to increase stealth. Master of air seems cool
I enjoyed psionics when it was around in 2nd ed, and 3.x. right now i play a cool paladin, but if something unfortunate were to happen to him, then i will want to have a backup. No I'm not going to kill the paladin....plus the group needs a tank way more than a mystic. But, I'm gonna make one just in case.
Shortened backstory: born homeless with mom as only parent (father either killed, or raped mother...havent gotten it). At age of 4 or 5, a noble started kicking the crap out of my character (cause begging). Mom tried to intervene and noble killed her. This was jn an urban area and nobody jumped in (cause noble vs begger). Character let out a psychic scream (mental trauma), and was found huddled near dead mom and dead noble. City constable didnt know what happened and sent girl to slave mines. She had more tragedy there, for 4 years, and another psychic scream...she fled and stumbled into a monastery of mystics and monks....who all took a vow of silence.
They raised her, trained her, and took care of her as a child raised by a caring village. At 16 she sets off:
- V-Human, female.
- Assume level 5
- Background Urchin
- Feat: Tough
- Skills: V-Human (Perception); Background (Slight of Hand, Stealth); Class (Insight, History)
- Awakened mind seems appropriate.... what else?
She will want to keep her powers hidden as long as possible. If people confuse her for a low lvl monk or fighter (she will wear robes and have a spear) great. She will know hand gestures, to speak....though most will have bo clue. Clearly she can use telepathy, but wont share that for a bit.
Id like her to be able to do some fun destructive stuff, but overall....supporting the group could be fun... or debuffing the enemies.Last edited by furby076; 2017-03-20 at 06:38 PM.
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2017-03-18, 07:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: What are some mystic builds y'all have cooking up?
I finished my mystic last night. I went with Awaken my disciplines are psychic assault, intellect Fortress, Mastery of force, psychic disruption, nomadic mind.
Other disciplines that are on my list to grab are.
Nomadic step, mantle of awe, giant growth or nomadic Arrow, mastery of ice or fire, mantle of command.