The Elder Scrolls XIV: Good? Bad? I'm the one with the Thu'um!

[Starwulf]

Whenever I had problems like that with NMM there was a login dialogue open behind the main window of the program.

I tried that as well, I completely closed it out via altctrldel. Still, it ended up working in the end, and after two hours of trying, Nexus finally decided to let me start downloading as well, so I officially have my first major mod installed :). Huzzah!

[DigoDragon]

I am pretty sure you can mod the Fusrodah shout to not do damage so you can ragdoll shopkeeps because you just "blew lightly" on their cluttered counter tops.

Potion Shopkeep: "Hello, welcome to the--"
Dragonborn: "FUS!"
Potion Shopkeep: "Hey! what did you scatter my stuff for?"
Dragonborn: *drops a large inventory of leather helmets and leaves*
Potion Shopkeep: "Damn adventurers..."

Honestly, is it that hard to not pick up things on the counter? I think I've done that maybe twice, in over 3000 hours of play. It doesn't feel like a major problem, particularly as there's an auto save from about four seconds earlier.

It only happens once in a rare while, but I usually have autosave disabled because I hate the clutter of save files it creates.

I once dropped a mug from my inventory after picking it up by accident while exploring a bandit cave. One of the bandits heard it, and came to investigate. When he didn't find anyone, he picked up the mug..
And walked up to me while I was in stealth, and gave it back. Then went back to his normal patrol area like nothing happened.

*snerk* I love those moments.

One of my favorite moments was when I was battling an ice mage and had to back away to heal myself. He gave chase and plowed through a cluster of random items that fell on floor from our battle. Because of item physics he took a bunch of damage from the items bouncing around and died. It was like he tripped on an apple and broke his neck. XD

I mean, being able to use Telekinesis to toss a Flawless Diamond into the midst of an enemy horde and provoke a fight over it doesn't get old.

Nope, never gets old. I got harassed by town guards for littering jewelry before. It's fun.

[Kareeah_Indaga]

I mean, being able to use Telekinesis to toss a Flawless Diamond into the midst of an enemy horde and provoke a fight over it doesn't get old.

*horrified* I've never done that! *makes note to try it*

So e.g. shirts fly around like they were starched to all hell or simply NEVER washed before.

They probably weren't; when was the last time you saw a laundromat in Skyrim?

[Starwulf]

Quick question, do I need "LOOT" With NMM? And if so, is it it's own stand-alone thing, or do I install it using NMM as well?

[Rynjin]

It'll make your life easier. Just download it manually; it's its own program.

[Starwulf]

It'll make your life easier. Just download it manually; it's its own program.

Alrighty then, thanks! Sorry for the all the questions last few days, I haven't modded a TES game since Morrowind, and even then I never downloaded a lot.

[Balmas]

In Bethesda games, plugin load order tells the game in which sequence things should be loaded into the game. This means that if your load order is in the wrong sequence, plugins may try to find information from master files that haven't loaded yet, or just find the wrong mod's effect being applied. LOOT is a tool to help sort your load order; not 100% necessary, and not 100% reliable, but a good convenience to have.

[Triaxx]

If you encounter a loading problem, and you'll know because it crashes before you see the main menu, and LOOT doesn't help, download xEdit. Start that up and let it load. It will error out and tell you which file is missing a master, which none of the other applications will do.

[Ogremindes]

On the subject of useful tools for modding, Mator Smash is friggin' sorcery.

[Triaxx]

What is with mods and hugging? Seriously, recorded an episode and died because I'd gotten a hug and could not get my wizard hands to work again. Gotta put my 'weapon' away before hand and it works fine but there was no warning.

[LibraryOgre]

You can get hugs?

[Spore]

What is a hug in that context?

[Triaxx]

A couple mods do, mostly follower mods. This particular one is Rigmor of Bruma, and it's entirely platonic.

[Sharoth]

A question for you all. How good of a port is the Nintendo Switch version of Skyrim?

[DigoDragon]

One thing I miss from Oldrim mods were the added Khajiit hairstyles. Seems like they weren't ported over. I could do it myself, but that requires getting the SE Creation Kit, which means getting the Bethesda launcher to get the SE Creation Kit... feels like a bit of work for a little itty bitty mod. Or maybe I'm lazy. Could argue either way I suppose. The hair mods ported to SE are those huge ones like Apachii. Stuff that's 350 megs. Wow.

One thing I probably SHOULD update is my OBS software to record my play. Latest version is 22.0.2 and I have... 0.659b? Um...


Anyway, after some test runs, it seems all the mods are playing nice with each other so I think I'll do a full run with some videos. Maybe try to play an actual spellcaster this time (sneak theifs are second-nature to me, I can't help going back to those).

