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    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    Griffon

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    Default Need help with a joke

    Is there a way to get Bardic Performance on a Magus, Eldritch Scoundrel archetype Rogue, or Investigator (without giving up extracts)? Third party material is fine. The important thing is "Sixth level casting, Bardic Performance, 3/4 BAB, and not actually a Bard" (Skald counts as bard, so does Variant Multiclass Bard secondary)

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    Barbarian in the Playground
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    Default Re: Need help with a joke

    Variant Multiclassing does it just fine.

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    Griffon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rynjin View Post
    Well, I know about Evangelist and Ocean's Echo, which are both 9th level casters. There's also Martyr and Oath of the People's Council if I don't mind a 4th level caster. I was just really hoping to find a sixth level arcane caster.

    Thanks though. Maybe I should look into prestige classes?

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    AssassinGuy

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    Default Re: Need help with a joke

    what's the joke?

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    Griffon

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    The GM had facetiously forbade me from making a bard (because I am trying to talk the group into making a party of nothing but bards for Kingmaker) and I wanted to make a character that was a bard in everything but name.

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    OrcBarbarianGuy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baroncognito View Post
    Thanks though. Maybe I should look into prestige classes?
    Plugging "Bardic Performance" into Archives of Nethys gets:
    Argent Dramaturge
    Ashavic Dancer
    Aspis Agent
    Battle Herald
    Dawnflower Anchorite
    Lion Blade
    Noble Scion
    Pathfinder Chronicler
    Sphere Singer
    Steel Falcon

    Some 'stack with' but don't grant the ability.
    Some give 'similar to, but does it's own thing'.

    The only 'keeper' would be Pathfinder Chronicler, which doesn't get it until 3rd level, and doesn't progress casting.
    [retired]

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    Oradin Guide

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    Griffon

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    Thanks Grarrrg.

    So, Fey Bloodline Sorcerer with Bloodline Familiar gets a Familiar that can fascinate as the Bardic Performance. I don't suppose that could count as the character having access to bardic performance?

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    BlueKnightGuy

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    You could always be a multiclass fighter/rogue/sorcerer who specializes in enchantment spells...

    Taking some levels in Pathfinder Chronicler is probably the best way to straight up get bardic performance. Losing the caster levels isn't even much of a problem if you WANT a 2/3 caster anyway.
    I'm playing Ironsworn, an RPG that you can run solo - and I'm putting the campaign up on GitP!

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    Griffon

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    Quote Originally Posted by rs2excelsior View Post
    You could always be a multiclass fighter/rogue/sorcerer who specializes in enchantment spells...

    Taking some levels in Pathfinder Chronicler is probably the best way to straight up get bardic performance. Losing the caster levels isn't even much of a problem if you WANT a 2/3 caster anyway.
    Hm. That's an interesting point. Can Lore Warden stack with an archetype that gives Bardic Performance?

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    BlueKnightGuy

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    Depends. If you're looking at Pathfinder Chronicler, it's not an archetype, it's a prestige class. I don't know of a fighter archetype that gives bardic performance (the only reference for Lore Warden I found was a fighter archetype), so if you know of one it'll stack so long as they don't replace the same feature. If you multiclass and apply the Lore Warden archetype to your fighter levels, and another archetype to your levels of another class to get BP, they'll stack just fine since they don't apply on the same levels.
    I'm playing Ironsworn, an RPG that you can run solo - and I'm putting the campaign up on GitP!

    Most recent update: Chapter 6: Devastation

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    A worldbuilding project, still work in progress: Reign of the Corven

    Most recent update: another look at magic traditions!

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    HalflingRangerGuy

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    What about a Medium with the Storyteller archetype? You get Bardic Performance (kinda) at level 2, you're BAB15, and while you're only a level 4 caster, you can always channel the Archmage or Hierophant spirit to fix that. You're also CHA based and have a bonus to Knowledge skills.

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    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    Griffon

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    I'll have to check that out, thanks for the suggestion.

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