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    Pixie in the Playground
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    Default Quick question about Find familiar spell.

    Hello all, just a quick question. It has been some time since I've played ad&d 1st edition and I can't seem to find the information on what the bonus hitpoints are for magic-users from their familiars. If someone would be able to tell me in what book and where I would find it that would be awesome.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Ogre in the Playground
     
    BarbarianGuy

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    Default Re: Quick question about Find familiar spell.

    It's in the spell description in the PHB. As long as the familiar is within range the MU adds the familiar's hp, which I think is 1d4.

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    Daemon

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    Default Re: Quick question about Find familiar spell.

    They are listed as 2-4 hp.

    However, many of the critters have a monster listing elsewhere (often MM2), so I tend to use whatever is better.

    domestic cat mm2 pg 22
    small hawk mm2 pg 64
    ordinary raven mm2 pg 105 (PH HP)
    owl mm2 pg 97 (but this is a large owl)
    weasel mm2 pg 125 (PH HP)

    and, of course, there are so many other possibilities. rat, parrot, snake, bat, etc

    for the specials, see the monster entry (MM1).

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    Pixie in the Playground
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    Default Re: Quick question about Find familiar spell.

    Thanks, I assumed. It's just we all know Gygax wasn't the best at making things easy to read.
    "Explanation/Description: A familiar is of certain benefit to a magic-user, as the creature adds to the spell caster's hit points..." Doesn't really say it adds it's own hp to the magic-user. Which was my downfall to assume it was else where.

    But again, thanks for the quick replies.

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    EvilClericGuy

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    Default Re: Quick question about Find familiar spell.

    This isn't RAW by any means but in 1&2E games my group typically treated the Familiar and Spellcaster as "sharing" a pool of HP. Simply put we looked up the creature's HP in the MM and added it to the Spellcaster's own and vice versa. It was sometimes a nightmare to track but it was a really good way of keeping our Spellcasters from treating familiars like they were disposable meat shields.

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    BarbarianGuy

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    Default Re: Quick question about Find familiar spell.

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    This isn't RAW by any means but in 1&2E games my group typically treated the Familiar and Spellcaster as "sharing" a pool of HP. Simply put we looked up the creature's HP in the MM and added it to the Spellcaster's own and vice versa. It was sometimes a nightmare to track but it was a really good way of keeping our Spellcasters from treating familiars like they were disposable meat shields.
    If you were playing RAW, there's no way you'd treat a familiar as a meat shield. If it gets killed, the MU permanently loses not only the familiar's HP, but again that many (so if the familiar had 4, the MU loses 8 permanently) A low level MU could die from their familiar getting killed. And you can only cast the spell once a year.

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