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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Ok. I don't know what "Unearthly Meins" are going to be, but I'm really looking forward to finding out.
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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Quote Originally Posted by Gideon Falcon View Post
    I'm just sad Jormungandr never got to finish his Elite Spellcaster series. They were some really cool concepts- whatever problems anybody had with him, he was definitely a good brewer.
    So, just supposing that I had managed to get its permission to continue the series - you'd be interested in that, hmm?

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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Unavenger, I'm looking forward to seeing how the Elite spellcasting system is going to be worked to be consistent with a theme of With a Single Spell.
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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaZ View Post
    Unavenger, I'm looking forward to seeing how the Elite spellcasting system is going to be worked to be consistent with a theme of With a Single Spell.
    The idea is that the forerunner only casts a single spell in each situation, because that spell gives them all the powers they need to deal with that situation. I find all of the "You get a single spell and make it better" things only really work if you either pick a spell that was obnoxiously versatile in the first place, or add a bunch of tangentially-related uses to it. So the connection to the theme is, "With a single spell [cast], I solve this problem!" not "With a single spell [known], I do all the things!"

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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Quote Originally Posted by Unavenger View Post
    The idea is that the forerunner only casts a single spell in each situation, because that spell gives them all the powers they need to deal with that situation. I find all of the "You get a single spell and make it better" things only really work if you either pick a spell that was obnoxiously versatile in the first place, or add a bunch of tangentially-related uses to it. So the connection to the theme is, "With a single spell [cast], I solve this problem!" not "With a single spell [known], I do all the things!"
    That's a very interesting interpretation and not one I at all expected. Definitely looking forward to the details.
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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaZ View Post
    That's a very interesting interpretation and not one I at all expected. Definitely looking forward to the details.
    The other thing I was considering was some kind of "Combinatoric casting" which allowed you to use multiple spell slots on a single spell, but ultimately this ended up being either metamagic abuse related or too complicated, and I couldn't see how to scale the concept over multiple levels.

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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Quote Originally Posted by Unavenger View Post
    So, the version I heard was that it revealed that it was attracted to children, this led to a flame-war, and "attracted to" got heavily misinterpreted at some point along the line with predictable results. It's about on Myth-Weavers and MinMax forums (also on Discord, which is where I mainly keep up with it) if you wanted to ask it more than that. I don't want to post a long update on its behalf about where various projects are headed because, well, we have a rule that you can't post on the behalf of banned posters. But there are ways to ask it directly, still.
    ...the heck!? I had my share of tiffs with them but that is a bit hard to take in. Do you have a link to the thread where it all went down? I've googled them but they don't seem to have posted much on the other boards you mentioned.

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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    I've also added one item and a minor artifact to the Counterfactual Caster. Comments on balance and the like for those items would also be appreciated.
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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Yay!

    I published my own.
    Good luck to all.

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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo Knight View Post
    Yay!

    I published my own.
    Good luck to all.
    Three quick comments: First, I like the idea. Second, is it necessary to have them lose all regular spellcasting? Sure, dispel magic is useful, but this seems a bit harsh. Third, you may want to specific which abilities are (su) and which are (ex).
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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    errrr... depends on your definition of 'necessary'.
    It wasn't done because of rule-ish reason. I just thought it was more fitting thematically.

    I, honestly, don't know myself which they should be. Any for or against?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo Knight View Post
    errrr... depends on your definition of 'necessary'.
    It wasn't done because of rule-ish reason. I just thought it was more fitting thematically.
    I can see the thematic appeal, but it would make them much less appealing to a player. If one is already not advancing spellcasting at all, that's already a pretty severe hit.


    I, honestly, don't know myself which they should be. Any for or against?
    They could probably all be be (ex) without any substantial issue.

    Also, I would probably specify in Reactive Senses that they must still use a dispel magic, or discard a relevant spell, etc. to counterspell.

    One other thought- if Spell Immunity cannot be voluntarily lowered (unlike spell resistance), it might make sense to say so. (Actually, the fact that you get all of these things at first level makes the loss of regular spellcasting more reasonable. If one didn't have that loss, this would look like a very tempting one level dip).
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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    You see, the initial idea was to create a character that is very reactive, and also is better at fighting casters than others, but weaker at fighting non-casters than other classes.
    So, that's why the no spellcasting. To emphasize the countering of casters when they are present, because they are present.


    Also, I would probably specify in Reactive Senses that they must still use a dispel magic, or discard a relevant spell, etc. to counterspell.
    They only have dispel magic to use.


    If one didn't have that loss, this would look like a very tempting one level dip
    what I wanted to avoid.

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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Blargh, I don't quite have enough time to finish it today. Don't suppose a two-day extension would be possible?

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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    I did think about a prc to cast a single spell in your whole life and at that moment you die permanently but your spell have setting wide effects.(like "now the setting is entirely on fire forever" or "now when someone attacks it takes 240 damage")
    But it would not be really playable(you could possibly intimidate a lot of people in doing whatever you want against the threat of inter-planar annihilation or sacrifice yourself to shield a plane from invasions forever(like stop the chtulu mythos on earth to go in your plane) but not much more).
    So by virtue of not being really playable but more a setting tool I did not create that prc.
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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Quote Originally Posted by Unavenger View Post
    Blargh, I don't quite have enough time to finish it today. Don't suppose a two-day extension would be possible?
    If no one objects, we can certainly do that. Let's extend the deadline to March 13.
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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaZ View Post
    If no one objects, we can certainly do that. Let's extend the deadline to March 13.
    I'd actually advise for extending by another week. Some only have free time on the weekends.

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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo Knight View Post
    I'd actually advise for extending by another week. Some only have free time on the weekends.
    Good point. We'll extend then to March 18 which should give everyone time.

    In that case, while we're extending that much, does anyone have any feedback on the Counterfactual Caster they'd like to give?
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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Quote Originally Posted by MrNobody View Post
    Waiting for votation to end, what will the next theme be?
    Well, the last set the most votes for theme went to Hybrid Power. Are people still interested in that?
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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    So, assuming I've added up everything correctly, The Prestidigator comes in first place with 11 points. 2nd/3rd place are a tie between the Counterfactual Caster and the Adjudicator of the Sky Tower. More Original is a tie between the Accursed and the Deadspeaker. Most Likely to See Play is a tie between the Prestidigator and the Forerunner. Best Use of Theme is the Forerunner. Congratulations to all winners. Next contest will be up soon. The theme will be: Hybrid Power.

    Congratulations to rferries, Lanth Sor, MrNobody, and Unavenger. If 2nd and 3rd place get congratulations then I should also congratulate Indigo Knight.

    As per earlier discussion, the next theme will be hybrid power and the thread for that will be up shortly. Edit: Thread is here.
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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Wrong Thread ;D
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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Quote Originally Posted by Unavenger View Post
    So, just supposing that I had managed to get its permission to continue the series - you'd be interested in that, hmm?
    YAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS. Sorry I missed the voting period, I don't frequent this site as frequently since all of the homebrew projects I was following went dead. This was one of those, though, so thank you muchly!
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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    Bookmarking this for the new contest... I have an idea. It's stupid but glorious.
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    I guess I'll amend my original statement and instead say that Pathfinder is close enough to 3.5 to spark an argument about how close it actually is.

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    Default Re: Prestige Class Contest Chat Thread I

    I'll be doing a psionics/binder class. I'm quite busy with work, so it may be a while before I post it.
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    may actually get time to make a class for this one
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