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    So here's the thing: Hanners may not need an assistant, but she has two different friends that are running two different small businesses that could probably benefit from labor being paid for by someone else. Will Hannelore try to convince Tilly to help Dora or Faye?
    I'm not sure it would take all that much convincing..

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    Im pretty sure dora has admitted to being kinda bad at running a business properly, forgetting stuff, things like that. Having an assistant to follow her around going "Remember ms bianci, you have to grind 50 lbs of coffee beans for the bakery of doom store by tomorrow" or other things of that nature, would be handy for her. Faye doesnt really have any need of one either atm, her and bubbles are only just getting started and so are hardly swamped.
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    Wouldn't that be illegal, though? Tilly is paid by Mrs.Chatham to be a PA for Hannelore; if she ends up as receptionist for Union Robotics, or as Dora's Gofer, and not being paid by them to do so, surely that would be some kind of tax-related shenanigan?

    I don't know, the US concept of tax and payroll is a bizarre and alien thing, but unless she's working for free as a volunteer then it sounds like the IRS might be interested to know about it.... Not to mention that Mrs.Chatham might not like paying her daughter's PA to work for someone else, and Faye/Bubbles can barely afford their own rent, let alone the wages for an employee.
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    On the one hand, I am fascinated by a bathing procedure that takes 90+ minutes and wish to know what is involved.

    On the other, the details may be too intimate, unusual, and disturbing to share. This DOES shed light on Hanners' reluctance several weeks ago to take a shower before going to bed, given her exhaustion at the time.

    I wonder what Tilly / Taffy is going to do while she's bathing. And why Hannelore, a precision freak who has shown no problems remembering people's names in the past, continues to make that mistake.

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    Some of that time is likely spent pre-cleaning and post-cleaning the shower and the rest of the bathroom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    I wonder what Tilly / Taffy is going to do while she's bathing. And why Hannelore, a precision freak who has shown no problems remembering people's names in the past, continues to make that mistake.
    Maybe she's hungry.

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    Wouldn't that be illegal, though? Tilly is paid by Mrs.Chatham to be a PA for Hannelore; if she ends up as receptionist for Union Robotics, or as Dora's Gofer, and not being paid by them to do so, surely that would be some kind of tax-related shenanigan?
    Realistically, yeah, but in a cartoon, it could be hand-waved.
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    She doesn't want to take a vacation. She wouldn't want to work for someone else, I think. Her job is to badger Hanners into accepting "Mom is always right".

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    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post

    I wonder what Tilly / Taffy is going to do while she's bathing. And why Hannelore, a precision freak who has shown no problems remembering people's names in the past, continues to make that mistake.
    Because Tilly is actually the clone of her childhood friend Taffy. Her mom thought it would be a great idea!
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    I think this is the closest Hannelore can get to being rude...

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    And why Hannelore, a precision freak who has shown no problems remembering people's names in the past, continues to make that mistake.
    My assumption was that she was doing it on purpose.

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    My assumption was that she was doing it on purpose.
    I don't think Hanners is that passive-aggressive...

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    I don't think Hanners is that passive-aggressive...
    Not normally, but I could see her lashing out like that when very frustrated.
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    For the love of the gods, Taffy...

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    Taffy / Tilly is GOOD. But really, she's going to have to be able to disinfect the coffee shop and everywhere else Hanners goes for this to work.

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    I'm not sure whether it's a plot point, that Hannelore's biggest complaint about that outfit is that it'll get dirty rather than it being the same outfit (and hairstyle) as her mother.

    Either Tilly is fully aware of Hannelore's preferences - which she has so far suggested to be true, by her attitude and references so far - and also has the added benefit of Winslow's guidance and chose to ignore them, or it was a deliberate attempt to get Hannelore more "Chatham-ised". The former makes her a pretty poor PA, the latter makes her a manipulative spy, and it frustrates me because Jeph probably meant it as just a quick Easter Egg...
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    I'm not sure what the benefit of sketching an outfit is supposed to be.
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    I'm not sure what the benefit of sketching an outfit is supposed to be.
    Neither do I, but it is very common in the fashion industry. I was to an exhibition of famous designers recently where, next to each dress, was the original sketch that started the process of the dress. I think it is the equivalent of sketching out pseudocode to help drive the conversation of design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    I'm not sure what the benefit of sketching an outfit is supposed to be.
    Tilly was aware enough that going into Hanners' closet would drive the latter nuts and end her employment opportunities right there. So she did a sketch instead to give Hanners ideas. On the one hand, that deference to and respect of your employer's boundaries is excellent, and shows she's on the ball regarding Hannelore's mental issues. On the other, she doesn't have a lot of practical knowledge about working in a coffee shop..

    (Could Tilly be a trained psychiatrist Mom is trying to slip in under Hanners' radar to help her get better?)

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    I guess it's still a step up from a mechanized boyfriend :D
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    I'm not sure whether it's a plot point, that Hannelore's biggest complaint about that outfit is that it'll get dirty rather than it being the same outfit (and hairstyle) as her mother.

    Either Tilly is fully aware of Hannelore's preferences - which she has so far suggested to be true, by her attitude and references so far - and also has the added benefit of Winslow's guidance and chose to ignore them, or it was a deliberate attempt to get Hannelore more "Chatham-ised". The former makes her a pretty poor PA, the latter makes her a manipulative spy, and it frustrates me because Jeph probably meant it as just a quick Easter Egg...
    Its not like Mom Chatham has a particularly unusual fashion sense or anything. She wears business formal, which is almost certainly what Hanners would be wearing to a job if she didn't get exploded upon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    Neither do I, but it is very common in the fashion industry. I was to an exhibition of famous designers recently where, next to each dress, was the original sketch that started the process of the dress. I think it is the equivalent of sketching out pseudocode to help drive the conversation of design.

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    It makes perfect sense if you're designing and creating a new outfit.

    It makes less sense if you're just getting dressed for work.
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    It makes perfect sense if you're designing and creating a new outfit.

    It makes less sense if you're just getting dressed for work.
    But Taffy clearly intends it as more the first than the second - she's not expecting that style to be already present in the wardrobe, and is kinda suggesting she'll go and purchase it, if approved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    But Taffy clearly intends it as more the first than the second - she's not expecting that style to be already present in the wardrobe, and is kinda suggesting she'll go and purchase it, if approved.

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    But Taffy clearly intends it as more the first than the second - she's not expecting that style to be already present in the wardrobe, and is kinda suggesting she'll go and purchase it, if approved.

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    What makes you say that? The implication to me seems to be that she knows the contents of Hanner's closet from Winslow, and from that knowledge selected an outfit, which she then drew up a picture of because she cant actually assemble it for her.
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    This constant mistake in names, with Hanners not reacting when she's corrected, can't be just passive aggressiveness. Not in front of Dora. Something's wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eee View Post
    This constant mistake in names, with Hanners not reacting when she's corrected, can't be just passive aggressiveness. Not in front of Dora. Something's wrong.
    It's really bugging me to be a continuos thing. A one off joke is fine, but this is stretching it way too much for me. Unless Hanners knows Tilly from somewhere else as Taffy, there really isn't any need for this. Unless this is leading to a Taffy/Toffee joke at the end.

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    Unless this is leading to a Taffy/Toffee joke at the end.
    It might be leading up to that joke, put it'd be a bit of a... ... stretch.

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    To be honest, passive-aggressive seems to me like the only decent explanation. Maybe she doesn't notice herself, though.. Once in a while I catch myself doing that..
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    Maybe Tilly is just speaking too quietly to be understood.
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