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2017-07-31, 12:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
The end of what Son? The story? There is no end. There's just the point where the storytellers stop talking.
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2017-07-31, 12:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
Then why bring it up in the first place when the guy has been nothing but kind. If we're talking weak morals you can build a larger case for Renee than Elliot
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2017-07-31, 01:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-07-31, 01:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
I think you'll find "He's strong so he could be a rapist more easily than someone who was weak to be a rather weak position. By that logic, Roy could be a rapist, or Hinjo, or hell, Durkon is wandering around in Platemail all the time, he must be strong as well. See why that's way too much of a stretch?
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You really see him as such a doormat that he could be pressured into being a rapist? You realise this is a guy who works as a bouncer, yes?
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2017-07-31, 01:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
No relationship works without full consent, and the coercive capacity of strength has nothing to do with that, only with the avenues by which a (pseudo-)relationship may be pursued without consent. And avenues are certainly available to Brun--I'm not even convinced that she couldn't employ the same means, where the scrawny Clinton is concerned.
We have no reason to believe Elliott, or anyone in the comic, would pursue those avenues. Frankly, I find it disturbing that this is the first thing you think to comment on when the prospect of Elliott getting involved with Clinton appears in the comic. Nothing in the comic itself points in that direction.
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2017-07-31, 01:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
I think its certainly possible that Renee could and would push them into doing things that neither side is comfortable doing but also doesn't want to admit to being uncomfortable doing to the other party. Elliot is freaking huge, it isn't at all out of the question that somebody would go along with him to avoid getting him mad at them, even if we the audience know that is unlikely to occur.
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2017-07-31, 02:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
The hell kind of discussion did I start, people?
I think it's better we don't delve further into the subject.
Instead.. Elliott blushing is pretty cute.
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2017-07-31, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
The slow progress of the online comic strip format seems to so often lead people to react vigorously to what they think is going to happen, instead of what actually has happened -- or even what actually ends up happening.
It is one thing to suspend your disbelief. It is another thing entirely to hang it by the neck until dead.
Verisimilitude -- n, the appearance or semblance of truth, likelihood, or probability.
The concern is not realism in speculative fiction, but rather the sense that a setting or story could be real, fostered by internal consistency and coherence.
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2017-07-31, 03:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
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2017-07-31, 04:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
To be fair, if there's a gotta-have-them-all sexuality mentality thing happening (might be, might not), it's not impossible. Whether or not Clinton would be down for that's another story, same for Brun, and then whether or not this is actually a reveal and not messing with shipping dynamics...Dang it, Jeph, we have too much speculation time and too many options! I need closure!
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2017-07-31, 06:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
I seem to have just witnessed this thread move from "Renee is the worst conceivable person ever because [REDACTED]" to "Elliot is big and imposing and might rape Clinton and/or Brun." Am I hallucinating or...
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2017-07-31, 09:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
Well, ignoring the bollocks discussion that's happened recently...
...'kay, Renee? I'm glad you've got that option?i am going to make it through this year
if it kills me
i am going to make it though this year
if it kills me
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2017-08-01, 08:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
And just 24 hours later in real time, a moment later in comic time, she says she's not going to meddle.
Sheesh.
The amount of worked-up outrage that a single update can generate... even in the middle of a scene... I guess we really do live in an "outrage culture" now. Ugh.It is one thing to suspend your disbelief. It is another thing entirely to hang it by the neck until dead.
Verisimilitude -- n, the appearance or semblance of truth, likelihood, or probability.
The concern is not realism in speculative fiction, but rather the sense that a setting or story could be real, fostered by internal consistency and coherence.
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2017-08-01, 08:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
It took one page for this thread to become a trainwreck.
I have no idea what either of you are talking about.
You can say bisexual, it's okay.
Also, what are you talking about
Elliot came out as bisexual. Immediately we had a gay panic concern that he might rape Clinton. This thread is a trash fire.
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2017-08-01, 01:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
"Fujoshi" is the Japanese word for "yaoi fangirl." The implication being that upon learning that Elliott was bi, Renée immediately stopped seeing him as her big buff soft coworker and friend, and instead a piece of meat to take part in her vaguely homophobic sexual fantasies.
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2017-08-01, 02:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
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2017-08-01, 02:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
Nah its still homophobic. its taking someone's sexuality and reducing it down to something for their own sexual gratification. Its the same kind of thing that gets #lesbian tags blocked as nsfw cause straight guys flood them with porn. It doesn't quite fit with how we lump it in as a "phobia" but thats the word we use for some reason to describe the systemic oppression of queer people.
Anyway I hope this does play out towards a polyamorous relationship, they're vastly underrepresented in media especially a kind like this. Its also the absolute top tier resolution of a love triangle situation (followed by "the two people being fought over realized its too much hassle and date each other" and "everyone agrees that it never could work out and they all date or dont date different people whatever makes them happy")Last edited by The Extinguisher; 2017-08-01 at 02:30 PM.
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2017-08-01, 02:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
It doesn't make sense on several levels.
Regardless of anything else, it's not a term that really fits in this case.
