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In Torment, if you get Mazed by her you find evidence of being in that Maze before (you forgot, amnesia and all that)... sort of indicates that at least sometimes mazes are reused (perhaps just for the same person?)
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Hello, Book of Vile Darkness lists Warp Touch as "one of the worst effects of raw chaos..."
How common/easy to contract is this condition in Limbo?
Would it be common to see Githzerai afflicted with Warp Touch in their cities?Last edited by Dalmosh; 2018-02-10 at 06:34 PM.
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That's because you assume that the Upper Planes are a reward, or the Lower Planes are a punishment, or that the realm of any given God is either. The moralistic spin doesn't work here - this is simply a case of like being drawn to like, and for those who learn to appreciate it and what it implies about the cosmos, even the Abyss can be a paradise. No matter how you slice the onion, the onion's death will be an ascension of a sort.
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I swear I did this exact question already. Actually I think it might even have been in this thread.
That sounds like a thing from Pathfinder. It definitely sounds like the sort of thing they would list out, especially with "pornography" in there. I cannot fathom any logical reason why lemures would come for such a thing - or, frankly, why one would planar bind a lemure.
Rumored, canonically, I do not believe so. I have my own ideas about that, of course, but not sufficiently developed to be worth sharing.
Bad people go to places, and their nature makes those places bad. Good people go to places, and their nature makes those places good. It has nothing to do with "justice."
Depends. Small villages occasionally celebrate festivals of the hunt, sacred to Malar, whose clerics in cold and harsh frontiers may supply those villages with a winter store of meat. It's doubtful that the vast majority of these people would actually hold to the ideals of Malar. Similarly, a traditional feast to welcome spring or summer or autumn doesn't make one a devotee of the corresponding gods.
What of PCs and heroic NPCs who actually get to speak to a deity?
What a pity.
I always assumed that everybody whom she mazes gets their own maze. Then I read in Dragon magazine that she has one maze for everybody. Then I searched the Internets, and her Wikipedia article (which I didn’t even know existed) claims that she has a number of mazes that she reuses.
Is the truth of this matter known? Does she create a new maze every time, similar to how the Maze spell works? Or are there one or more mazes just hanging around, waiting to be stocked by her?
And, if the latter, are there known instances of beings meeting in a maze?
I would expect it to be fairly rare, since contact with raw chaos isn't at all common in Limbo. Generally you're either in contact with chaos you or someone else has shaped into something, or in contact with chaos that has shaped itself (temporarily) into something. Rarely something pleasant, given how often one's choices are being on fire, drowning, or getting crushed and suffocated... but you take my larger point: on Limbo, you're more than likely either protected from raw chaos entirely, or already dead or dying from something else that the chaos has roiled up before you're ever at risk of experiencing warp touch.
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Re: afroakuma's Planar And Other Oddities Questions Thread VII
That sounds like a thing from Pathfinder. It definitely sounds like the sort of thing they would list out, especially with "pornography" in there. I cannot fathom any logical reason why lemures would come for such a thing - or, frankly, why one would planar bind a lemure.
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1. Why do Mathonwy, Mellifleur and Velsharoon live in Gehenna? What about the plane appeals to these three, who are generally more cerebral and magically-inclined than their other deific neighbours?
2. Is there any particular significance to a deity having realms in multiple Outer Planes, like Hecate's realms in Minauros and Pluton?
3. What do the yugoloths generally think about altraloths?
4. This is probably out of the scope of this thread, but is there Afrocanon about Shiva's realm in the Negative Energy Plane?
5. Other than Ravana, are there other rakshasa powers? Do Vibishana and Kumbhakarna exist in D&D?
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In general, yugoloth don't like altraloth. Altraloth are considered corruptions of the pure evil, which the yugoloth think they are. Besides that an altraloth is bound in debt for some time to the night hag that transformed them, which means that they are beholden to something else besides the cause of the yugoloth.
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Do we know anything about (or have any examples of) the written form of the Chaos/Slaadi language?
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Just came across the Nathri (which apparently aren't a 3.X thing), and I'm curious how serious a threat they pose to all those wizard created demiplanes in the Ethereal Plane.
And related: How much threat do the Githyanki pirates pose to those demiplanes on the Astral?