[Triaxx]

Try a conjuration weapon stealth mage if you can't get away from stealth. Ghostwalk from Apocalypse is awesome.

[DigoDragon]

Try a conjuration weapon stealth mage if you can't get away from stealth. Ghostwalk from Apocalypse is awesome.

Oh ho ho, thanks for the idea. I will try that! I've now installed a mod that lets you conjure a bound pickaxe and hatchet.

One thing I'll say about SE edition is I feel like installing mods manually is little more annoying than it was in LE edition. Probably because you have to load the actual game in SE edition to access the mod list (as opposed to the launch window in LE) and for whatever reason the game will still disable certain mods because reasons. I have a workaround for it, but it just feels like an extra step. Probably because of that Creator Club thing that is attached to the game now. Hmm.

[Triaxx]

I still stick with Nexus mods, so there's no reason to mess around in the in-game menus.

[veti]

You absolutely don't have to load the game before modding it. You'd only do that if you were using the official creation club mods, but Nexus still has a better range and still works the old way.

[DomaDoma]

So. Still no Blades game, huh?

[DigoDragon]

I still stick with Nexus mods, so there's no reason to mess around in the in-game menus.

You absolutely don't have to load the game before modding it. You'd only do that if you were using the official creation club mods, but Nexus still has a better range and still works the old way.

I am getting all my mods from Nexus, but there were a couple that needed to be installed manually (ports from the LE version that weren't repackaged well). I tried activating mods by editing the Prefs text file for it, but LOOT for whatever reason didn't like that. But end result is I got everything loaded now and playing well together.

I highly recommend Khajiit-speak, BTW.

[Kareeah_Indaga]

So. Still no Blades game, huh?

That's been my feeling too; given that it was last slated to come out in - December, IIRC? - you'd think they'd at least have put out more in the way of hype by now. And what ever happened to the Early Access?

[Brighteyes]

You can get hugs?

I'll take a hug.

[Ogremindes]

So, over the last week or so I've been setting up and testing a new load order for Skyrim Special Edition. My list of mods is getting pretty lengthy at this point, but I still have some room, so anyone have any mods they think I should be throwing in?

My focus has been primarily on content, with some immersive survival stuff in there too. But I have been adding interesting bits and pieces as I find them. Vortex doesn't have a good way to export the mod list, but I have found a way that sort of works...

