The LA-assignment thread II: Where The Em Dash Doesn't Exist

[Caelestion]

Ulysses is one of the most famous poems of all time.

I studied Tennyson at college and I don't recall doing that poem, so I think I'd have to disagree with you. I would say that Kipling's If or Owen's Dulce et Decorum est are much more well-known.

Whilst we're discussing British references though, how about Monsters' Raving Loony Party for the new title?

[Caelestion]

I quite like Now In HD, but you kill the joke by adding (Hit Dice) afterwards.

Another offering could be Monsters' Ball or (more subtly) Having a Ball!

(Edit: This forum has lost the functionality where if you double-posted, it automatically appended it to your previous post.)

[ExLibrisMortis]

Monsters' Raving Loony Party for the new title?

This has my vote. The political party is simply called (Official) Monster Raving Loony Party, by the way, without -s'-suffix.

[Celestia]

I studied Tennyson at college and I don't recall doing that poem, so I think I'd have to disagree with you. I would say that Kipling's If or Owen's Dulce et Decorum est are much more well-known.

Whilst we're discussing British references though, how about Monsters' Raving Loony Party for the new title?

Because, clearly, your subjective experience is paradigmatic.

[Inevitability]

I like 'Now in HD' myself.

[Caelestion]

Because, clearly, your subjective experience is paradigmatic.

Well, you were the one presenting a supposedly objective fact. Besides, if you mean "subjective experience is subjective", then just say so. Utilising purple prose doesn't assist you in burnishing coprolites more efficiently.

This has my vote. The political party is simply called (Official) Monster Raving Loony Party, by the way, without -s'-suffix.

I'm aware of that, but given that we're talking about multiple monsters, I thought it was appropriate.

[Nifft]

That we do: is there anyone who's got a name proposal?

The LA-assignment thread III: Glabre-zoo

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From the 1e Type III Demon (Glabrezu).

The LA-assignment thread III: Low-Class Menagerie

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Like a "glass menagerie", except with fewer class levels.

[danielxcutter]

So currently we have:

• Now In HD!
  
• To Analyze, To Judge, To Rate, And Not To Embellish
  
• Play Outsider Your Comfort Zone!
  
• Monsters' Raving Loony Party
  
• Glabre-zoo
  
• Low-Class Menagerie

[Mike Miller]

I like Now in HD the best

[Waker]

I'm liking either "Now in HD" and "Play Outsider Your Comfort Zone".

[Hish]

I'm liking either "Now in HD" and "Play Outsider Your Comfort Zone".

Same votes for me

[TotallyNotEvil]

Now in HD sounds great.

[Remuko]

I'm liking either "Now in HD" and "Play Outsider Your Comfort Zone".

This is my vote

[Tiri]

I like 'Now in HD'.

[Caelestion]

Now in HD is the run-away winner.

[Coretron03]

So thats 9 votes for "Now In HD" and 4 for "Play Outsider Your Comfort Zone!" and a couple 1 votes of other ones. Pretty clear who wins here.

[danielxcutter]

Must... resist temptation... to stroke ego!

[Flickerdart]

LA Assignment Thread III: Now In Dark-vision!

[No brains]

Must... resist temptation... to stroke ego!

If it will help you stay humble, I was going to suggest "Explaining Things to Daniel" as the thread title. I almost decided it would be too mean.

Am I missing a reference or is this just about rocs are big birds?

No offense, but what in the Infinite Abyss is a skeet?

Is this a joke or reference? Sorry, not that good at pop culture besides a few narrow areas.

Can I sig this?

[danielxcutter]

If it will help you stay humble, I was going to suggest "Explaining Things to Daniel" as the thread title. I almost decided it would be too mean.

Okay, point taken.

[No brains]

Okay, point taken.

I was aiming for an "okay, you got me", but it seems like I might have really annoyed you. If I went too far, I'll take down the post. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I shouldn't make a joke if it's really at your expense- it's not worth it to put a person down. I'll be more careful and respectful in the future.

[danielxcutter]

I was aiming for an "okay, you got me", but it seems like I might have really annoyed you. If I went too far, I'll take down the post. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. I shouldn't make a joke if it's really at your expense- it's not worth it to put a person down. I'll be more careful and respectful in the future.

Not that much, but it's a bit annoying, yes.

[Daedroth]

I like Now in HD the best

I like that one too

[GreatWyrmGold]

It is a reworked like from the poem Ulysses. "To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."

You know, replacing every other word kinda ruins the reference. Especially if most of the remaining words are "to".



To join the bandwagons: I like "Play Outsider Your Comfort Zone". (And "Now In HD," but my official vote is going to the former.)

[Doug Lampert]

You know, replacing every other word kinda ruins the reference. Especially if most of the remaining words are "to".



To join the bandwagons: I like "Play Outsider Your Comfort Zone". (And "Now In HD," but my official vote is going to the former.)

Yep, it's too far from the original to be recognized, I'm with Monster's Raving Loony Party; but can see why it might be obscure if people have not heard of the political party first. But I have no objection to Now in HD.

[Hackulator]

I have a question that I did not see answered in the linked post about what this thread is.

What is the power level to which you are attempting to balance these level adjustments? What I mean is, when you take a monster and give it an ECL, you are saying "this monster is equivalent to a character of this level", however depending on class, power level varies MASSIVELY within the same level. Are you equating these monsters to fighters of that level? To Wizards?

If this was answered somewhere else I'm sorry but I didn't find it.

[Inevitability]

I have a question that I did not see answered in the linked post about what this thread is.

What is the power level to which you are attempting to balance these level adjustments? What I mean is, when you take a monster and give it an ECL, you are saying "this monster is equivalent to a character of this level", however depending on class, power level varies MASSIVELY within the same level. Are you equating these monsters to fighters of that level? To Wizards?

If this was answered somewhere else I'm sorry but I didn't find it.

Having a monster be equal in power to a tier 3 character of the same level is of course the ideal, but such a thing is frequently impossible. A giant is never going to be very good at anything other than smashing stuff, and while a sufficiently large LA could theoretically push monsters with innate casting down to tier 3 I feel like such a thing is needlessly complicated (after all, regular casters remain an option).

[GreatWyrmGold]

FWIW, my analyses (which tend to be more or less aligned with Inevitability's) looks at what the monster's strengths are and comparing it to other classes that are strong at that. (If the monster doesn't have any particular strengths, that's a red flag.)

[lord_khaine]

It sounds like a good idea to compare a given monster with the other classes its most likely to compete for spotlight with.

My main concern though is that full level 20 builds are given an overtly high degree of attention. It might be how builds are regularly evaluated here on the forum. But the problem is that really dont take into consideration where most of the gameplay will take place.

[Waker]

My criteria has been to compare it to whatever classes seem to be closest to it. Brutish monsters are compared to Fighters and Barbarians, monsters with a lot of skills and bonuses to social or stealth situations are compared to Rogues and Bards, etc. The difficulty is that so many monsters were not designed with any intention to do anything beyond "Kill medium-sized humanoids" and lack of many of the abilities needed to function properly.