OOTS #1069 - The Discussion Thread

[littlebum2002]

Isn't there a thread already devoted to what the different art effects on the characters mean?

I don't think there is, but you should totally start one. I'm sure lots of people would find that interesting.

Priceless

Looks very Cyanide and Happiness-esque

I vote for some sort of sword implant for Roy. Or at least one of those swords that can be summoned to his side magically. Heck, maybe that will happen during this fight, and he'll win it by calling the Greenhilt sword to him.

I'm sure some sourcebook, somewhere, has rules for installing a magic weapon as a prosthetic.

[Unoriginal]

He is not. If he were, I would have heard of him, for I know all the things.

You haven't heard of his compositions, like "Rain Makes Things Soggy", "Picture of the Invisible Stalker: the Narration" or "Grease Is Oily" ?

[Shining Wrath]

You haven't heard of his compositions, like "Rain Makes Things Soggy", "Picture of the Invisible Stalker: the Narration" or "Grease Is Oily" ?

Is he related to Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings of Sussex?

[Squark]

For the curious, here's what all those conditions do in 3.5. I actually remembered the gist of three of them.

-Dazed: Can't take actions, but no defense penalty
-Dazzled: -1 penalty to attack rolls, search, and spot checks.
-Stunned: Drop your stuff, -2 to AC, lose your dexterity bonus to AC, and can't take actions
-Staggered: You have taken nonlethal damage equal to your remaining HP. You can take a move action or a standard action, but not both. Yeah, this one is very niche.

[Peelee]

Is he related to Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings of Sussex?

Nah, just Paul Neil Milne Johnstone.

[An Enemy Spy]

On the bright side, a page has gone by without Andi making the situation worse somehow, proving once and for all that she is a perfect captain.

[pendell]

Wooo! Elan! You rock!

:applauds madly:

As expected, Roy will not flee. But there is a crewmember able to hand him a cutlass...

... which proves to be less than effective. I guess it's a +0 weapon and none of Roy's feats work with it.

Things look bad for him. Hurry, Elan, to the rescue!

Respectfully,

Brian P.

[Stabbey]

For the curious, here's what all those conditions do in 3.5. I actually remembered the gist of three of them.

-Dazed: Can't take actions, but no defense penalty
-Dazzled: -1 penalty to attack rolls, search, and spot checks.
-Stunned: Drop your stuff, -2 to AC, lose your dexterity bonus to AC, and can't take actions
-Staggered: You have taken nonlethal damage equal to your remaining HP. You can take a move action or a standard action, but not both. Yeah, this one is very niche.

Looks like the verdict is... Stunned!

[Shining Wrath]

Looks like the verdict is... Stunned!

It would have been stunning if Elan had named it correctly.

[Chei]

Gods, I have missed Elan.

[137beth]

For the curious, here's what all those conditions do in 3.5. I actually remembered the gist of three of them.

-Dazed: Can't take actions, but no defense penalty
-Dazzled: -1 penalty to attack rolls, search, and spot checks.
-Stunned: Drop your stuff, -2 to AC, lose your dexterity bonus to AC, and can't take actions
-Staggered: You have taken nonlethal damage equal to your remaining HP. You can take a move action or a standard action, but not both. Yeah, this one is very niche.

Also don't forget about
Dazed: almost nothing is immune to it
Stunned: Theoretically a more severe condition, but like half the stuff you fight is immune.

[JumboWheat01]

That's a lot of spell slots down for the balloon. Is mending a cantrip in 3.5? That would make the situation a little LESS bad.

...Though how big of a CHA modifier would you need for at least 11 cantrip slots?


And in other news, Roy really needs to look into a glove of holding or something that would keep a weapon firmly in his hand. They fall out of 'em so easy, I wouldn't be surprised to hear he was called Butterfingers back in Fighter School.

[Chei]

That's a lot of spell slots down for the balloon. Is mending a cantrip in 3.5? That would make the situation a little LESS bad.

...Though how big of a CHA modifier would you need for at least 11 cantrip slots?


And in other news, Roy really needs to look into a glove of holding or something that would keep a weapon firmly in his hand. They fall out of 'em so easy, I wouldn't be surprised to hear he was called Butterfingers back in Fighter School.

Elan can use any of his higher spell slots for Mending (Level 0 edit: I did not recall correctly) and he has a ton of spell slots, given his CHA.

More more Edits: Edits ninja'd by GW, not sure what ends up happening, but I'm stopping.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

...Though how big of a CHA modifier would you need for at least 11 cantrip slots?

As far as I know cantrip slots aren't incremented by your relevant modifier.

As Kish reminded me earlier, that means Elan has been burning through his level-1 and maybe even level-2 slots to do the mends.

