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2017-06-17, 06:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-06-17, 07:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
Yes, might work better if you always lead it.
I wonder if a dollamancer can make animated suits of armour? So it's simultaneously an enhancement magic item and a golem? That way if you get incapped during a battle it can autopilot you back for healing? Or if you die it can keep fighting and send you back for uncroaking/decryption.
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2017-06-18, 01:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
Well, now that the plan's been revealed, of course it won't go off like this. But I do recall that Isaac has read Parson's book somehow.
Spoiler: Charlie's GemsIt's probably easier to just only have each moneymancer convert a certain amount to gems, possibly spaced at different times, so that none of them ever even know how much his treasury could really be.
It's also possible that all those gems are just part of his payments from a long time in business and he's never used a moneymancer for himself at all. Just to be extra sure.
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2017-06-18, 10:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
Yes, it's just that Parson wouldn't know that Isaac had read it. The idea is something that Parson thought of recently in TV, so he wouldn't have had a chance to show it to Isaac. I assume Isaac used some advanced Lookamancy to read it. The notebook doesn't seem to be the lookamancy-proof one that Parson got from Janis.
Actually, as far as we know, the gambit involving the gems and the Iron Man tank could even be two separate plans and maybe Isaac only knows about the tank one.Last edited by eschmenk; 2017-06-18 at 11:08 AM.
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2017-06-18, 12:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-06-18, 07:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-06-18, 08:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
Oh, OK, it says "Flower Journal" in the name of the relevant updates. It artwork on page 247 didn't make it look like it was the same journal, but apparently it was. Still, I doubt that Parson knows that Isaac knows anything about Parson's plan yet. And yes, Isaac probably read Parson's memories when Parson tried to contact him.
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2017-06-19, 04:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
Yeah, Parson is in the dark regarding DeIsaac's involvement. I just noted, that his notes from Flower Journal are the same as here. I doubt that's a coincidence. That said, you are right and the original Signamancy (aka Flower) Journal looking different. To outsiders it looks like a sketch journal (no lines or margins), to Parson it looks like a notebook (there are lines and margins).
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2017-06-21, 08:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
New Page.
Spoiler: ThoughtWell I think the best summary of this page came from a comment at the page site itself-- "Yay, now we have two Jacks!"
I'll admit that I'm curious to see where this is going. Rigging a rigged portal?
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2017-06-21, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
Wild conspiracy theory time. Charlie has, basically, a VCR or I guess DVR for his 'Dish. It records the thinkamancy conversations he wants to monitor so he can view them later. He needs Ivan to get it working again. It seems like something that could be very useful in sorting out Big Think at the moment. Will Charlie try to tempt them with life? Is that the part of Charlie's operation they need to take over to save themselfs?
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2017-06-24, 09:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
New comic.
Well, that's weird. First part if Parson and then after image it switches to Roger.
I think Parson suspects GM now even more, since if they had magical foolamancy they could have protected GK at any point during battle of Portal Park.
It's moments like this I pity i didn't vote for slow story title
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2017-06-24, 10:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
The end of what Son? The story? There is no end. There's just the point where the storytellers stop talking.
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2017-06-24, 11:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-06-24, 12:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
If by communication channels you Ivan being busy, possibly, but he?/they? is in a fragile state. And it's ok for him to Refuse a call.
If by communication channels you mean actual writing - not really They are only good at confusion.
What slows down is essentially reiterating stuff we know, and not doing anything novel.
Erfworld, teaching you how to NOT write, since Book 3.Last edited by -D-; 2017-06-24 at 12:21 PM.
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2017-06-24, 02:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
I'm guessing Roger didn't even try to contact Ivan and simply lied to Parson about it. He's not there to help them. Why waste juice on this call when he can lie and say he was refused.
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2017-06-24, 03:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
The "---" marking the scene change is right there after the image, so if it weren't for the presence of the image in precisely the right location to mask the scene change, it'd probably be fine.
That said, personally I'd establish a new POV character via casual name dropping in the first paragraph after the scene change, if not in the first sentence.
Everything Ivan said to Parson through Roger would become something Roger knows to the exact same degree Parson does. It'd be easy recon.FeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
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2017-06-24, 03:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
I mean the books and hats are useless because Charlie listens in, I mean Jed won't talk common, I mean Parson not having the usual warlord comms channels so he didn't personally learn Charlie's wealth. He still thinks 30 million schmuckers is a lot, but Charlie has over twenty (thirty?) times that and he doesn't know, even though he commands two units that do know it. Maggie having no juice is another channel that's not available for a silly reason.
