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2017-07-16, 08:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
Barbarians as a class are all about reckless aggression, having limited armor and their signature ability actively reduces their ability to dodge.
So why do they get the ability to uncannily dodge attacks they can't see coming and react more quickly to traps?I consider myself an author first, a GM second and a player third.
The three skill-sets are only tangentially related.
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2017-07-16, 08:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Feb 2011
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Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
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2017-07-16, 08:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Feb 2008
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Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
Because Conan was known for his reflexes and animal cunning.
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2017-07-16, 08:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Mar 2004
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- In Christ Jesus
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Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
Because it makes their charts feel better.
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2017-07-16, 10:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Mar 2016
Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
Just because that Barbarians prefer an offensive combat style (AC penalties) doesn't mean that their senses are dull.
Imho they have perfect natural combat senses like a wild animal.
The Barb sees the blow always coming, it's just his pride that doesn't always want to dodge the blow and instead hit harder once it's his turn again to act.Shivering Tornado of Death Arcane Channeling Optimization
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2017-07-16, 11:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jun 2009
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- Brisbane, Australia
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Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
I believe it's also an port of their OD&D %chance ability to negate a thief's backstab attempt.
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2017-07-17, 03:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Nov 2007
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2017-07-17, 04:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2007
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- Norway
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Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
Technically every class was the thief until the thief was written in and basically ruined every other class.
Damn thief. You ruined everything!
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2017-07-17, 04:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2007
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- Switzerland
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Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
Of course, they don't really share much else with Conan.
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2017-07-17, 07:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jun 2008
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- Saratoga Springs, NY
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Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
I have limited familiarity with Conan, does he actually use rage and reckless offense add part of his signature style? I had always heard him described as the quintessential fighter/thief.
Feral reflexes or hightend senses don't grant animals (or almost any other creatures that have them, e.g. elves) uncanny dodge. A
human barbarian had objectively worse senses than an elven ranger, but has much better ability to dodge unexpected attacks, traps, and fight against coordinated foes.
Why?I consider myself an author first, a GM second and a player third.
The three skill-sets are only tangentially related.
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2017-07-17, 08:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jun 2016
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- Schwäbisch Hall
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2017-07-17, 09:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Oct 2010
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Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
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2017-07-17, 09:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2012
Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
Because Fighters have access to heavy armor and bonus feats.
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2017-07-17, 03:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Mar 2016
Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
Because the senses involved and the way they are used differs.
The elven ranged is trained to "spot forms, structures & colors".
While the barbarian is trained to react to attacks that he can't see. He might hear them in the last instant and have fast enough combat reflexes to react to it. Or he feels the vibration on the earth or the air-pressure from the charging enemy.
Both have trained their senses, but in different ways and with different results. And neither of em can copycat the other. Neither one is overall better, they just have different specializations.Shivering Tornado of Death Arcane Channeling Optimization
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TO: BoBaFeat Body outside Body & Void Disciple 4 to break the game.
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2017-07-17, 04:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jun 2013
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Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
If it made sense, it wouldn't be uncanny.
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2017-07-17, 11:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jun 2008
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- Saratoga Springs, NY
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Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
I consider myself an author first, a GM second and a player third.
The three skill-sets are only tangentially related.
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2017-07-18, 01:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2007
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- Norway
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2017-07-18, 06:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2014
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2017-07-18, 09:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Oct 2010
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Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
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2017-07-18, 12:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Oct 2010
Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
The answer is always Conan.
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2017-07-18, 12:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Oct 2010
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- Dallas, TX
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Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
Original D&D, without any supplements (and therefore before the Thief class), had four PC races: Humans (called Men, as in Tolkien), Elves, Dwarves, and Hobbits.
The paragraph about allowing other PC races used balrogs as the example.
The monster list included ents and balrogs.
Tolkien was a major influence from the start.
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2017-07-19, 01:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2007
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- Norway
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2017-07-19, 07:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jul 2017
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Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
I see the uncanny dodge ability that barbarians and rogues get as something like an 'always ready for trouble' type thing. Rogues are skulky, sneaky type characters, always on the lookout of getting caught. Barbarians are smashy-meatshieldy type characters who are always on the lookout for the next fight (while a straight-up fighter might be too busy brushing up on his tactical maneuvers).
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2017-07-19, 07:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Jun 2013
Re: Why do barbarians have uncanny dodge?
Because Conan dodged the venomous spider in the Tower of the Elephant