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    I get the feeling this is to setup some sort of misunderstanding relationship drama between the three of them. Like danica is going to be upset when she inevitably learns whats really going on that they couldnt tell her or something. They arent telling her because opsec is a thing and talking about important secret missions over your cell phone is probably not the best idea. And they didnt exactly have time to track her down wherever the heck she is and chat it out in person.
    There's also the thing where the one family they are going after seems to be setting up all the other families for a big bust. Which they probably deserve in terms of overall right and wrong, but if it's actually technically bogus in terms of it's actual particular details that's a thing. It gets horribly convuluted if they get off because it was made up and the guys who made it up say thank us for making it up.
    The end of what Son? The story? There is no end. There's just the point where the storytellers stop talking.

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    I can’t read that last panel without thinking about how Hark! A Vagrant did it better.

    (Yes, the H!AV joke was based on a famous climactic moment from a classic noh play, but regardless.)
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    Um...why is Burke going in to pick up a cargo shipment a bad idea? I'm sure that place does legitimate business, so they must be used to strangers coming in and picking stuff up. As long as he doesn't act suspicious, he should be fine.

    ...And what the heck sort of "cargo" does a brothel have? It's a service industry. It doesn't make cargo. I mean, unless it's a brothel/factory. Maybe they make shoes on the side?
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    Presumably the madam traffics some contraband on the side.

    I don't see how the plan can possibly make sense - "two people having a fight" is not less conspicuous than "a customer" (or "a pair of customers" for that matter).
    So I'm gonna go ahead and call this "weak excuse to set up wacky misunderstanding."

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    Let me guess, this is to pretend Grex is from a rival faction so Burke gains more influence or something?

    Not that I see how it will help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AMX View Post
    Presumably the madam traffics some contraband on the side.

    I don't see how the plan can possibly make sense - "two people having a fight" is not less conspicuous than "a customer" (or "a pair of customers" for that matter).
    So I'm gonna go ahead and call this "weak excuse to set up wacky misunderstanding."
    That still doesn't work, though. Even if she deals in drugs or weapons or what have you, she'd be just that: a dealer. She'd sell to end users because it would be rather suspicious for delivery trucks to regularly stock up at a brothel. If you want storage space, you bribe someone at the docks to let you use one of their warehouses.
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    She has a secure line to make a phone call off the planet, obviously prostitution is not her only business. Maybe not even her main ones.

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    I won't criticize the plan itself, I'm willing to give it a chance.
    However, I am confused about a need for a plan in the first place.

    The entire point to use Burke is because he is a low profile criminal who will not be recognized as a threat.
    He arrived alone, as a tourist, and even if someone checks his background they will just see a minor criminal entering a "house of delight".
    Sure, the place is being watched, but do they just kill everyone that exits the place regardless of what he did there?

    How do they even know that the watch is related to the detective? They know about the meeting so the entire city is probably filled with spies and watchers all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    That still doesn't work, though. Even if she deals in drugs or weapons or what have you, she'd be just that: a dealer. She'd sell to end users because it would be rather suspicious for delivery trucks to regularly stock up at a brothel. If you want storage space, you bribe someone at the docks to let you use one of their warehouses.
    Ah, I think I see the problem.
    You assume "cargo" implies "truckloads of stuff" when it could just as well be hyperbole for "a USB thumbdrive."

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    So anyone have any idea why the comics not updating?
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    So anyone have any idea why the comics not updating?
    Update says Garth moved and couldn't finish in time. We get to see some sketches so we could make a game of guessing the dialogue to it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
    Update says Garth moved and couldn't finish in time. We get to see some sketches so we could make a game of guessing the dialogue to it...
    Oh of course he posts that right after I check and see the same comic from before. That jerk is trying to make me look bad in front of my peers! /angrily shakes fist at mookie
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    Traab is yelling everything that I'm thinking already.
    "If you don't get those cameras out of my face, I'm gonna go 8.6 on the Richter scale with gastric emissions that'll clear this room."

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    Oh of course he posts that right after I check and see the same comic from before. That jerk is trying to make me look bad in front of my peers! /angrily shakes fist at mookie
    He's such a jerk, isn't he?

    Well, I guess the plan worked? I mean, Burke might die and they definitely drew their attention but... She got in. Instead of just walking in like a normal person.
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    Aside from the obvious problems, there is also another hiccup in the plan: The detective SPECIFICALLY asked for Burke.
    That was the entire point of sending him instead of Grex and another soldier in the first place.

    Will the detective even agree to give the files to her?

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    I'm having Copperfield flashbacks. "Please, Sir, Can I Have Some Hoes?"
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    How do Grex and Burke know that he isn't about to be killed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    How do Grex and Burke know that he isn't about to be killed?
    My guess would be casual murder isnt really a thing with these crime families. A brutal stomping yes, open killing? Not for something like this. Just because you are a member of the purple corleone family doesnt mean you are going to randomly kill everyone you dont like. It IS a risk, but im guessing they are pretty sure its very low risk it ends in death. In all likelihood burke is going to have black eyes and bruises all over, but be allowed to scamper off after they "teach him a lesson" Im guessing that they are the "doormen" of the establishment, they dont want to bring official attention on themselves by leaving a body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by random11 View Post
    Aside from the obvious problems, there is also another hiccup in the plan: The detective SPECIFICALLY asked for Burke.
    That was the entire point of sending him instead of Grex and another soldier in the first place.

