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    Default Re: Base Class Contest Chat Thread V: I Scored at the Top of My Base Class

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    Quick question, is there going to be an extension on the contest? I only ask because it looks like there are only three complete classes at this point with three others missing all or most of their class features.
    Whoops, I forgot all about this contest. I'm travelling for the next little while so might not be able to post, so I'll give feedback now (on the assumption that there's an extension).

    Linguist - needs some tidying up, the text is a bit dense. SOme abilities (like being able to duplicate supernatural abilities of monsters) need to have strict limitations e.g. XP costs or somesuch.

    Lexithurge - could also use some trimming, but looks quite functional and I really like the Cultural Studies ability and the capstone.

    Word Teacher - looks extremely creative! Just needs a simplified explanation for the class features.

    I'm not going to edit my own entry any more, just ignore the Gnoll language entry. Darn hyenas just don't have any flavour!

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    I forgot this in the midst of trying to do like a gazillion other things at once. Yes, there's an extension, and I'll work out how much longer (probably about a week or two extra) when I'm not mega-tired.

    The main thing I need to do with Word Teacher is just make a plain-text version. I'm sure that the current version is hilarious but it's probably not totally legible.

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    Default Re: Base Class Contest Chat Thread V: I Scored at the Top of My Base Class

    Quote Originally Posted by rferries View Post
    Lexithurge - could also use some trimming, but looks quite functional and I really like the Cultural Studies ability and the capstone.
    Out of curiosity, when you say that the Lexitheurge could use some trimming, do you mean simplifying the ability descriptions or dropping some abilities entirely?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jormengand View Post
    The main thing I need to do with Word Teacher is just make a plain-text version. I'm sure that the current version is hilarious but it's probably not totally legible.
    I'd definitely appreciate a plain-text version of the class, especially given the class' unique mechanics.
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    Two-week extension from the prior deadline, and a plaintext word teacher. Ta-da!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabenson View Post
    Out of curiosity, when you say that the Lexitheurge could use some trimming, do you mean simplifying the ability descriptions or dropping some abilities.
    Simplifying the abilities, or breaking them down into multiple smaller abilities - divine lexicon could be broken into two chains of opposed abilities.

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    With recent updates to jorm's status on the site, we will need a new MC for the contest, anyone feeling the part?

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    Default Re: Base Class Contest Chat Thread V: I Scored at the Top of My Base Class

    I suppose I can give it shot; if I do I'll probably extend the deadline until 8pm EST 8/31 9/3 for personal ease of posting and to give people a little extra time to finish their classes.
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    The Speaker For the Dead is... a thing. I have the spell list mapped out, just need to put it all in alphabetical order, but no spell is truly off-limits to the Speaker, due to the Universal Truth ability. I want more class features, but I'm not coming up with much. I know a real PEACH isn't possible without that spell-list done, but does the concept/chassis seem balanced? It has as many spells per day as a wizard, casts spontaneously, and has a full BAB, light armor, and a d6 hitdie, but knows fewer spells than the sorcerer, and can spend its "spell" slots to initiate maneuvers as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sengmeng View Post
    The Speaker For the Dead is... a thing. I have the spell list mapped out, just need to put it all in alphabetical order, but no spell is truly off-limits to the Speaker, due to the Universal Truth ability. I want more class features, but I'm not coming up with much. I know a real PEACH isn't possible without that spell-list done, but does the concept/chassis seem balanced? It has as many spells per day as a wizard, casts spontaneously, and has a full BAB, light armor, and a d6 hitdie, but knows fewer spells than the sorcerer, and can spend its "spell" slots to initiate maneuvers as well.
    Honestly, I'm having a little trouble parsing the Truths ability so it's hard for me to comment on that. Do the Truths represent the Speaker's spells/maneuvers known, or is it a separate mechanic of some kind? If it does represent spells/maneuvers known, why does the speaker then have a separate maneuvers column?

    As for the chassis, I'd probably strongly consider dropping the planned BAB from full to 3/4 just on the basis that the class also has access to 9th level spells.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabenson View Post
    Honestly, I'm having a little trouble parsing the Truths ability so it's hard for me to comment on that. Do the Truths represent the Speaker's spells/maneuvers known, or is it a separate mechanic of some kind? If it does represent spells/maneuvers known, why does the speaker then have a separate maneuvers column?