Spoiler: List of Mods

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• (Part 1) Engine Fixes 2.13 for SSE 1.5.53 - skse64 plugin-17230-2-13-1-5-53
• (SSE PORT) Cursed Doll- Halloween special-13293-1
• A Quality World Map - Classic with All Roads-5804-8-4CA
• A Quality World Map - Clear Map Skies-5804-9-0-1CMS
• Acquisitive Soul Gems Multithreaded-1469-4-6-5
• Adalvald's Retreat-18935-1-0
• AFT_NoDances-6656-.1
• Alternate Silent Voice Files-15109-1-0
• Alternate Start - Live Another Life-272-4-0-8
• Alternate Start -- New Beginnings-4939-1-3-1541752063
• Amazing Follower Tweaks-6656-3
• Andromeda v107-14910-1-07SSE
• Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch WHY DO I HAVE TO CHANGE THE NAME-1090-
• Apocalypse v945-1090-9-45
• Apotheosis - Lifeless Vaults SSE-2024-2-3-0
• Arisverd-5110-1-21.1
• Ars Metallica - Smithing Enhancement-321-2-0-3
• Become a Bard-2303-1-0-5
• Belt-Fastened Quivers 1.3 SE-1182-1-3SE
• Better Dialogue Controls v1_2-1429-1-2
• Better MessageBox Controls v1_2-1428-1-2
• Beyond Skyrim - Bruma - Tweaks Enhancements and Patches SSE 1.2-19374-1-2
• Beyond Skyrim - Bruma Moonpath to Elsweyr Synergy Patch v2.4-11069-2-4
• Beyond Skyrim Bruma SE 1.3.3-10917-1-3-3
• Beyond Skyrim DLC Integration Patch-10917-1-1-2
• BeyondReach4_0Beta-3008-4-0Beta
• Blackreach Railroad Special Edition 1.05-435-1-05
• Blended Roads-8834-1-45
• Bruma - Alternate Start-10942-1-01
• Bruma SE Signs SMIMmed-10924-1
• BSHeartlandFRF-11072-1-0-0
• Campfire 1.12 and Frostfall 3.4.1SE-17925-1-1
• Campfire 1.12.1SEVR Release-667-1-12-1SEVR
• Castle Volkihar Rebuilt-324-2-0-3-1540324239
• Celtic Music In Skyrim SE-2980-2-1
• Cloaks and Capes Fixes-19510-1-0
• Cloaks and Capes-2019-1-4
• Clockwork_SSE_v1-0-4155-1-0
• Common Clothes and Armors-21305-1-1-0-1542489288
• Cutting Room Floor-276-3-0-9-1539633875
• Cutting Room Floor-276-3-0-9-1539633875+No Stormcloak Cuirass Edit
• DarkenD 1.4 SSE-10423-1-4.1
• Darkwater Crossing-326-2-0-4-1541477510
• Dawnguard and Clan Volkihar Epilogues-12098-2-2
• Dawnguard Delayed - Level 50-2399-1-0
• Dawnstar-13607-2-0-4-1541554180
• Deadly Dhadows in Riften v.1.3-12582-v-1-3
• Deadly Shadows of Markarth v.1.4-12658-v-1-4
• Deadly Shadows Windhelm v.1.2.7z-13234-v-1-2
• Deadly_Shadow_over_Solitude_Vanilla_v.1.2.7z-12833-v-1-2
• Disease - Sanies Lupinus-20825-1-0-1540672003
• DIVERSE SKYRIM SSE-7707-2-14-1540771022
• Dragon Bridge-8683-2-0-3-1541552827
• Dragonborn Delayed - Dragonslayer-8365-1-0
• DS Lairs v1.3-18440-1-3
• EasierRider's Dungeon Pack SSE v1.3-2218-v1-3
• Economy Overhaul and Cutting Room Floor Patch-9542-2-0
• Economy Overhaul and Missives Optional Patch-9542-2-0
• Economy Overhaul and Speechcraft Improvements V2.0 - Complete Version-9542-2-0
• Economy Overhaul Complete Version and Ordinator Patch-9542-2-0
• Economy Overhaul Complete Version and Scarcity Patch - 18.08.19-9542-2-0
• Extended Stormcloak Armor Variety v2_1SE-12681-1-2SE
• FaceGenData 1.4 Meshes and Textures.-10423-1-4
• Falkreath-21266-1-0-1542319297
• FallrimTools 4.0.1 (alpha)-5031-4-0-1-1540940872
• Falskaar - Addons and Patches 1.1-19454-1-1
• Falskaar V2_2-2057-2-2
• Fences of Skyrim-5664-2-0
• Final Cataclysm - Start after The Grand Paladin-18964-Final2-1542523378
• Final Cataclysm 4.0 (Base)-18964-4-0
• Flora Respawn Fix SSE - 2.1.3.zip-13186-2-1-3
• Forgotten DungeonsSSE-449-9-02
• Frankly HD Imperial Armor And Weapons - Leanwolf Better Shaped Weapons Patch-20848-1-0-1540746817
• Frankly HD Imperial Armor And Weapons - Sleeves and Pants Edition-20848-1-0-1540746853
• Frankly HD Imperial Armor And Weapons 2k-20848-1-0-1540746779
• Frankly HD Nightingale Armor and Weapons 1.1-18560-1-1
• Frankly HD Nightingale LeanWolfs Better-Shaped Weapons and Dual Sheath Redux Patch-18560-1-1
• Frankly HD Thieves Guild Armors-19953-1-0
• Frostfall - Seasons - Dangerous Mountain version-16317-1-2b
• Frostfall 3.4.1 SE Release-671-3-4-1SE
• Fuz Ro D'oh-15109-1-3
• Gotobed-espfe-4224-1-4-2-1542859711
• Gray Cowl of Nocturnal - Alikr Flora Overhaul-10141-1-6se
• Gray Cowl of Nocturnal Combo Mod-17831-1-0
• Guard Dialogue Overhaul (GDO) SSE-20791-1-6-1540770604
• Guild Armor for Random Thieves (GART)-20155-1-1-1541217076
• Hammerfell Armory SE.-8336-1-3
• Hammet's Dungeon Packs for SE-12186-1-872-1542973954.1
• Heavy Armory __ WACCF-19518-1-0
• Heavy Armory Enchanted-16737-1-1
• Heavy Armory SE-6308-3-3
• Helgen Reborn SSE Version 106-5673-V106-SSE
• Hessian Sword 4K-6195-1-1
• Hope's Abandon 1.1 for SSE-13870-1-1
• Icebound Crypt SSE 1-0-17806-1-0
• Immersion Patch-4301-2-0
• Immersive Dungeons SSE 1.2-16706-1-2
• Immersive Patrols Fakreela Face Fix-18066-1-0
• Immersive Patrols SE-718-2-2-0
• Immersive World Encounters SE-18330-V1-9
• ImmersiveUpgradeLeveledItems_1.0.2.7z-5511-1-0-2
• Imperial Armor Redistribution-12646-1-4-0
• Imperial Armor Redistribution-12646-1-4-0+Cloaks and Capes Edit
