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    Hmm...

    Okay, "easier to lose your balance" sounds like a good point.

    So boobplate at all is totally impossible without more or less negating the entire point of armor?
    It doesn't "negate the entire point." It's still armor.

    It's just worse than it would be without the boobs on it. And being less effective at its job just to look sexy puts it on the "chainmail bikini" scale. Not so far down the scale as that, but on it.
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    It doen't "negate the entire point." It's still armor.

    It's just worse than it would be without the boobs on it. And being less effective at its job just to look sexy puts it on the "chainmail bikini" scale. Not so far down the scale as that, but on it.
    Deflecting blows into the middle of your chest actually is kind of worse than just wearing regular clothes. At least those wont typically guide your enemy's weapon into center mass.
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    Deflecting blows into the middle of your chest actually is kind of worse than just wearing regular clothes. At least those wont typically guide your enemy's weapon into center mass.
    Steel is hard to cut or stab through, even if the blow gets channeled into a valley. The force will knock you back more, and maybe do some blunt trauma, but it's better than nothing.

    If you said to me, "I'm gonna hit you with this sword, you can wear a boobed out breastplate or your street clothes," I'd take the breastplate.

    Good armor > Bad armor > no armor as far as protecting you from sharp things.
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    Steel is hard to cut or stab through, even if the blow gets channeled into a valley. The force will knock you back more, and maybe do some blunt trauma, but it's better than nothing.

    If you said to me, "I'm gonna hit you with this sword, you can wear a boobed out breastplate or your street clothes," I'd take the breastplate.

    Good armor > Bad armor > no armor as far as protecting you from sharp things.
    Being hit dead center with a baseball bat still has a moderate chance of killing you. The danger is not necessarily the cutting power of the sword.
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    Being hit dead center with a baseball bat still has a moderate chance of killing you. The danger is not necessarily the cutting power of the sword.
    A hit that would be deflected into the center of the chest by boob plate is a hit that would still have impacted the side of the chest without it- endangering rather than the sternum, the heart and lungs. I would still take my chances with the boob plate over no armor.
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    Being hit dead center with a baseball bat still has a moderate chance of killing you. The danger is not necessarily the cutting power of the sword.
    But it's better than a cotton sweatshirt is what I'm saying.

    It's a bad design. But a badly designed piece of steel is better than no steel at protecting you.

    And swords are not baseball bats. The blunt impact is pretty low, the blade is light(ish) and balanced near the hand to be agile, not near the point of impact like a hammer. It relies on the edge or point to do most of the damage.

    That's why we can do HEMA with realistic weighted swords with a blunt edge and not die all that often. I wouldn't do HEMA sparring with realistically weighted maces. Because those are just maces.
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    We're looking for a narrow condition in which a non-lethal strike becomes potentially lethal because of the shape of the armor plate, and I'm not certain that there is such a condition.

    An otherwise ineffective strike would continue to be ineffective, and otherwise penetrating strike would continue to be penetrating. The shape doesn't magnify the force of the strike or anything, and a regular plate isn't notably more deflective in shape.

    The only real thing I can see would be if the manufacture of the shape compromised the integrity of the material at the joint, which is I think probably a non-factor.



    It's silly, sure, to stamp a plate into the shape of breasts. However, I don't believe doing so would relevantly compromise the mechanical protective effects of the armor, and it definitely wouldn't be a "oh, you shouldn't do that if you want to live".

    The most compelling reason, besides aesthetics, to not wear a boobplate would be because armor isn't worn against the skin. There are multiple layers of cloth and chainmail armor underneath the outer plate, and underneath all of that I'm not convinced that my breasts would be well enough defined to place a shaped plate over.
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    A hit that would be deflected into the center of the chest by boob plate is a hit that would still have impacted the side of the chest without it- endangering rather than the sternum, the heart and lungs.
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    Whenever you wear armour, even if it somehow did not affect mobility at all, it would sometimes catch things that would not have touched you without it - simply because it enlarges the target box that is you. Certain kinds of boob plate would be particularly egregious about this.

    I would still take my chances with the boob plate over no armor.
    Me too. And I don't think anyone in this thread is saying they wouldn't, outside of some pretty specific circumstances. But I wouldn't make boob plate for combat purposes if I had a choice. Fill the gap between the boobs instead. It's quicker and easier to do, and makes stronger armour that is easier to maintain. Make something for parade purposes you can put over it, made of textile, if you absolutely must have boobage.

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    And yet somehow they manage to have more believable breastplates, and some other bits of the armor, than a lot of fantasy-genre artwork...
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    Awesome, where did you find those?
    I don't know who made them - someone posted them on RPG.net, so I'm sharing them here.

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    Long time lurker here. Need some help. Playing a wolf scarred small aasimar paladin. Basically, I need halfling sized, dog faced male, preferably with armor and shield
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    Sounds nice!

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    The rollerblading knights are by Johnson Ting.
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    I made slight modifications to some art you all put me towards finding awhile back. Funny how as DM you might get an idea that bounces around in the background of the story for a few months. The original whoever created it is 1,000% better than my clone stamped hack but I felt a calmer version was best for my group.

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    I made slight modifications to some art you all put me towards finding awhile back. Funny how as DM you might get an idea that bounces around in the background of the story for a few months. The original whoever created it is 1,000% better than my clone stamped hack but I felt a calmer version was best for my group.

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    I'm seeing them, at least right now.
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    I'm seeing them, at least right now.
    It worked on my pc but not my cell. Interesting.

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    I have a bit of a specific request--

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