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    We're continuing with the logical progress of tech (kind of), making the world a little brighter. But a) that timing is ridiculous and b).. So... You try to be hard science and then you throw jolly old Nick at us? Screw you, guys
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    I'm chuckling at that battery. The only reason it's working so well is that they don't have to deal with the levels of power modern civilisation requires, building efficient batteries is hard and leakage will be a problem with any battery (what's the bet on that coming up in the story?)

    Really the crank is probably still better for generating decent amounts of power, although I can see how a gear system might make the water wheel efficient enough (which is the first upgrade it should have been given, not storage).

    I think the Saint Nick is just a bit of artistic licence, unless proven otherwise I'm just assuming that Senkuu is imagining it.

    Also, you go Chrome. Making logical deductions of how to apply the inventions you see, you'll be a proper engineer after this is over.
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    Glad im not the only one who though a gear system would be better for upgrading the watermill

    But of course, i guess batteries are something they will need further down the line anyway. Might as well tech further up, and leave the improvements to chrome.

    i stille think radios are a waste of their options though. Its not going to help in a head on clash with the might tribe. Crossbows, tower shields and pikes would.
    Especially the crossbows. But i guess its just once more Senguko making one of his rare mistakes, or not knowing about them since they as i recall were mainly a european weapon that filled the niche before gunpower weapons became reliable.
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    Yeah, those batteries are probably very... inefficient. But better than nothing? Though, while I'm a terrible engineer and have little imagination as to how to optimize use of their new power I will agree just NOT using it to make electricity is the better option. But it's still sci-fi, so...

    I am curious what they hope to find now, though. I mean, large scale mining might be a possibility to get more ressources but spelunking..?
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    I really like this series when it just takes a step back and does goof ass comedy with science. I love how Senku, science man, has difficulty actually making the gears so the actual craftsmen have to do it. That's like...one of the only times he's failed? And he actually has minor errors and faults in this entire chapter, showing that we're slowly getting to the point where he own actual physical skills are running out. It's cool.

    I'm 100% certain that Senku MAY IN FACT JUST BE LYING to **** with...name forgotten, the fancyboy. Like, it's not even close to Christmas and he's just doin' him a tease.

    Also, like with last chapter, I'm incredibly happy to see Chrome having more science ideas for himself. I love that Senku continues to be surprised by him. and I love the gag that as he has his idea, his "wires touching" mental picture changes to the regular idea lightbulb, because NOW HE KNOWS WHAT LIGHTBULBS ARE. That's a good gag.


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    Yeah, the lightbulb thing was cute. I mean, the whole story is full of good things, and Senku not being able to do everything (on his own) is important. Human society is based on people helping each other after all, and human advancement relies upon that.

    Fine, Senku could be lying, but nonetheless, it's one of the more stupid jokes in my book.

    More on the side... I'm sure that panel with the girls making wine in skimpy clothes was totally necessary
    I'm a bit surprised nobody invented bottling before... I mean, they had clay pots, so...
    And.. not totally convinced it's really that easy to make a working light bulb. But fine, whatever!
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    More on the side... I'm sure that panel with the girls making wine in skimpy clothes was totally necessary
    I'm just waiting for a shirtless Chrome. Only reason I'm reading the series, honest.

    And.. not totally convinced it's really that easy to make a working light bulb. But fine, whatever!
    Oh, certainly not. This series has got to a point where the basics are sound, but a lot of the problems are being ignored.


    Totally agreeing that Senkuu should probably be getting the villagers to be armed with crossbows (or potentially matchlocks, they have the requirements if they can make more gunpowder), it would give them a serious range advantage over most of Tsukasa's mooks.
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    Eh... Crossbows are way OP and using them en masse would be too gruesome... Matchlocks maybe, he has been working on guns.

    Why would you want shirtless chrome with all the Tsukasa you're getting?
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    Well yeah.. it is the whole "insanely OP" and "better than a lot of early gunpowder firearms" that made me suggest crossbows initially
    Especially since a large part of their problems is that they dont have access to the nitrate the need for gunpowder. Or for the ressurection potion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
    Eh... Crossbows are way OP and using them en masse would be too gruesome... Matchlocks mazbe, he has been working on guns.
    Oh, I certainly agree that crossbows are heavily OP for this world, but this series already has Senkuu assuming he'll be able to develop guns superior to crossbows with a little effort. Plus crossbows would be much easier for them to build right now.