• Imperious v724-1315-7-24SSE
• Improved Traps-17592-2-3
• iNeed v1_90 Alpha 1-645-1-90A1
• Ivarstead-349-2-0-4-1541535415
• JContainers SE-16495-4-1-5
• Karthwasten-350-2-0-3-1541551559
• KS Hairdos SSE - .esp only-6817-1-5
• KS Hairdos SSE-6817-1-5
• Kynesgrove-351-2-0-4-1541475567
• LanternsUI
• LC_BuildYourNobleHouseV1_4-18308-1-4
• LeanWolfs Better-Shaped Weapons INSTALLER - SE-2017-2-0-13
• Less Night Eye Blur-2394-1-1
• Lightweight Water Overhaul
• Lore-Based Loading Screens 1.3 SE-1185-1-3SE
• Lucien - Moon and Star Patch-20035-1-0-0
• Lucien - Moonpath to Elsweyr Patch-20035-1-0-0
• Lucien-20035-1-1-0
• Luminosity Lighting Overhaul - Cathedral Project-16830-2-0
• main-3622-1
• Missing DBboots Texture-7505-1-671
• Missing walls hotfix-10423-1-4
• Missives 4.0 SSE-17576-4-0
• Moon and Star-4301-3-2
• Moonlight Tales MCM-17363-0-3
• Moonlight Tales SE 1_35-2803-1-35
• Moonpath Music-18649-1-1
• Moonpath to Elsweyr SSE-4341-1-16-1
• More Werewolves-7259-1-2-1
• Morrowind Imports-1768-1-1
• Musical Lore V1.2-3200-1-2
• NarrativeLoot Complete-12812-1-0
• New Lore-Friendly Dungeons-17773-0-2-0.1
• New Treasure Hunt-19469-1-71
• NotSoFast-MageGuildV14-5686-1-4
• NotSoFast-MainQuestV16-2475-1-6
• Obsidian Weathers 1.06-12125-1-06
• Obsidian Weathers and Seasons MCM ESP-ESL-20209-1-2-0
• Obsidian Weathers for Vigilant-12125-Vigilant1-0
• OpenCivilWar-2.5.8-SSE.zip-11076-2-5-8-1542901415.1
• Ordinator Beyond Skryim Bruma Patch-10934-1-0
• Ordinator v926-1137-9-26SSE
• Palaces and Castles Enhanced - SSE-1819-V2-1
• Palaces and Castles Enhanced SSE - Compatibility Patches-1819-V2-0
• PapyrusUtil SE - Scripting Utility Functions-13048-3-6
• PickUpBooksSimple .ESP-2453-1-7-1541899948
• Point The Way-352-2-0-3
• PrivateProfileRedirector SE 0.3.2 (SKSE64 v0.2.0.10)-18860-0-3-2
• Qaxe Winterhold Rebuild SSE-10727-2-2-1542224994
• QUASIPC - Unified Patch Compendium v1_8_0-18369-1-8-0-1541571238
• RaceMenu Special Edition v0-2-7-19080-0-2-7
• Ravengate v006BETA-12617-0-06BTASSE.1
• Realistic Capacity 1.0 SSE-17577-1-0.1
• Rorikstead-16881-1-0-4-1542919128.1
• Run For Your Lives-2272-4-0
• Sacrosanct v515-3928-5-15SSE
• Salt and Wind - KS Hairdo's Retexture 3.0-16582-3-0
• Scarcity SE - Less Loot Mod-8647-1-1
• Septims Have Weight (Really good balance - 0.05 weight)-2468-1-0
• Shadows of the past-4564-1-2
• Shor's Stone-354-2-0-3-1541537572
• Simple Horse SE-12650-1-2
• Skyrim SE - Project Optimization - ESM VERSION 1.3-14084-1-3
• Skyrim Sewers 4.14-9320-4-14-1541703529
• Skyrim_Particle_Patch_for_ENB-SSE
• SkyUI SE - Flashing Savegames Fix-20406-1-0
• SkyUI_5_2_SE-12604-5-2SE
• Sleep Tight SE-20680-1-04-1540069429
• Slower Companions Advancement
• sm_Curiospartofskyrim-19989-1.1
• SMIM SE 2-08-659-2-08
• Soljund's Sinkhole-358-2-0-2-1541550060
• Sovngarde - Mist's Font Replacer V8.5-386-8-5
• Stendarr's Beacon - Enhanced and Ruhmastered v1.4SSE-16178-v1-4SSE
• Summermyst v307-6285-3-07SSE
• SynodOutfitsForMzulftResearchers-14120-1-1
• Tentapalooza SE 1.3-652-1-3
• The Book of UUNP-SSE-7505-1-67
• The Book of UUNP-Warlock Boots Fix-Sevenbase-7505-1-67
• The Choice is Yours-3850-2-0.1
• The DoubtSuspended Quest Pack Version1.3-4929-1-3
• The Eyes Of Beauty - Vampire Eyes SSE-15910-1-0
• The Final Cataclysm (Update Only)-18964-Final2-fixed-1542546680
• The Forgotten City-1179-1-8
• The Grand Paladin 2.2 (Update Only)-5777-2-2
• The Grand Paladin SE.-5777-1-4
• The Gray Cowl of Nocturnal - Alternative Start-4509-1-0
• The Gray Cowl of Nocturnal SE - Addons and Patches 1.0-19724-1-0
• The Gray Cowl of Nocturnal-4509-1-3
• The Grey Cowl of Nocturnal SE - HD Texture pack-7644-1-2
• The Paarthurnax Dilemma-365-2-0
• The Unfinished Business - Dungeon Pack SSE 1.3-16705-1-3
• Thief Skills Rebalance for Ordinator-1137-.1
• Thieves Guild For Good Guys - Taking Care of Business 3.0-10745-3-0
• Thunderchild v411-1460-4-11SSE
• Tournament of the Ten Bloods 2.1-15264-2-1
• Ulags Legacy - No Immersive Armors-20510-1-1-1-1540364027
• Ultimate Variant-3907-1-2
• Underwater Treasures SSE SoG- Rivers and Lakes 1-0-17267-1-0
• Unique Uniques SE-3334-1-1
• Unique Uniques__WACCF-19518-1-0
• Unofficial Creation Club Updates - Plague of the Dead v1.2.2-12682-1-2-2
• Unofficial Moonpath to Elsweyr Patch v1.5-15882-1-5
• Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch-266-4-1-5a-1540753983
• Valley Of Outcasts 2.0-18175-2-0
• VIGILANT SE v130-11849-1-3-0
• VIGILANT Voiced - English Addon-11894-2-1
• VioLens - A Killmove Mod SE 2.21-668-2-21
• Volkihar Music-15849-1-0
• WACCF and Summermyst Patch-19500-1
• Warmonger Armory - Unofficial Fixed SSE Port 1.1-17809-1-1
• Wayfarer's Coat-10194-1-0
• Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes-18994-1-0-1
• Wearable Lanterns 4.0.3 Release-7560-4-0-3
• Wet and Cold v2_20 Alpha 1-644-2-20A1
• Whistling Mine-367-2-0-5-1541539215
• Wildcat v700-1368-7-00SSE

