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    Dwarf in the Playground
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    Default Conjuration build advice

    A while back I posted I was new to 3.5 and asked for some help constructing a build based on the Malconvoker class. I got some awesome advice from alot of people and more than a few pointed me to the "Mastering the Malconvoker" Guide, which has been a lifesaver for learning 3.5 so far, so I'm back to ask for some more advice from you guys

    I didnt really like any of the suggested builds in the guide, so I came up with my own

    SpecialistWiz6/malc9/thaum5 I'm currently SpecWiz5/malc4

    My banned schools are Necromancy and evocation (minions for blasting, necromancer in the party)

    1. Is there anything wrong with this build that the other builds cover that I'm not seeing by chance? It seems like a straightforward list straight up to the best demon summoner I can be.

    2. I currently have a Force Shield ring, the Robe of Inferno, a Ring of Spell Storing, a cloak of Persuasion, and a headband of intellect. My bluff is pretty high, and my charisma is decent, especially with spells. I'm currently looking for a way to boost my int alittle more, and maybe my reflex/fort saves too as those are only +2 and +2 and I'm worried of getting saves-nuked. I have a barghest planar-bound and plan on getting a succubus this level.

    My feats currently are Augmented Summoning, Elemental Reserve, Demon mastery, Skill focus: bluff, Spell focus: conjuration. Criminal Apprentice. (bluff free from malconvoker, familiar swapped for augment)

    So yeah, general advice for someone not very familiar with 3.5 appreciated. Thanks!

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    Bugbear in the Playground
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    Default Re: Conjuration build advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemenia View Post
    My feats currently are Augmented Summoning, Elemental Reserve, Demon mastery, Skill focus: bluff, Spell focus: conjuration. Criminal Apprentice. (bluff free from malconvoker, familiar swapped for augment)
    looks like you messed up 2 ACFs
    http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/cl...njurerVariants
    the familiar swaps out for rapid summoning
    and scribe scroll swaps of for augment summoning and At 5th level, the conjurer's summoned creatures become particularly tough to dispel. Add 2 to the DC of any caster level check made to dispel the conjurer's summoned creatures.

    so talk to your DM, make sure your using the proper ACFs and getting the proper benefits of both

    nothing wrong with your build, pretty simple so far, since your new to 3.5, that's probly best anyways

    there's no problem that the proper summons cant handle

    reposting relevant links incase you need them
    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...he-Malconvoker
    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...ce-D-amp-D-3-5
    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...rer-s-Handbook
    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...0#post22092940
    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...r-Planes/page1
    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...e-Monster-List

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    Dwarf in the Playground
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    Default Re: Conjuration build advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet06320 View Post
    looks like you messed up 2 ACFs
    http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/cl...njurerVariants
    the familiar swaps out for rapid summoning
    and scribe scroll swaps of for augment summoning and At 5th level, the conjurer's summoned creatures become particularly tough to dispel. Add 2 to the DC of any caster level check made to dispel the conjurer's summoned creatures.

    so talk to your DM, make sure your using the proper ACFs and getting the proper benefits of both

    nothing wrong with your build, pretty simple so far, since your new to 3.5, that's probly best anyways

    there's no problem that the proper summons cant handle

    reposting relevant links incase you need them
    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...he-Malconvoker
    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...ce-D-amp-D-3-5
    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...rer-s-Handbook
    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...0#post22092940
    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...r-Planes/page1
    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...e-Monster-List
    Ah I did take rapid summoning! I forgot. No full round summons for me. I appreciate the reminder. Do you have any feat suggestions for the couple I have left?

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    Ogre in the Playground
     
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    Default Re: Conjuration build advice

    Well, since you're a Wizard 5 anyway, why not pick up the Spontaneous Divination ACF, which grants you the ability to spontaneously convert spells into Divination spells like a Cleric can with Cure spells at the price of a single bonus feat. Oddly enough, you don't need to be a Diviner in order to take it.
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    Bugbear in the Playground
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    Default Re: Conjuration build advice

    extend spell is always good on a summoner build, makes your critters last longer, especially if your using them utility
    Cloudy Conjuration can be fun, nothing wrong with adding battlefield control to your summons

    also using the summon undead line of spells can mesh with your necromancer in the party if he has lots of things that buff undead

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