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Thread: Good Dip For A Tempest Cleric?
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2017-08-11, 01:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Good Dip For A Tempest Cleric?
I've got a Wood Elf tempest cleric level 1 and I'm wondering what a fun dip would be. I have a longbow and a longsword at the moment. I'm open to all suggestions.
My Attributes
STR 12
DEX 16
CON 13
INT 10
WIS 16
CHA 8
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2017-08-11, 02:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-11, 02:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Good Dip For A Tempest Cleric?
+1 to what Aymon says. Tempest cleric really gets nice stuff almost every level.
And btw, don't you want to change your longsword for a rapier (or any other finesse weapon)?
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2017-08-11, 06:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Good Dip For A Tempest Cleric?
Don't listen to them, let the multiclassing flow through you!
Jokes aside: going full cleric is cool.
If you want to multiclass, that's cool too, but you should know what you want to gain from it.
You're more focused on weapon combat as i read it, and the best weapon user is the fighter. A one level dip gets you a fighting style (archery for a +2 accuracy bonus, defense for +1 AC when armored, dueling for +2 damage on onehanded attacks) and a minor self-healing feature (less useful for you as you can heal with magic, but still nice to have), another level of fighter and you get access to "action surge", a powerful feature that nets you a second action - you're better at breaking the action economy than a sorcerer, at least for one round. Three levels of fighter and you get an archetype - battle master for cool combat moves, champion for twice the crit range with weapons, eldritch knight for a slightly bigger spell list and slot progression... And if you "dip"* 5 levels you'll get an extra attack, which is good for obvious reasons.
Another option to get a fighting style as well as nature themed features and magic is a ranger dip.One level gives flavorful features and a free proficiency in one skill. You're getting access to "hunters mark" at second level, a concentration spell that gives bonus damage on a (weapon?) hit, and as a cleric with full slot progression you can upcast it (meaning you'll use a high-level slot) for more damage.
Yet another mc option: the rogue. A single level gives you "sneak attack", just additional damage for free if you use a ranged or finesse weapon (and meet certain criteria), one proficiency for free and "expertise" in two of your proficient skills, meaning you can add twice your proficiency bonus to their checks, which is nothing but awesome. A second level gives you "cunning action", which is a free disengage/hide/dash on a bonus action, nifty if you want to stay mobile.
A personal favorite: the monk. Get a second (unarmed melee) attack per round as a bonus action. It only does 1d4 (which gets more on higher levels), but it's still a good use for your bonus action. Higher level dips get you ki and various subclasses - a favorite would be the sun soul monk that can shoot radiant bolts with their dex from level 3 (reflavor that as a holy bolt of lightning for maximum awesomeness), but that's just one out of 5 official ones.
You can also dip druid for nature spells and wildshape, if you want.
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2017-08-11, 07:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Good Dip For A Tempest Cleric?
Storm sorcerer may be an okay choice. I know a tempest cleric dip for the sorc is good, reverse.. it depends, you do get the deal lightning damage, get temporary flight with 1 level though.
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2017-08-11, 08:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-11, 08:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Good Dip For A Tempest Cleric?
Any class that gets Booming Blade (Wizard, Sorcerer, Warlock) is a good dip. With your stats, I'd also recommend Arcane Trickster, but that's 3 levels and has to be taken carefully. But there's nothing wrong with full Cleric progression either.
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2017-08-11, 10:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-11, 10:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Good Dip For A Tempest Cleric?
Booming blade is great, if you're a (secondary) melee fighter. Thematic, and improves your damage. I wouldn't multiclass for it though, especially not through 3 levels. I'd get it through race (elf, half elf SCAG variant), or a feat.
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2017-08-11, 10:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Good Dip For A Tempest Cleric?
you can dip fighter legally as the requirement is 13 str OR 13 dex, is it not?
though dipping fighter I would go two levels, to get action surge. action surge just screams tempest to me.
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2017-08-11, 10:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Good Dip For A Tempest Cleric?
I would love to have a rapier but we're level 1, we played once, and started from a shipwreck so my weapon options were limited. I mostly use the bow and spellcasting to get by.
All great suggestions. I especially like the ranger dip. It's very faithful to the classic image of a wood-elf and would work well.Last edited by Wampyr; 2017-08-11 at 10:49 AM.
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2017-08-12, 01:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Good Dip For A Tempest Cleric?
You're seriously limited by what you can dip into by your stats. You can do Rogue or Druid, from the quick glance I took - maybe something else. If you boost Str to 13 you can do fighter.
You lose out on a lot by not leveling up in one class - just go through and plot out two versions - one dipped one pure cleric - and see which spells/abilities you like better.
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2017-08-12, 05:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-12, 08:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-08-12, 11:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Good Dip For A Tempest Cleric?
Two levels is really effective. You get martial weapons, a skill (including Stealth), Ranger outdoor survival/speed, a fighting style, and access to a few sweet Ranger-only spells that can be pumped up a lot with your Multi-class spell slots and not lose too much in spellcasting. If you make it Archery-focused you'll cover a typical weakness of Clerics - damage at long range.
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2017-08-12, 04:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Good Dip For A Tempest Cleric?
Hi!
Well, with your stats (pretty limitative to be honest XD), I'd say...
- Rogue: for a melee character, having great mobility is always good. If you go as far as 3, Arcane Trickster gives you Booming Blade, and one among Absorb Elements, Shield and Chromatic Orb. You also get invisible Mage Hand, Expertise and Sneak Attack.
- Ranger: if you don't fancy Cleric spells, Ranger gives you a net boost with Hunter's Mark, good offense/defense with Absorb Elements, along with a Fighting Style and extra attack (Horde Breaker) or small damage boost (Giant Slayer).
- Eldricht Knight: the most costly, but the best way to get all you need: Booming Blade AND Chromatic Orb AND Absorb Elements AND Shield. In addition to Action Surge. ;)
I would usually recommend Druid 1 because it brings many great spells, and notably damage spells, but your Domain already covers that good enough (at least for your CD) and Druid comes with armor limitation which may or not be problematic for you. If not though, it can be very fun (Wild Shape as a mouse, stealth into a surprise position, unleash a maximized Shatter or Thunderwave from a safe place, enjoy). It's also a quick way to get several great spells: long-buff (Longstrider), short-buff (Aborb Elements), healing (Healing Words > frees one slot on Cleric side), one-turn control (Earth Tremor, good for melee allies). AND good utility cantrips (Thorns Whip to get people in range, Mold Earth for cover, etc).
Honestly all are great, pick depending on taste and priority.
Mobility > Rogue, Balance > Ranger, Spellcasting > Druid, Defense > EK.
With both AT and EK being far ahead of others damage-wise because they give you Booming Blade (but you could get it with Magic Initiate or Spell Sniper feat as well).