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    Bastion? It's a fairly simple game mechanically, it'll teach her some stuff about how RPGs work, and the story is being constantly fed to you by narration that changes according to what you're doing. It also looks beautiful if you like that sort of cartoony style. When you say you only have a 3DS and a Switch, though, do you really not have any sort of PC?
    Hm. Never actually played Bastion. But yeah - currently on family vacation, only reason I'm currently in proximity to mum, so I've got what I can carry. Which does not include a desktop computer, though it does include a Chromebook that could maybe handle classic emulation.
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    Bastion's a bit on the hard side.

    Throw basically any Kirby game at her. It's adorable and incredibly fun.
    There's an idea! I've got three of them on my 3DS (Amazing Mirror from the Ambassador thing).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwertystop View Post
    Hm. Never actually played Bastion. But yeah - currently on family vacation, only reason I'm currently in proximity to mum, so I've got what I can carry. Which does not include a desktop computer, though it does include a Chromebook that could maybe handle classic emulation.


    There's an idea! I've got three of them on my 3DS (Amazing Mirror from the Ambassador thing).
    I'd trend against Amazing Mirror since it's not the best Kirby game and is extremely Metroidvania in style, and expects you to juggle three AI partners. What other ones do you have?


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    Quote Originally Posted by LaZodiac View Post
    I'd trend against Amazing Mirror since it's not the best Kirby game and is extremely Metroidvania in style, and expects you to juggle three AI partners. What other ones do you have?
    The two that are actually for the 3DS. Was probably going to go for Triple Deluxe.
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    Bastion's a bit on the hard side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwertystop View Post
    The two that are actually for the 3DS. Was probably going to go for Triple Deluxe.
    If you don't mind spending a bit of money, picking up an old ds and a couple copies of Super Star Ultra might be worth it. Because you can basically go through the entire game co-op, and it's pretty fun. Starts off easy, learning the ropes, but there's a pretty reasonable difficulty slope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwertystop View Post
    The two that are actually for the 3DS. Was probably going to go for Triple Deluxe.
    Triple Deluxe and Robobot are both fantastic entry points, yeah.

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    Okay, "challenging". Look binch I played it with the keyboard and mouse that took some bloody effort.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LaZodiac View Post
    Okay, "challenging". Look binch I played it with the keyboard and mouse that took some bloody effort.
    So did I.

    Look, I'm not gonna claim I went through it without dying, but it wasn't exactly Dark Souls. If this is what you call hard, you've got a very low "binch"mark
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    Look, I'm not gonna claim I went through it without dying
    ...Yet you are going to recommend it as someone's first videogame ever, of any genre or platform, for some reason. Right?

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    ...Yet you are going to recommend it as someone's first videogame ever, of any genre or platform, for some reason. Right?
    Are you high? When did I say that?

    I said Bastion isn't hard, not "do it as your first game ever" -.-
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    Yeah, it was *me* that made that recommendation, and frankly I stand by it. I don't think Bastion is particularly hard, but it's reasonably short and enjoyable to play, so there are certainly worse gateway games out there.

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    Personally I'd go with either an easy platformer (Mario for example) or a basic JRPG. One of the pokemon titles, maybe. This is mostly because this is how I was introduced to gaming.

    That said, there are certainly worse choices than Bastion for a first game.
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    Am I the only one here who absolutely despises platformers? Can't stand them.
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    Am I the only one here who absolutely despises platformers? Can't stand them.
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    I know for sure if my first experience of video games had been a platformer I'd probably not still be playing them forty years later!
    So, that'll be a no, you're not the only one who doesn't like them.

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    So, that'll be a no, you're not the only one who doesn't like them.
    Really, reaction-time games aren't my thing. I cut my teeth on Civilization and the old city-builder games.
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    ...Yet you are going to recommend it as someone's first videogame ever, of any genre or platform, for some reason. Right?

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    Even this sentence has been repeated before.
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    Personally I'd go with either an easy platformer (Mario for example) or a basic JRPG. One of the pokemon titles, maybe. This is mostly because this is how I was introduced to gaming.

    That said, there are certainly worse choices than Bastion for a first game.
    Hm. Any choice for JRPG? I haven't played many - Pokemon (most of them) and Chrono Trigger and Xenoblade Chronicles. I could see enough story in PMD2, but everything else has the problem that even if there's enough story stuff it only turns up after several hours of random encounters and uninteresting questing.
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    Am I the only one here who absolutely despises platformers? Can't stand them.
    I used to like them, especially the metroidvania style. Turrican, yeah! Killed a lot of joysticks back then.

