OOTS 1085 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

[Laurana]

Yay for passive-aggressive Durkon to the rescue!

[johnbragg]

Go Durkon! Whoo!

Um, first? Really? huh. EDIT--Ninja'd! Feel better, somehow. Lotta responsibility that I don't think my post was living up to.

[Shennynerd]

He was able to pull up the memory of the stone and its purpose without thinking of this crucial contingency by association? This is good. Durkon's learned how to keep things from the spirit.

[littlebum2002]

Ahh, gotta love nonviolent, do nothing resistance.

Edit: Can someone remind me what strip the stone is from again?

[Ruck]

Well, from the Order's perspective, this is a much preferable callback to the stone being given freely than the one I suggested in the last thread.

[Vulsutyr]

Love how Durkon* expects Durkon to gladly help him.

[Agi Hammerthief]

"You didn't ask" in other context I hate that line.

[Onyavar]

Ahh, gotta love nonviolent resistance.

Woww.

Let me guess. The Order of the Stick will rush to the door, desperate to prevent the slaughter of the delegates...

...and only by opening the door, they will let the vampires into the temple. They simply need to turn into smoke and waaaaiiiiiit for Roy to arrive.

[gooddragon1]

Reminds me of Jonas Orion in Warhammer 40K dawn of War 2 after you fight him (if you have to fight him).

[Jasdoif]

Huh, Durkon's like a reverse Sumner. "CONGRATULATIONS, YOU HAVE LOST A RUNESTONE."

Can someone remind me what strip the stone is from again?

If you mean Roy's, 2¹⁰.

[Shennynerd]

Stone's first appearance: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1024.html

[Garwain]

Important philosophical moment:"The whole purpose of the door is to open" Hmm.. never really thought about it like that. I always assumed it's whole purpose was to remain shut. Depends on your view I guess. Or your side of the door. Just like a glass can be half-empty or half-full.

Ah well - I'm sure we will find the truth in the middle....

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Can someone remind me what strip the stone is from again?

This one.

desperate to prevent the slaughter of the delegates...

The vampires are not there to slaughter the delegates, and Roy knows it.

Important philosophical moment:"The whole purpose of the door is to open" Hmm.. never really thought about it like that. I always assumed it's whole purpose was to remain shut.

Neither. The purpose of a gate is to restrict access. If its "whole" purpose was to remain shut, you're better off with a wall.

GW

[The MunchKING]

Important philosophical moment:"The whole purpose of the door is to open" Hmm.. never really thought about it like that. I always assumed it's whole purpose was to remain shut. Depends on your view I guess. Or your side of the door. Just like a glass can be half-empty or half-full.

Ah well - I'm sure we will find the truth in the middle....

Depends on what kind of door it is I guess. House/room doors are made to Open. Big Heavy Castle/Fort Doors are made to stay shut and keep invaders out.

[ref]

Durkon wins this one! Go team Cleric!

[FlawedParadigm]

I wonder if Rich is getting tired of the colour red at this point from the internal Durkon strips.

[Anarion]

Learning a little bit more about the contours of the vampire vs. Durkon relationship is interesting. This suggests a wider separation than I might have thought, where the vampire doesn't get memories as needed and doesn't eve know if there's a relevant memory available. I had thought, given his earlier review and use of memories, that he had either spent a lot of time reviewing them or had been getting some vague sense of when he might need memories. But seems he was just guessing.

[Ridureyu]

All that Durkula needs to do is hit the door with a wrench. That should solve the problem.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Learning a little bit more about the contours of the vampire vs. Durkon relationship is interesting. This suggests a wider separation than I might have thought, where the vampire doesn't get memories as needed and doesn't eve know if there's a relevant memory available. I had thought, given his earlier review and use of memories, that he had either spent a lot of time reviewing them or had been getting some vague sense of when he might need memories. But seems he was just guessing.

He's getting complacent. He reviewed a lot of memories when he was trying to pass for Durkon, but now that he is out in the open, his contempt for Durkon is causing him to become sloppy. It was implied stated it takes years months to completely review all of the memories, and he doesn't have the time. His lack of "connect the dots" ability also means he'd have to go through all in sequence, rather than go to the important ones for the situation at hand.

GW

[Forikroder]

man durkon knows how to handle him well

[Windscion]

Go Durkon! Go team Dwarf!
Hahahaha you suck, Greg!

Yet one more proof that Greg lacks even the first clue about being a true dwarf. Namely, the true part. Not surprising, but nice to see it backfire on his tainted corpse.

[Reboot]

OotS are going to enable Durkula to continue, aren't they?

[Psyren]

He's getting complacent. He reviewed a lot of memories when he was trying to pass for Durkon, but now that he is out in the open, his contempt for Durkon is causing him to become sloppy. It was implied it takes years to completely review all of the memories, and he doesn't have the time. His lack of "connect the dots" ability also means he'd have to go through all in sequence, rather than go to the important ones for the situation at hand.

GW

What Greg needs is a forumite rules lawyer to request memories on his behalf.

"Show me every way you know of to access that room, and nothing else" might have helped.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

OotS are going to enable Durkula to continue, aren't they?

Maybe? There might be other ways in, messier and more dangerous. But at the very least, this is a delay, which is good for the OotS, regardless of what happens next.

What Greg needs is a forumite rules lawyer to request memories on his behalf.

"Show me every way you know of to access that room, and nothing else" might have helped.

(emphasis mine)
Actually, that might have been precisely what Durkon showed Greg: Durkon accessing that room with that stone, and not the bit about the stone's rules

GW

[Keltest]

OotS are going to enable Durkula to continue, aren't they?

I would be surprised if it comes to that. There are enough clerical spells that create passages in rock that team vampire can still make progress here. If they cant go through the door, make their own.

[GudBelkarIsGud]

That is an amazing character right there! Even in death, Durkon manages to be quietly awesome - and literally, in this case. I'm also happy to see that Durkon's no longer susceptible to the guilt-tripping that Greg tries to throw his way. It's the rare case where character growth happens even after the character shuffles off his mortal coil. Keep it up, Durkon!

[Shennynerd]

What's interesting is that the stone didn't immediately crumble, which I assumed would be the case, but only once it started being used to unlock the door. Wonder if that'll come into play later.

[PH7]

Yeah Durkon's back! And he's doing what dwarves do best: nothing. (in a good way).

[Kantaki]

Yay, Durkon!
You rock!
Go to yer bosslady Durkula!