    Will the detective even agree to give the files to her?
    Yeah, that seems off to me as well. Mookie forgot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traab View Post
    My guess would be casual murder isnt really a thing with these crime families. A brutal stomping yes, open killing? Not for something like this. Just because you are a member of the purple corleone family doesnt mean you are going to randomly kill everyone you dont like. It IS a risk, but im guessing they are pretty sure its very low risk it ends in death. In all likelihood burke is going to have black eyes and bruises all over, but be allowed to scamper off after they "teach him a lesson" Im guessing that they are the "doormen" of the establishment, they dont want to bring official attention on themselves by leaving a body.
    Sure, that makes sense for a more small scale operation, but we are being lead to believe that these guys have so much political clout and such high ranking cops on their payroll that they basically are the government. For a group like that, it's easy to cover up indiscriminate murder (especially if the victim is a traveler), and using such would be a great intimidation technique. No one's going to mess with the gang that is so powerful and merciless that they kill people for the smallest slights.

    In the end, I'm casting this as Mookie (once again) not considering the ramifications of his own world building and is just thoughtlessly combining tropes from completely different stories. All powerful shadow governments are cool, and thugs beating people up is cool, even if they don't exactly fit together.
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    So Burke will either be in hospital or dead. What a great plan.
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    I think what cracked me up is "You go inside and enjoy yourself", confirming that this entire plan was pointless from the start.

    Here is what SHOULD have been plan A:

    Burke goes inside, have a few drinks, maybe a lap dance, takes the data unnoticed and leaves.
    Why would anyone suspect him?

    Grex discovers that he is being followed? Time for a better plan B:
    Repeat plan A for a couple of days without contacting the detective, just signaling him that they are being followed.
    After a few days, he will be ignored as a regular customer-tourist (which he technically is), and taking the information on the bar while pretending to have a casual talk with another customer will be possible.

    There are flaws, and he can be discovered followed or whatever, but the current plan does NOTHING to fix the same problems, and is a lot more painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celestia View Post
    Sure, that makes sense for a more small scale operation, but we are being lead to believe that these guys have so much political clout and such high ranking cops on their payroll that they basically are the government. For a group like that, it's easy to cover up indiscriminate murder (especially if the victim is a traveler), and using such would be a great intimidation technique. No one's going to mess with the gang that is so powerful and merciless that they kill people for the smallest slights.

    In the end, I'm casting this as Mookie (once again) not considering the ramifications of his own world building and is just thoughtlessly combining tropes from completely different stories. All powerful shadow governments are cool, and thugs beating people up is cool, even if they don't exactly fit together.
    Not so much, I called them the purple corleone family for a reason. If you watch the godfather you will see the various families own cops, heck, one uses the freaking police chief as his backup for a meeting with michael. They own the local cops to at least enough of an extent that they can do a lot of illegal things without hassle, but there are still limits to what they can do without bringing on too much attention. Beating the tar out of someone is easily ignored, murdering and disposing of the body is something else. Why do you think michael had to leave the country for a time after he shot those guys? That was too much of a splash to be covered up easily. He had to leave till the heat died back down, then he waltzed back into nyc like it never happened. Killings do happen, but they dont happen casually. They arent going to murder a guy because he slapped a chick who wanted to go to their business. They are going to kick his butt then run him off.
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    There's a huge flaw in your plan(s) : who is paying for all those drinks lap dances?! Those aren't cheap, I assume. Not that I would know. They don't have a budget for that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
    There's a huge flaw in your plan(s) : who is paying for all those drinks lap dances?! Those aren't cheap, I assume. Not that I would know. They don't have a budget for that!
    Hmmm, guess you're right.

    Sorry Burke, no budget for a lap dance, time to call someone to beat you.

    Hope he is insured, because there is no budget for medical bills either.

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    Hmmm, guess you're right.

    Sorry Burke, no budget for a lap dance, time to call someone to beat you.

    Hope he is insured, because there is no budget for medical bills either.
    Oh, those will heal by themselves. And if not, I'm sure MillFed has magic medicine and universal health care.

    And now the inevitable romance.... Uh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
    Oh, those will heal by themselves. And if not, I'm sure MillFed has magic medicine and universal health care.

    And now the inevitable romance.... Uh.
    Nothing like watching a pair of mature hardened professionals suddenly forgetting their priorities and acting like hormone ridden teens.
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    On a positive note, it does explain why the detective will ignore his own demand for the messenger.
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    "Zhit" is, perhaps, the laziest attempt at sci-fi swearing.
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    "Zhit" is, perhaps, the laziest attempt at sci-fi swearing.
    Zuck and Zhit... am I seeing a trend here?
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    Zuck and Zhit... am I seeing a trend here?
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