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Thread: Persistent Metamagic question
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2017-04-23, 12:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Persistent Metamagic question
Can you have multiple persistent spells at one time. I got a player who has 4 different persisted spells. I thought you could only have 1 persistent spell on yourself at a time.
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2017-04-23, 12:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Persistent Metamagic question
Yes, you can. You might be confusing it with Contingent spells.
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2017-04-23, 12:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-04-23, 04:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Persistent Metamagic question
Yes, you can have as many persisted spell as you can cast. However, having multiple persisted spells in your daily routine generally requires decent investment. Note that persisted spell can be dispelled as usual.
Note that this applies only to spells made contingent through the Contingency spell or effects based on it. Other sources of contingent spell may have different limits. For example, Craft Contingent Spell (Complete Arcane) allows a number of contingent spells up to your HD.Extended signature here. Contains: 2 avatars, 3 quotes, a doggo and his friends.
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2017-04-23, 06:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-04-23, 07:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Persistent Metamagic question
Even then, it would still be possible to have as many 0th level spells persisted on a given character as she has 6th level slot, 1st level spells persisted as she has 7th level slots, 2nd level spells persisted as she has 8th level slots and 3rd level spells persisted as she has 9th level slots. Such a number is higher than 1.
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2017-04-23, 07:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-04-23, 01:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Persistent Metamagic question
Do keep in mind that the Contingency spell, the Persistent spell metamagic feat, and the Permanency spell are all different things with their own mechanics.
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2017-04-23, 01:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Persistent Metamagic question
Most of that is actually fine. Some builds (primary blasters) need metamagic cost reduction to function, and with most metamagic feats it's strong to varying degrees but not overpowered.
If your casters running around with persisted spells annoys you what you should be banning is Persistent Spell, not metamagic cost reducers.
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2017-04-23, 01:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Persistent Metamagic question
If Persistent spell is a recurring problem by unbalancing encounters make the next Boss villain prepare the spell Magical Backlash from DotU. It deals 2 points of damage per spell level affecting the target so if he has 3 1st level spells persisted and 2 6th levels then (12+3)x2 it deals 30 damage. It has a fort save for half but it is still basically the bane of persistomancers.
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2017-04-23, 02:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Persistent Metamagic question
That's less damage than a basic Fireball, and it's single target.
If buffs (persisted or otherwise) are a problem you're better off dispelling them. Unless there's a large difference between CL a targeted Dispel will always at least strip something.
A chained Dispel (or Chain Dispel at high level) even more so, while also suppressing magic items.
Unless we're talking about people running around with 10+ high level spells all Magical Backlash is the bane of is efficient action and spell slot usage.
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2017-04-24, 04:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Persistent Metamagic question
Warlock with voracious dispelling is the bane to these people. Dispel magic at will AND it causes damage when it works. In all not the best incantation but for some NPCs its gold.
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2017-04-24, 04:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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