    As for the chassis, I'd probably strongly consider dropping the planned BAB from full to 3/4 just on the basis that the class also has access to 9th level spells.
    The slots represent Truths, which can be used as maneuvers or spells, and the columns labeled Maneuvers and Spells represent how many are known, with the column labeled Truths usable to learn either one.
    Edit: I will be editing for clarity soon.


    With a 3/4 BAB it would have a worse chassis than every other full caster: lower hitdie, fewer spells known, and worse armor than the cleric (and no turning), fewer spells per day than the sorcerer, fewer spells known than the wizard, maybe on par with a druid with no wildshape.
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    Default Re: Base Class Contest Chat Thread V: I Scored at the Top of My Base Class

    Also, you left a few all-caps SPEAKERS OF THE DEAD in there. CLASS NAME is only all-caps to make sure peeps see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Temotei View Post
    Also, you left a few all-caps SPEAKERS OF THE DEAD in there. CLASS NAME is only all-caps to make sure peeps see it.
    I think I've done that every time lol.
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    I think I've done that every time lol.
    I think so too. I was going to say something a while back but I never got around to it. Story of my life.
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    Alright, with Jorm gone we now only have two completed classes and a few others that are still WIP, so I'm going to push the extension back to 8 pm EST 9/21. Hopefully this will give everyone who's still working on their classes a chance to finish.
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    I'm review ready, I could add more, but it is play ready.
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    Default Re: Base Class Contest Chat Thread V: I Scored at the Top of My Base Class

    Alright, the Voting Thread is now up.
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    Default Re: Base Class Contest Chat Thread V: I Scored at the Top of My Base Class

    Just reminding everyone voting ends this Friday, so if you haven't voted yet please do so.
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    Default Re: Base Class Contest Chat Thread V: I Scored at the Top of My Base Class

    And voting is now closed, the winner is The Guide by rferries, with my own Lexitheurge and Lanth Sor's Scribe tying for second. If anyone has any suggestions for the next contest please submit them.
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    Huzzah! Some ideas:

    Aquatic Campaigns
    Desert Campaigns
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    Cyberpunk
    Fairy Tales
    Hallowe'en
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    Maybe Harvests? Allows for soul reapers, farmers, Halloween-themed stuff, even herbalists and such.
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    All Hallow's Eve
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    I'd vote for Harvest myself
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    one more vote for harvest but i dont know i poop a class or not.
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    That puts us at 3 for Harvest and 1 (2 if I count it being on the list rferries offered) for Halloween.

    I'll put up the information for the next contest this Friday unless someone wants to do it sooner, in the meantime feel free to keep voting for themes.
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    I just realized he had cyberpunk on there, how about "Technology through a Mirror Darkly"

    Anything form cybermen, ORK Oddboyz, Cyberpunk Hacker, Tech Priests, Mechromancers, or even Freddies mechanic or robots.
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    Alright, it appears that Harvest is still the leader votes-wise so...thread
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    Okay, so. Hm, I might actually compete this time if time is going to allow me.

    I am likely not going to go do Halloween as a theme though. There's more to Harvest than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almarck View Post
    Okay, so. Hm, I might actually compete this time if time is going to allow me.

    I am likely not going to go do Halloween as a theme though. There's more to Harvest than that.
    Well, if there aren't any other entrants by the time we get closer to the deadline than I'll be strongly inclined to give an extension.

    Regarding our existing entrants;
    Harvester; mechanically my main concerns would be the the dead levels after level 12 as well as some concern regarding the power-level of Trick or Treat. While the provisos do cut down on some of the most severe potential abuses, it still gives access to highest available spells 3 + Cha mod times a day. Another potential issue is that Dark Grace gives a bit much right at level 1, I'd be inclined to split up the AC and save bonuses and move one or both to slightly higher levels.

    Zenzenmann; I'm honestly not all that familiar with the Mythos system, so this will be interesting for me to judge. For the moment, however, the class is going to need more Mythos and Excellencies before I can make a real evaluation.
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    Another potential issue is that Dark Grace gives a bit much right at level 1, I'd be inclined to split up the AC and save bonuses and move one or both to slightly higher levels.
    I concur, I would do something like 'A.C. equal to your class level or Cha mod, whichever is lower'
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    Can you add the Contest tag to the thread? I couldn't find it earlier because the contest thread lacked the right tag.
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