I do have some notable omissions. CACO and OBIS both caused instability in my setup, while I have other mods covering the same territory as Immersive Armors and Immersive Weapons.

[anhuangdi]

Elder scrolls.. great when you get tons of mods going!
Vanilla I don't like so much but when its modded, awesome.

[Inarius]

So it looks like Blades was officially pushed back to early next year. That's fine by me really, I'm mostly just curious about the game and not particularly excited for it.

[Kareeah_Indaga]

So it looks like Blades was officially pushed back to early next year. That's fine by me really, I'm mostly just curious about the game and not particularly excited for it.

I've gotten that way too; the combat I've seen looks kind of bland, and I haven't seen any of the city-building aspect of it. I mostly just want to see what they decide to do with the premise of playing as one of the Blades as far as plot, but I haven't heard much about that either. The fact that it's been delayed twice is not inspiring confidence either.

[The Jack]

The announcement of Tes6 flew completely under my radar, i only found out it was announced today. But then again, of course it would fly under that radar: i wasnt mad at fallout 76, i was mad at skyrim and fallout 4 (and oblivion was mixed) 76 was just an eyeroller for me.

So does anyone have any hope that it will be any good?

[Triaxx]

I mean... I'll be buying it regardless, and probably be pumping a lot of hours I to it.

I admit being afraid to ask why you were mad at Skyrim. If it was the writing... You might be playing games from the wrong franchise.

[veti]

Well, Skyrim does have a lot of issues, hence a lot of mods. Even excluding the writing. But even so, I have no hesitation in giving it honours over Oblivion.

My fear for TES6 is that it might be like Fallout 4. Now that was a real waste of electrons.