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The end of what Son? The story? There is no end. There's just the point where the storytellers stop talking.
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2017-06-24, 03:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
Maybe, but if so it almost backfired. Maggie was trying to go through Jed to get an order to Ivan to answer the next time Roger tried. Parson could have easily found that there wasn't a first attempt if that had worked out.
Roger might have wanted to contact Ivan because that way he could learn more about Parson's plans. Also, it would have been less likely to backfire on him if he did.
Yes, and probably would have been interested in what Parson would say, too. Even if Parson just asked questions, he might have been able to deduce why he asked them.Last edited by eschmenk; 2017-06-24 at 03:33 PM.
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2017-06-24, 04:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
I'm more curious about the fact that Parson apparently forgot about Bonnie's deal with the Great Minds. And wasn't Roger's plan to cut Parson's string as soon as he saw him? What's with the subterfuge all of a sudden?
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2017-06-24, 05:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-06-24, 05:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-06-24, 05:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
I couldn't remember that he knew either, but I reread some pages and found it on page 184. That's when Jack and Parson had sneaked out of their cells. I think Rob probably forgot, too.
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2017-06-24, 06:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-06-24, 06:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
How did she manage to tell them all this without penalty anyway? Parson can't even tell Roger his own plans without being afraid of penalty, but Bonnie can give away all of Charlie's secrets and defenses to one of Charlie's enemies with no penalty? That's not very consistent.
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2017-06-24, 06:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-06-24, 07:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
No. There's no way that makes sense. She's still a GK unit that is breaking the deal. By that logic they could just create a bunch of decrypted units and form up an assault party on Charlie with no penalties.
Also the Dirtamancer and Dollamancer are explicitly constricted by the deal, so this is obviously wrong.
The Deal also doesn't specify directly mentioning things Charlie has.Last edited by Anteros; 2017-06-24 at 07:28 PM.
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2017-06-24, 07:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
Bonnie is not attacking a member of Charlescomm by telling the Great Minds the layout of his city. That isn't part of the Deal.
They're restricted from attacking units. Not talking about anything regarding Charlie.
He's not. Parson is blocked from talking about the contents of the deal with anyone. Much like Wanda, Jack and Jillian were with the deal they worked out with Charlie in the past. A fact that stopped for Jack when he died and came back to life.
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2017-06-24, 07:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
You're moving the goal posts here. You said she wasn't under the deal, when it's clearly incorrect. It doesn't really matter in the context of the larger conversation, but still.
The deal with Jack was with him as an individual. It's pretty clear that it's a different situation than a deal with an entire side. If they ended GK as a side and re-founded it to get out of the deal it would be more similar.
"Well...Charlie stuff. The layout of the Charlescomm's portal room and their traps" he said, kind of wincing. He half expected it to cost him one of these gems for saying even that much.Last edited by Anteros; 2017-06-24 at 07:50 PM.
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2017-06-24, 08:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
No I'm not.
The others are just conjecture. I said from the start that talking about things Charlie has does not incur a penalty. Obviously it doesn't. No one's been pinged talking about the forces of Charlie. The details of the deal are spelled out.
Originally Posted by Declaration of Non-Aggression
You're conflating two things.
Talking about the Deal (its terms etc) incurs a penalty. (This is covered by "Non-disclosure of the details of the agreement, until 90 turns after its end.")
Talking about Charlie's forces does not incur a penalty. (Note above that no such thing is spelled out anywhere in the contract)
Bonnie is doing the latter. Not the former. Parson doesn't know the latter and can't talk about the former. That's why no penalties are being wracked up by Bonnie but would be by Parson. They're two separate things.Last edited by Razade; 2017-06-24 at 08:01 PM.
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2017-06-24, 08:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Erfworld Thread X: A Series of Unfortunate Cliffhangers
Ok, most of this is besides the point so I'm going to ignore it. All this brings us back to my original point of WHY IS PARSON WORRIED ABOUT BEING PENALIZED FOR SAYING HE WANTS INFORMATION ON CHARLIE?
It's either a part of the deal, or it's not. So either it's bad writing earlier where Bonnie gave out all the information without penalty, or it's bad writing now because rules against sharing that kind of information was never part of the deal. I agree with you that it's not part of the deal, but it seems like Rob forgot what the deal actually entails when he wrote this.Last edited by Anteros; 2017-06-24 at 08:24 PM.