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2017-11-22, 01:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
If you don't feel comfortable writing LGBT+ characters because you might offend people why are you writing LGBT+ characters?
Are you wondering if its okay to ask if they are Trans (none of your business, up to them to disclose) or someone you know IRL?
If its the latter I know some people value their anonymity online, so if you really want to know, ask them IRL if they use this forum.
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2017-11-22, 08:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-11-22, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
I have been unable to sleep for more than 6 hours this entire year. That's not too bad, but I often can't even get the full 6 hours.
The Sandman is being a bastard.
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2017-11-22, 10:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
You don't need to arbitrarily add more characters just to get a properly diverse batch. In fact, on multiple levels, that's a horrible idea. You're better off focusing on a tight, cohesive narrative to start off rather than trying to deeply think out bunches of characters. And given that any halfway decent novel will require a lot of revisions, a lot of editing, and frankly a lot of cutting, all this extra stuff is completely unnecessary.
If the setting takes off you're encouraged to develop characters from all across the diversity spectrum. (Although in many cases it's easier to just declare them for what they are rather than try too hard to find the "right" way to write a gay or trans or whatever character; federation level technology being able to make alterations nearly indistinguishable from being born that way might well be the easiest way to write that character.) But for right now, good writing pointers trump social justice pointers. Focus the main story now, you can broaden the setting with side stories later on down the line.
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2017-11-22, 01:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
Something I was told at school back in the 1990s and wondered if it was true... is a guy having an earring in his right ear likely to be gay?
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2017-11-22, 01:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
Was true a long time ago, when gay people had a much harder time being openly out and as such made use of little tells to communicate with other people in the know.
Might be true to some extent today, for someone who for one reason or another wants to make homage to the symbol. But while someone with an earring in just their right ear is more likely than average to be gay (most people preferring either a matched pair or none), most gay people I've met don't give a toss about archaic codes. Or, for the most part, earrings.
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2017-11-22, 02:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
I was also told this in the 90s, but I'm pretty sure that however much truth there may have been at one time, it was mostly being co-opted to make fun of boy band members and other students (who may have chosen styles based on those boy bands). Also, I seem to remember that which ear was the "gay" ear changed depending on the target they wanted to mock.
Interesting that it actually had some truth to it, though.
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2017-11-22, 03:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
Ah, no, I was just unnecessarily harsh on you. I'm sorry for my reaction, I'm sure if you do your best to have the characters be believable and fleshed out things will be fine.
Having reservations about writing affection between two men is alien to me, but I guess just try and write it as you would between two heterosexual people?
As for trans people its.... complicated. Transitioning (and the extent of the Transition) is a very personal and unique experience. There is no one-size-fits-all answer to the extent of transitioning. Some people might find it easier to identify with a character who experiences a more limited degree of transition because it mirrors the readers situation, while others would like the fantasy of the "full"* transition. I feel like as long as the text supports a degree of gender actualization and fluidity you can't fail too hard.
Please take my advice with a grain of salt, as I'm not sure I'm qualified to speak on this subject.
*Sorry, no offense meant here.
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2017-11-22, 08:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
Not what you asked about, and there's probably a good explanation, but . . . a homophobic and xenophobic dystopia that makes genetics and nanotechnology available for people to transition with? That reads as a contradiction to me.
As for whether to keep the broken-off relationship: make that decision in terms of plot, character development and interaction, tensions, etc. Failed relationships happen; if it doesn't have anything to do with the woman's trans-ness, I'd recommend giving the unfaithful guy some internal dialogue to make that clear.Last edited by AuthorGirl; 2017-11-22 at 08:11 PM. Reason: Took out a sentence that was detracting from my point.
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2017-11-22, 08:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
Last edited by ArlEammon; 2017-11-22 at 08:40 PM.
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2017-11-22, 08:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
Oh no, the characters were planned to be like that from the begining, in fact the characters won´t work if they weren´t gay or lesbian or trasgender, this facts are embeded in the narrative.