Also, if one day we found that the "Outside" where vestiges reside was in fact the Ordial Plane - what would that imply (if anything) about Ahazu the Seizure?"1/0" is a paradox; in a way that "0/1" is not. [...] One is something, and Zero is nothing. [...] 1/0 is a cry out against mere logic and efficiency. Stuff exists. All existence, all truth, cannot be ultimately justified: it can only be described, explained, and enjoyed. 1/0 is illogical. 1/0 is irrational. 1/0 is impossible. 1/0 is transcendentally unfair. 1/0 is true. Deal with it.
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Re: afroakuma's Planar And Other Oddities Questions Thread VII
I was reading Manual of the Planes, and it says a cleric who enters an alternate material plane (For example, Eberron Cleric entering Forgotten Realms) can receive power from his domains as long as the two material planes are connected. And since the two are always connected via the Shadow Plane, one could argue that as long as the cleric in question gets in touch with the domains in Eberron or Greyhawk, he can receive his divine spells from Eberron or Greyhawk instead of a Deity even though he's in Faerun.
Anyone else know of other ways to circumvent the deity requirement in Forgotten Realms?
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What about the plane appeals to these three, who are generally more cerebral and magically-inclined than their other deific neighbours?
Velsharoon would probably find a similar appeal to the plane, especially on the still-volcanic but outwardly cold layer of Mungoth, where power is concealed beneath a veil of death.
As for Math Mathonwy, given the god's character, it's likely that he takes a rather smug delight at hosting his elegant and fair realm behind the lava veils of Khalas, a personal and insular respite totally detached from the relentlessly inhospitable plane without.
2. Is there any particular significance to a deity having realms in multiple Outer Planes, like Hecate's realms in Minauros and Pluton?
3. What do the yugoloths generally think about altraloths?
4. This is probably out of the scope of this thread, but is there Afrocanon about Shiva's realm in the Negative Energy Plane?
5. Other than Ravana, are there other rakshasa powers? Do Vibishana and Kumbhakarna exist in D&D?
Check the Spawning Stone, perhaps. Beyond that, nothing springs to mind.
If they're secured against conventional Ethereal entry, then essentially nil. Of course, it's entirely possible that there exist advanced nathri that can penetrate demiplanes they aren't supposed to. If one doesn't bound their demiplane against Ethereal entry, then the nathri will eventually get in, in significant numbers, at which point they pose about as much threat as any other swarm of Small aggressive humanoids largely bereft of class levels would.
And related: How much threat do the Githyanki pirates pose to those demiplanes on the Astral?
Also, if one day we found that the "Outside" where vestiges reside was in fact the Ordial Plane - what would that imply (if anything) about Ahazu the Seizure?
Don't be from the Realms. That's the one.
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How do you handle alignments on dnd? In general I play law and chaos as basically, want the planes to continue to exist in roughly the same state (laws of physics style) and chaos wants to remake everything. Though remake into what varies.
But I know this is not exactly the standard model, so I was wondering how you run it.
EDIT:What is The Shadow Lie?Last edited by Rogthnor; 2018-03-04 at 06:22 PM.
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The Shadow Lie? Have you perchance been browsing old threads?
It's a concept I once stumbled over on some website. I can't find the site anymore, but the concept is as follows:
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I had been browsing old threads actually. I saw someone mention it offhand (it might have been you) and got interested.
Also while I'm here, @afroakuma, who's belief shapes the planes? Is it just creatures from the prime material that provide worship to gods and shape the planes based on their beliefs? If Examplars could do it then surely the literally infinite demons would have turned all the planes into the Abyss right?
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The obvious counterpoint to your second sentence is that there are also infinite baatezu, yugoloths, gehreleths, modrons, slaadi etc.
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What generally happens to people who fall off the bottom of one of the mountains of Gehenna?
What is on the underside of these mountains, and would the volcano's directional gravity attract or repel you from such a surface?
If you looked ("up?") at the middle of these surfaces, would you be able to see the molten centre of the active volcanoes?
If you could withstand the temperatures and pressures, would contacting such a crater (if such a thing exists) pull you up into the interior of the mountain?