    Whz would zou want shirtless chrome with all the Tsukasa you're getting?
    Are you implying shirtless men is something you can have too much off? Thems fighting words.

    Plus eh, I'm honestly not really one for Tsukasa's body type, Chrome's much more my style.
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    Oh, I certainly agree that crossbows are heavily OP for this world, but this series already has Senkuu assuming he'll be able to develop guns superior to crossbows with a little effort. Plus crossbows would be much easier for them to build right now.



    Are you implying shirtless men is something you can have too much off? Thems fighting words.

    Plus eh, I'm honestly not really one for Tsukasa's body type, Chrome's much more my style.
    I totally agree that from an outside perspective crossbows would be the way to go but narratively, it's far too easy and not half as interesting as making guns (I think). Yes, he could very easily win this war by going that route but it would make for a worse story. Or the author is saving the idea for something.

    Eh, fanservice can get too much. But I guess the amount of men in suggestive poses is still far lower than the women here.

    And, I'll admit it's personal preference but I'm not that into Chrome's body type, maybe because I'm pretty much the same. Though, Tsukasa might be a bit much. Somewhere in the middle would be better, I guess. I mean, if we talk about "the male form" with that intent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
    I totally agree that from an outside perspective crossbows would be the way to go but narratively, it's far too easy and not half as interesting as making guns (I think). Yes, he could very easily win this war by going that route but it would make for a worse story. Or the author is saving the idea for something.

    Eh, fanservice can get too much. But I guess the amount of men in suggestive poses is still far lower than the women here.

    And, I'll admit it's personal preference but I'm not that into Chrome's body type, maybe because I'm pretty much the same. Though, Tsukasa might be a bit much. Somewhere in the middle would be better, I guess. I mean, if we talk about "the male form" with that intent.
    Oh sure, from a story perspective the problems of firearms make them much better. I suspect after Tsukasa's post-winter attack is repelled the next arc will be searching for the missing gunpowder ingredients.

    Plus yeah, fanservice easily gets too much. It's half the reason I don't tend to watch Harem Comedies. I probably should have used blue text.

    The problem I have with Tsukasa is that to me he starts to get into 'stick figure with melons' territory, in that he manages to be incredibly thin and yet incredibly muscled and incredibly tall. Nothing against tall thin muscly men, but he kind of takes it to extremes.

    Then again one of my hobbies is annoying a friend by asking if he knows any hot single Chinese boys (problematically he refused to be annoyed at it), so I'm probably not the best judge on majority-appealing fanservice.
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    I'm incredibly happy to see someone this thirsty for male fanservice. Props to you, Anon Wizard, for being a shining example of greatness.

    I cannot overstate how genuine I am about this. The world needs more people who are open about stuff like this.


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    I'm incredibly happy to see someone this thirsty for male fanservice. Props to you, Anon Wizard, for being a shining example of greatness.

    I cannot overstate how genuine I am about this. The world needs more people who are open about stuff like this.
    Hey, you're welcome to ask for more fanservice if you want to nobody will blame you considering how lopsided the market is. it's just that asking here probably won't help. And that SHOUNEN jump is kind of unlikely to respond, even though there are likely lots of women reading but old habits die hard. And the general assumption is women want a different kind of fanservice, I guess. But opening up that bottle is not a good idea, I think.
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    Sun Ken Rock (drawn by the same artist) also has its fair share of male fanservice, though not as much as on the female end if youw ant to check it out.

    It stops juuuust shy of being porn on either side.

    Bonus for the main character looking like Senkuu if he got jacked and became a delinquent instead of a scientist.

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    Omg.. that does look like Senkuu's evil twin...
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    I'm... kind of sketical you need tungsten to make vacuum tubes.. but then I'm not that knowledgable about this. But I am pretty sure they just did this to have a fancy metal in the story

    Also: Did not know about Tungsten glowing in UV light. Kind of cool, I guess.
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    Actually i think their explanation for why they need tungsten for this was pretty believeable.
    Its certainly more realistic than almost everything else involved in those vacum tubes :D

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    Can't really comment on the specifics of valves, I started electronics relatively soon so I've always worked with MOSFETs and the occasional BJT. I really do think Senkuu is kind of rushing ahead, it would likely be more effective for him to concentrate on both weapons and agriculture developments rather than rushing towards radios (although I'll admit they'll be really useful).