Thanks for the advices :)
I have no conscious or intellectual reservations with affection betwen two men, but i have been raised in a conservative family in a conservative country and there is some subconscious reactions that are hard to eliminate, i keep trying to educate myself tough.
Yeah, perhaps i am being too rigid with labels.
No, no, the trasgender character is from another country, like the star trek federation, i said it in the previous phrase... but perhaps i write it wrong.
I love dialogues and monologues and it can work, thanks!
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2017-11-23, 02:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
Maybe you can have someone from the homophobic country ask if they broke up with her because she's trans (although probably phrasing it less nicely) and have him be bewildered that anyone would think that.
That, or I think if you explain the circumstances of the breakup, it should be clear what the actual reason is, and it wouldn't make sense for people to assume it's something completely different.
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2017-11-23, 11:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
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2017-12-07, 02:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
Recently I saw the word "enby" used in relation to LGBTAI+ matters, and was wondering what it means?
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2017-12-07, 02:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
That's basically the case in Iran today: the government not only permits gender transitions but helps pay for them, not so much out of some progressive pro-trans impulse as out of stigma against homosexuality.
It's non-binary-- people whose gender doesn't conform to the traditional western male-female binary.
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2017-12-07, 06:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-07, 01:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
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2017-12-07, 03:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-07, 04:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
Enby can also be used as a noun, instead of just an adjective, though. Like you can call someone an enby instead of a boy or girl.
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2017-12-07, 05:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-07, 06:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
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2017-12-07, 07:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2017-12-09, 02:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
I prefer using "boygirl" for myself.
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2017-12-10, 07:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
There's - oh, Comrade beat me to it. Yeah, that's not only theoretically possible, it's a situation that actually can and does happen IRL.
Also, if everyone only wrote characters and themes they knew personally and were comfortable with, literature would get very dull very quickly. That's what empathy, research and consultants are for.The Iron Avatarist Hall of Fame!
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2017-12-11, 04:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
Good point
Edit: discovered a question: why is it (or is it? I might be totally off-base on this) . . . anyway, why is it okay to use lesbian as a noun but not gay? "A gay" or "the gays" seem to be at least a little bit derogatory from context, but "the lesbians" and especially "a lesbian" seem to be fine.Last edited by AuthorGirl; 2017-12-17 at 12:20 AM. Reason: Thought of a question!!
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2018-01-25, 04:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
This is directed more at the guys. What made you start to think you were bi? If so, what convinced you?
I've never had a problem evaluating whether a dude was attractive or not, unlike most of my male friends, and since getting back to the gym I find myself doing a lot of rubbernecking for both genders now. And it's not all "Holy **** he's lifting heavy", some of it is "He's hot."
The part that puzzling me is I have yet to get the gut punch burning sensation of raw arousal unless I'm already in a sexual situation. Taking care of myself and noticing the male actors in the "scene". The other day it just kinda hit me. Maybe I'm bi. Thoughts from those more experienced than me in this? Even if it turns out to be true nothing will come of it. I'm happily married to my wife and have no interest in opening the relationship or ending it. For me it's more of a self-awareness thing.You can call me Sivarias or Siv.
Message me some time, I'd love to hear your story, and if you want, I can even tell you mine.
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2018-01-25, 07:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-01-25, 09:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-01-26, 01:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
Woman here so a little different, but it was a combo of some fun dreams and going through my brother's yearbook (so that they were strangers to me not people I knew) and marking down whether I found the people in there attractive and their gender then putting the results into a spreadsheet. I was a geeky kid.
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2018-01-26, 01:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: LGBTAI+ Question and Discussion Thread IV: [Citation Needed]
So, this might be a really stupid question, but here goes -
I haven't met any non-binary persons yet in real life (at least that I know of), but as a public official, I was wondering how to adress them in any formal circumstances that might occur, since I obviously can't say "Mrs Jones, Mr Smith and... Johnson." The internet seems to say Mx, but I suppose that's mostly thought for written use. (How would I say that?!)
I'm fairly certain the answer will be "just ask", but, well, maybe not. What would you have others use in the stead of Mrs/Mr?Avatar made by lankybugger - Thanks a lot!