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Thread: Combat rule question
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2017-05-03, 06:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Combat rule question
When playing a battlmind, using a feat that adds psionic damage, do I still add my strength bonus to the weapon attack? Sorry, I'm just starting to game again
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2017-05-03, 07:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat rule question
What's the feat/power? Generally yes, but Battleminds don't use strength.
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2017-05-04, 02:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-05-04, 07:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat rule question
No. Whatever the power tells you do, that's what you do. Only with the default melee basic attack or a power gained from str-based class do you do +strength modifier.
So Iron Fist does 1w+Constitution. If you were using a Rapier and had an 18 Constitution(+4 modifier) and no other options, you'd do 1d8+4 damage unaugmented. If you augmented it by 2 points, you'd do 2d8+4 damage.
(edit: and the damage would be untyped, not psionic)Last edited by MwaO; 2017-05-04 at 07:30 AM.
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2017-05-04, 09:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat rule question
It's important to note that neither of the things that you mentioned is actually a "feat". Iron Fist and Whirling Defense are both *powers*.
Also, "psionic" isn't a damage type. It's a power source, which is a completely different thing. A lot of psionic attacks will tend to deal psychic damage *but only* if they specifically state that they deal psychic damage, which neither of the powers that you reference here do (they both deal untyped damage).
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2017-05-07, 05:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat rule question
Thank y'all very much! I thought it was a bit much, but honestly couldn't argue against it. Now I can
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2017-05-07, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Combat rule question
A way to look at it is that 4e is a rule system of specific vs general. And in that context, players are given a lot of narrative control. But they're then limited to doing what they've been told they can do. With Whirling Defense, I can mark you and then you're at a penalty to attack anyone but me. And if I hit you, you don't have a choice in the matter.
And that's not absolute. Page 42 of DMG allows the DM to make rulings about what a cool idea can do - and you can also say, "Well, that seems like an interesting use near Whirling Defense, so I'll let you augment 2 throwing the brazier's flaming oil into Orc's face into every orc nearby you and you can then mark one of them."