    I'm honestly shocked Senkuu hadn't worked out that the bamboo would likely be too inflammable. But then again I don't know anything about valves, maybe you need a nonconductor in there.
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    I'm honestly shocked Senkuu hadn't worked out that the bamboo would likely be too inflammable. But then again I don't know anything about valves, maybe you need a nonconductor in there.
    I'm going to guess he assumed it would work like early light bulbs which iirc only had a cotton string (?)
    In this way, valves are really just jacked up light bulbs.. Both are vacuums where you send a current through to superheat some material. It's just one serves to reach the point where it emits light, the other emits electrons. (okay, after this they become more complicated)
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    I enjoy the fact that we're forcing Magma to play ball next little arc of the story. Lets make sure he's actually loyal.


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    This was kind of weird... like, the images kind of indicate Magma wasn't trying to kill him and he acted as he did to make Senku drop hi... but so far no proof of that. Maybe we'll get it later or I'm wrong or.. whatever.
    Also: Did Chrome just sit there and wait for six hours?!
    And most importantly: Gen is up to something..... hm....
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    Going to make the prediction now, Gen will not betray Sengoku.. he is just planning something stupidly trolly

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    Going to make the prediction now, Gen will not betray Sengoku.. he is just planning something stupidly trolly

    I find it very hard to read him.. I would not be surprised by any possible outcome. Though, a prank at such a serious time seems a bit irresponsible.
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    Though, a prank at such a serious time seems a bit irresponsible
    While at the same time, it might be just the thing the village needs. You can't expect people to be always serious and worried for months, no matter how dangerous the situation is. Considering how hard everybody's working, Gen might have figured out that in the long run, it's worth it to sacrifice a bit of time to do something of no practical value that boosts morale.

    (It's strange that Gen didn't mention it to Senkuu, since he's good at letting people do their "thing" without micromanaging, but maybe there's a surprise in store to boost Senkuu's morale too?)
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    I do think i have a good reading of him.
    He isnt a follower.. he does not want to be a leader.
    He is a trickster. He admires intelligence.
    I dont think he easily gives his loyalty away.
    But he might have done so towards the smartest man in the word.
    And he long for the comfort of the previous world. Sengoku is the only one who can restore that.

    Taking that into consideration. And his stupid grin.
    And i think a prank is the most logical explanation.
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    Ugh, maybe I should have used spoilers for that last post...

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    I'll agree to the part that they need some light heartedness and he's mischievous enough to do it behind Senku's back but I won't agree with
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    He isnt a follower.. he does not want to be a leader.
    We don't have proof of that. We know he is smart enough to know he can't beat Tsukasa or Senku, but I don't think he wouldn't take the reigns and just "rule" himself if he could (having others do the work)
    But it's true that
    And he long for the comfort of the previous world. Sengoku is the only one who can restore that.
    so he might be just joking anyway.
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    We don't have proof of that. We know he is smart enough to know he can't beat Tsukasa or Senku, but I don't think he wouldn't take the reigns and just "rule" himself if he could (having others do the work)
    But it's true that
    Well.. its mainly because i think the day to day work of ruling is hard. (im pretty certain most people in a leadership position will agree it includes solving a lot of petty drama).

    Its a lot easier to let someone else handle all the day to day work of ruling or leading, and harvest more or less the same rewards just by being the spindoctor of whoever are in charge.
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    Well that was a chapter. I liked it.

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    As has been said, Magma definitely did try to save Senku and ****ed up, and he's acting like a **** to cover up his failure because Magma's not a BAD guy, really, he's just a ****ty person who hates himself. It was a fine chapter.


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    Well that was a chapter. I liked it.

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    As has been said, Magma definitely did try to save Senku and ****ed up, and he's acting like a **** to cover up his failure because Magma's not a BAD guy, really, he's just a ****ty person who hates himself. It was a fine chapter.
    Good to know I'm not the only one. Also, what's your take on Gen here, if I may ask?
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