    They just stopped to be entertaining for me for the most part. No challenge.

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    I used to like them, especially the metroidvania style. Turrican, yeah! Killed a lot of joysticks back then.

    They just stopped to be entertaining for me for the most part. No challenge.
    I think I just don't enjoy that particular sort of difficulty. It's hard, for me, but it's the kind of hard that just feels pointless to me. Which I recognize isn't really objective - it's a video game, it's no more or less pointless than figuring out how to outmaneuver a difficult opponent in a strategy game - but it is what it is.
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    Sometimes we've gotta be beautiful because we want to feel good. You don't need a reason to dress up beyond wanting to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HalfTangible View Post
    Personally I'd go with either an easy platformer (Mario for example) or a basic JRPG. One of the pokemon titles, maybe. This is mostly because this is how I was introduced to gaming.

    That said, there are certainly worse choices than Bastion for a first game.
    My personal recommendation for an early game is just to find one that doesn't punish death/failure too hard.

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    Third day of wearing damn good red lipstick. At home. With no intention of going out.
    As long as you're happy with doing it, seems like good enough reason to me. I know when I was much younger, I liked painting my fingernails mostly just because of the feeling of the process, even though the odds of getting out of the house and anyone seeing it? Basically near zero.
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    My personal recommendation for an early game is just to find one that doesn't punish death/failure too hard.
    Nethack???
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    ION: It's time for a RB Time Loop trivia quiz!
    Even this sentence has been repeated before.
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    2. Who created the thread precisely one hundred instances prior to this one?
    3. In the thread with the most title changes, why were those changes (allegedly) made?
    1. "Bloodlust"
    2. Not gonna go back to the thread index just to look up a thread from the very days I joined.
    3. From what I remember, it was a joke accusation of Rawhide changing the title behind the creator's back.


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    Really, reaction-time games aren't my thing. I cut my teeth on Civilization and the old city-builder games.
    While I can enjoy the exploration part of many platformers, especially those of the kind where failing the puzzle just puts you back to just before the puzzle, grand strategy is where my heart lies as well.

    I actually got myself involved in the development of Ashes of Erebus recently. Currently it's just as a qualified bug reporter, but I might actually pick up some development work in the future when the bugs feel less scarce. Probably not before the next release, but we'll see.

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    Nethack???
    Dwarf Fortress gives you a message that "Losing is fun!" written in friendly green letters. That isn't very punishing, is it?
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    Nethack???
    I play Darkest Dungeon because I find it less depressive than reading the Financial Times/Harvard Business Review, so to speak :P

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    Dwarf Fortress gives you a message that "Losing is fun!" written in friendly green letters. That isn't very punishing, is it?
    But are they large friendly letters?
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    But are they large friendly letters?
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    Really, reaction-time games aren't my thing. I cut my teeth on Civilization and the old city-builder games.
    I agree nowadays, but Super Mario 64 is how I got started. Nowadays I'm more of a strategy and RPG guy.

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    Hm. Any choice for JRPG? I haven't played many - Pokemon (most of them) and Chrono Trigger and Xenoblade Chronicles. I could see enough story in PMD2, but everything else has the problem that even if there's enough story stuff it only turns up after several hours of random encounters and uninteresting questing.
    Pokemon's the only one of those I've played, unfortunately (I hear CT is really good). There's more to keep track of nowadays than there was when Red and Blue came out, but it's stayed relatively simple. 6 pokemon, 4 moves each, it gets more complex the more you understand, and 'dying' doesn't punish you too hard.
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    In the thread with the most title changes, why were those changes (allegedly) made?
    Huh. On checking back, it was actually the thread before the one I thought.
    Also, having checked back, the answer is mostly "Because it was funny."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teddy View Post
    1. "Bloodlust"
    "Bloodletting" actually, but close enough.

    EDIT: Chrome suggests the same thing.
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    Am I the only one here who absolutely despises platformers? Can't stand them.
    I don't despise them, but I don'tgo out of my way to play them either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qwertystop View Post
    Hm. Any choice for JRPG? I haven't played many - Pokemon (most of them) and Chrono Trigger and Xenoblade Chronicles. I could see enough story in PMD2, but everything else has the problem that even if there's enough story stuff it only turns up after several hours of random encounters and uninteresting questing.
    Do you think a pokemon game you have might be a fun intro? I liked Moon and it kept my attention well though the beginning is so very slow and hand holdy.
    I don't think ORAS or XY managed the same with their story.
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