Why is Gehenna called the Bleak Eternity? Does it have something to do with the void around the volcanoes?Last edited by Dalmosh; 2018-03-11 at 10:47 PM.
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First, Gehenna doesn't have situationally directive gravity. There's only one direction: down. What sense would there be in the horribly steep descent, if gravity wouldn't drag you into the abyss?
Second, the volcanoes are infinitly high. You can't ever reach the bottom or the peak. You may be able to see them, but reaching them? Impossible. This can lead to the result that someone stumbles down and down and down and down the slope, until every single bone is broken and every single bit of flesh has been srapped of. Gehenna is such a friendly, funny place, isn't it?
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With all due respect, that's not the case. Gehenna's volcanoes are explicitly finite in size though "far larger than the largest known land mass on the Material Plane" (MotP, 111). Which means that they do have physical tops and bottoms that you could potentially reach.
Moreover, the volcanoes and the void they float in are defined here as having "normal gravity" similar to the Material Plane. So "down" is only a factor on the slopes themselves, and beyond this the inference is that the gravity is directional based on mass.
And its void and what happens to people who fall into it are very poorly defined, hence my question. The inherent nature of the plane would suggest "very bad stuff that you want to avoid", but I'm looking for specifics. Bad for who exactly and in what way?
How about flying natives like Phiuuls or Hellwasps that travelled into this space? Or sentient constructs? Or very powerful undead?
This infinite void doesn't seem to have any particularly negative properties, and is apparently commonly traversed, as there are many inhabited earthbergs and moonlets around the volcanoes.Last edited by Dalmosh; 2018-03-09 at 01:50 AM.
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If each of Gehenna's peaks is "far larger than the largest known land mass on the Material Plane", that means that each and everyone is much larger than Olympus Mons on Mars, let alone construing that clause to mean that each peak is larger than, say, continental Russia or the United States. They might be technically finite, but even the fiends could probably teleport for hours on end and still never reach the top (or the bottom).
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Questions: are the various elemental planes (water, earth, fire, air) required for the corresponding element to exist? As in, can fire exist because the elemental plane of Fire does? If so, does destroying any of the four planes effectively robs the universe of that particular element?Extended signature here. Contains: 2 avatars, 3 quotes, a doggo and his friends.
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Well, there can't be any meaningful difference, otherwise we wouldn't be talking about infinity.
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Eh, infinity is weird. There are larger and smaller infinities. There are infinite rational numbers between 0 and 1, but a larger infinity of rational numbers between negative one million and one million.
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Does the Quasielemental Plane of Mineral hold any special interests to psionically inclined characters/powers? I'm wondering if it's one of the few places in the wheel actually pre-disposed to psionics due to a relative abundance of Crystal Node's (and Emergent Caldera's where the plane meets Magma).
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Not quite. The infinity that is all integers and the infinity that is all rational numbers (numbers expressable as a fraction) are the same size - so 0 to 1 and -1M to 1M are the same size.
However if take the infinity of irrational numbers (i.e. not just those expressable as a fraction) between 0 and 1 it is a bigger infinity.
(The basic premise is that the irraitonal numbers cannot be counted while the rationals can therefore it must be a bigger infinity.)
I think for the infinitte hordes of the outer planes, for everything except the chaotic plans the infinity would have to be a countable one (because it is counting creatures) so the same size. With Limbo and the Abyss I don't think that that is an assumption safe to make...Last edited by Khedrac; 2018-03-22 at 01:08 PM.
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Two unrelated questions for you, Afro.
1) Some Vestiges were once gods, and a vestige briefly manifests (if only partly) in reality when bound (or, at least, that is my understanding of how it works). Given this, would the Lady of Pain have any specific rules regarding binding Vestiges in Sigil?
2) Would the Spawning Stone in Limbo be considers an artifact of Law, given that its purpose is to force order into Chaos?Zio Avatar by acelegna
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Hey Afro...
I have a question, that you might very well have answered before, but here goes.
You have mentioned using the Great Wheel over the Great Tree cosmology... in Forgotten Realm 3.X.
My question is about the Feywild (which I think is 4th thing, but my question is simply... does it exist in 3.X in forgotten realms or more precisely in the great wheel at 1374 DR?
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