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    Default Dodge, Mobility, Spring attack and steel dervish [Fighter] Feats

    Dodge [Fighter]
    Prerequisites: Dexterity 15
    Benefits: You add your BAB as a dodge bonus to AC.
    Mobility [Fighter]
    Prerequisites: Dodge
    Benefits: You do not provoke attacks of opportunity for movement, and you may move 10' with a 5' step.
    Spring Attack [Fighter]
    Prerequisites: Dodge, Mobility
    Benefits: When you take the charge action you may make a full melee attack at the end of said charge, and when you use the withdrawal action you may make a full ranged attack. The benefits of a charge only apply to your first attack.
    Steel Dervish [Fighter]
    Prerequisites: Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack
    Benefits: You gain an extra move action each round. Whenever you move more then 20' in a round you add 1/4 your BAB to AC and may take one additional attack with an attack action (standard or full attack) at your highest BAB. This stacks with similar effects (such as a scout's skirmish AC bonus).
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    Default Re: Dodge, Mobility, Spring attack and steel dervish [Fighter] Feats

    Dodge - 2 fighters with dodge won't be able to hit each other at all at 16th level :D

    Steel Dervish is great - "You gain an extra move action" should be incorporated into Run etc. as well.

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    Default Re: Dodge, Mobility, Spring attack and steel dervish [Fighter] Feats

    Quote Originally Posted by rferries View Post
    Dodge - 2 fighters with dodge won't be able to hit each other at all at 16th level :D
    hmm, that may be a problem... Maybe against those with a BAB lower then yours... still doesn't solve the equal level fighter problem... hmm.
    Steel Dervish is great - "You gain an extra move action" should be incorporated into Run etc. as well.
    Thanks! Yeah, I agree on the issue of run.
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    Default Re: Dodge, Mobility, Spring attack and steel dervish [Fighter] Feats

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    1. I think it would be simpler and less problematic if Dodge gave the character's BAB as dodge AC. That way, the more martially inclined characters have the most to gain from it.
    2. You should find a way to prevent Steel Dervish from becoming another tool in the hands of spellcasters (e.g. you cannot benefit from it in the same round when casting a spell or using a spell-like/psi-like/supernatural ability).

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    Default Re: Dodge, Mobility, Spring attack and steel dervish [Fighter] Feats

    With dodge... I'm not sure that weapon uses need to be hosed that hard? Like, they already suck, now every wizard just has to take dodge and cannot be harmed by a weapon user in a 1 on 1 fight.
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    Default Re: Dodge, Mobility, Spring attack and steel dervish [Fighter] Feats

    Quote Originally Posted by nonsi View Post
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    1. I think it would be simpler and less problematic if Dodge gave the character's BAB as dodge AC. That way, the more martially inclined characters have the most to gain from it.
    2. You should find a way to prevent Steel Dervish from becoming another tool in the hands of spellcasters (e.g. you cannot benefit from it in the same round when casting a spell or using a spell-like/psi-like/supernatural ability).
    Changed dodge to match up, for steel dervish maybe BAB +12? (Let's 3/4's get it and full) or +16 (full)

    Quote Originally Posted by Knitifine View Post
    With dodge... I'm not sure that weapon uses need to be hosed that hard? Like, they already suck, now every wizard just has to take dodge and cannot be harmed by a weapon user in a 1 on 1 fight.
    Yeah, changed dodge.
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    Default Re: Dodge, Mobility, Spring attack and steel dervish [Fighter] Feats

    Alright, next issue: All melee character want pounce. Therefore, all melee character want mobility. Therefore it's a feat tax.
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    Default Re: Dodge, Mobility, Spring attack and steel dervish [Fighter] Feats

    Quote Originally Posted by Knitifine View Post
    Alright, next issue: All melee character want pounce. Therefore, all melee character want mobility. Therefore it's a feat tax.
    That or dipping barbarian, not so much a problem with the feat as one inherent in the classes.
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    Default Re: Dodge, Mobility, Spring attack and steel dervish [Fighter] Feats

    Quote Originally Posted by NothingAbnormal View Post
    That or dipping barbarian, not so much a problem with the feat as one inherent in the classes.
    The feat exacerbates the problem, because it's so easy to put in all builds, it has to be put into all builds.
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    Default Re: Dodge, Mobility, Spring attack and steel dervish [Fighter] Feats

    Yes, just like for most builds they will work in barbarian 1, this simply gives them a dip (keep in mind they can also get whirling frenzy and other things) or a feat. Pounce I agree is necessary on a melee, but since it is not worked into classes (I think nonsi did something with his rework that was really nice and let a martial fight and move, I liked it, but it was a while ago) I feel there should be a lot more things that give it.
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    Default Re: Dodge, Mobility, Spring attack and steel dervish [Fighter] Feats

    Quote Originally Posted by NothingAbnormal View Post
    Yes, just like for most builds they will work in barbarian 1, this simply gives them a dip (keep in mind they can also get whirling frenzy and other things) or a feat. Pounce I agree is necessary on a melee, but since it is not worked into classes (I think nonsi did something with his rework that was really nice and let a martial fight and move, I liked it, but it was a while ago) I feel there should be a lot more things that give it.
    Yes. First spoiler here.
    I always hated the need to pay with feats for things that should be an integral part of melee (iteratives, PA, expertise, finesse etc.), so I looked for a general solution.

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    Default Re: Dodge, Mobility, Spring attack and steel dervish [Fighter] Feats

    Quote Originally Posted by nonsi View Post
    Yes. First spoiler here.
    I always hated the need to pay with feats for things that should be an integral part of melee (iteratives, PA, expertise, finesse etc.), so I looked for a general solution.
    Ah yes, that was it
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