GW

[Kantaki]

At least one of them is doing well.
Okay, maybe not well, but at least the balloon is fixed.
Time to save Roy. I'm sure Elan will manage that too.

[Jasdoif]

As far as I know cantrip slots aren't incremented by your relevant modifier.

That's correct.

[TheNecrocomicon]

On the bright side, a page has gone by without Andi making the situation worse somehow, proving once and for all that she is a perfect captain.

Please, don't give the Andi Fan Club any ideas. I'm sure that somehow Andi will find a way to try and take credit for the repaired balloon to claim that she's on a roll (before the Mechane promptly slams into the next mountain).

[Hiro Quester]

I am now going to make some swoopy-star thingies to put on miniatures in our game when they have one of these conditions!

[Shining Wrath]

Since Elan is multi-class and we don't know if Dashing Swordsman progresses his spell casting, he might have only 3 cantrips per day, and maybe only 9 or 10 proper spells. A 12th (3 or 4 levels of DS) level bard would have 3 cantrips and 11 spells.

In other words, he could be out of spells or close to it.

[JumboWheat01]

As far as I know cantrip slots aren't incremented by your relevant modifier.

As Kish reminded me earlier, that means Elan has been burning through his level-1 and maybe even level-2 slots to do the mends.

GW

That's correct.

I did not know that. I REALLY need to give those 3.5 books I found a proper, solid read one day instead of just flipping through them to whatever catches my fancy.

[stsasser]

Does one-eye peg leg look Scoundrel-ish? A magical disguise...

[Doug Lampert]

I find myself wondering if the frost giant woman or her dead cohort(s) could be a paladin of Thrym. Can Thrym even have those? Or is it just simpler to assume that the whole trio are all fighters or barbarians?

3.5 base Paladin needs to be LG. But in the default setting Paladins don't actually get spells from a god and thus can worship anyone they want.

IIRC Forgotten Realms requires Paladins to have a god and get spells from the god, but also has a large number of exceptions to the "one-step" rule for getting divine spells from a god (including IIRC it being possible for a LE and CG cleric to both be worshiping Mystra at the same time as she'd been killed, the replacement went from CG to LN or something, and retained all the old clerics even if out of step in alignment).

An Evil god having Paladins isn't all that much weirder. Also, there are published 3.5 variant Paladin classes for LE (Tyranny), CG (Freedom), and CE (Slaughter).

So the answer is: of course, maybe, maybe not, it depends, or something else.

[chy03001]

Elan's growth throughout the series makes him my second favorite character and shows why he deserves the happiest of endings :-)

First place goes to the Sexy Shoeless God of War for having the most epic of D&D creeds to live by.

[Doug Lampert]

Since Elan is multi-class and we don't know if Dashing Swordsman progresses his spell casting, he might have only 3 cantrips per day, and maybe only 9 or 10 proper spells. A 12th (3 or 4 levels of DS) level bard would have 3 cantrips and 11 spells.

In other words, he could be out of spells or close to it.

Even at level 12, he'd get at least 4 more spells than you give him due to his 18+ Charisma.

Class and level geekery has him pegged at level 14 bard with 22 charisma (after items), this gives him 4 cantrips, 5 level 1, 5 level 2, 4 level 3, 4 level 4, and 2 level 5. In which case he's barely scratched his level 2 spells.

(Mind you, I think Geekery is off, they give him level 14 and 22 Charisma both so he can cast level 5 spells, and level 13 + 22 charisma is enough, which would cost him a level 4 and 5 slot; and he'd still have some level 2, and all his higher level slots available.)

[Kish]

If she was any paladin-like class, it would presumably be a blackguard. The default frost giant jarl has blackguard levels. On the other hand, to say it from the other direction, blackguard levels are default for a jarl and, as she recently alluded to, she is far from being the leader of her tribe, however personally mighty she might be.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

Well, that was fairly convenient for Roy, but I'm not complaining.

Everything about Elan in this strip was possibly the funniest thing I've encountered in a while. Such an amazing ending!

[Nupo]

And in other news, Roy really needs to look into a glove of holding or something that would keep a weapon firmly in his hand.

It's called a "locked gauntlet" and they usually run about 8 g.p. Too bad he's not currently somewhere where things like that are for sale.

[Shining Wrath]

Locked gauntlets have a downside - if Roy ever did acquire a ranged weapon it would require a couple of rounds to switch weapons.

Also, no one should be complaining about a stunned person dropping their weapon - that's part of the definition of stunned. You drop what you're holding, it lands in your space unless the DM rules otherwise (like you're fighting in water and drop a metal weapon).

[JoeyTheNeko]

is that a rules joke at the end? it seems to be a combination of rules joke and the artwork joke.

[MadPooka]

In Panel 3, does anyone know what she meant about living and dying, and also about what Roy said about another couple of days? I'm afraid I don't know what they're talking about