Say what you will about Renee's possible fantasies (and I think even those were speculation on the part of those eager to hate her, I don't recall it coming up in the comic enough to stand out)... but slapping "homophobic" on them sounds more like trying to tar-and-feather people with terminology, than a functional use of the word, or functional description of those types of fantasies.Last edited by Max_Killjoy; 2017-08-01 at 02:33 PM.
It is one thing to suspend your disbelief. It is another thing entirely to hang it by the neck until dead.
Verisimilitude -- n, the appearance or semblance of truth, likelihood, or probability.
The concern is not realism in speculative fiction, but rather the sense that a setting or story could be real, fostered by internal consistency and coherence.
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2017-08-01, 02:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
I mean it does, I literally just described how it does. Yeah sure, if we want to play "technically correct semantics wars" homophobia is just a fear of gay people but thats not how the term gets used. For better or for worse thats the word we use when we're talking about injustice and systemic oppression of gay people. And that type of situation is very much an injustice and part of the systemic oppression of gay people. It enforces heterosexuality onto gay people by making wlw about men and mlm about women.
You're free to use another word to describe it (orientationism? sounds bad) but homophobia is a word that gets used that wayThanks Uncle Festy for the wonderful Ashling Avatar
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2017-08-01, 02:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
The end of what Son? The story? There is no end. There's just the point where the storytellers stop talking.
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2017-08-01, 03:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
Last edited by Max_Killjoy; 2017-08-01 at 03:45 PM.
It is one thing to suspend your disbelief. It is another thing entirely to hang it by the neck until dead.
Verisimilitude -- n, the appearance or semblance of truth, likelihood, or probability.
The concern is not realism in speculative fiction, but rather the sense that a setting or story could be real, fostered by internal consistency and coherence.
The Worldbuilding Forum -- where realities are born.
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2017-08-01, 04:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
It's one thing to keep the ins and outs of your fetish between you and you Internet Service Provider. It's another to apply it to, living, breathing people. "Fujoshi" implies the latter.
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2017-08-01, 04:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
As that actually what's happened with Renee, or are people jumping to conclusions? Am I forgetting some sign of this sort of thing from her, other than "squeeing with delight" at the thought of two people being attracted to each other? ( A reaction never expressed by any straight person about any two other straight people, ever, in history, right? )
Last edited by Max_Killjoy; 2017-08-01 at 04:58 PM.
It is one thing to suspend your disbelief. It is another thing entirely to hang it by the neck until dead.
Verisimilitude -- n, the appearance or semblance of truth, likelihood, or probability.
The concern is not realism in speculative fiction, but rather the sense that a setting or story could be real, fostered by internal consistency and coherence.
The Worldbuilding Forum -- where realities are born.
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2017-08-01, 06:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
We seem to have begun talking past each other at some point. Beelzebub1111 was the one who interpreted Renée's excitement over her friend's crush as fujoshi-ism, and I retorted that I think that's a far stretch, though not truly unexpected since a lot of people seem to interpret Renée's actions as harshly as possible because [REDACTED]. And then it was Fawkes who had no idea what a fujoshi was in the first place, so I explained the basic concept.
And then there was some discussion of what is or isn't homophobia.
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2017-08-01, 06:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
I don't know about the rest of you, but my somewhat ambivalent opinion of Renee is slanting toward bemused liking thanks to the latest comic.
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2017-08-01, 07:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
It is one thing to suspend your disbelief. It is another thing entirely to hang it by the neck until dead.
Verisimilitude -- n, the appearance or semblance of truth, likelihood, or probability.
The concern is not realism in speculative fiction, but rather the sense that a setting or story could be real, fostered by internal consistency and coherence.
The Worldbuilding Forum -- where realities are born.
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2017-08-01, 07:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
The part about Renee was just the continuation of certain folks in the thread not liking her to the point where they interpret hee every action to be as grossly immoral as possible, as opposed to her set baseline of "mildly jerkish" to "harshly bull-headed."
As for the other, It'll be better if I just PM you.
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2017-08-01, 08:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
There's a good tumblr post about why gay men find the fujoshi thing to be problematic.
The fact that we jumped from "Elliot is bisexual" right to "non-consensual sex" is pretty f@#$ed up, and somewhat ties into the above. Especially since no-one brought it up when we were told Elliot has a crush on Brun, since all of the same arguments about Elliot's size etc still apply...
And with that, I respectfully ask we go back to talking about the comic.i am going to make it through this year
if it kills me
i am going to make it though this year
if it kills me
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2017-08-01, 09:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
wait hold up
So that means:
THIS JUST RAISES FURTHER QUESTIONS
So because Elliot is muscular, he's only allowed to be the bottom in same-sex relationships?
What?
(also this can't be stated enough, consent is never optional, and when you specifiy that it's optional in one specific instance you're kind of implying there are other instances where its not)
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2017-08-01, 09:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content 11: It's Like Seeing a Unicorn
Winslow no longer wants to be an iPad. If he ends up in a humanoid body, what are the chances Pintsize does as well?
Also would Pintsize have to change his name of that were the case?