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Thread: Initiative Fishing Build
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2018-02-16, 01:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Initiative Fishing Build
One thing led to another and last night I had a ridiculous idea about a character whose sole purpose would be to get as high initiative bonus as possible, and I came up with this:
Variant Human
Str 8, Dex 15+1, Con 10, Int 14, Wis 8, Cha 15+1
Alert
Fighter (Champion) 14
Rogue (Swashbuckler) 4
Wizard (War Magic) 2
A total of 6 ASI, which would be used to improve Dexterity by 4, Charisma by 4, and Intelligence by 4.
The end result would be as high as +22 for initiative checks! (Of course, if you were to roll your stats and had better scores to start with, the maximum potential would be +23).
As a bonus, the character itself would actually be pretty viable as an Archer as well! (With Con 10 I'd prefer to stay in the back and rain hell with arrows)Last edited by Arkhios; 2018-02-16 at 01:41 AM.
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My Homebrew:
Base Class: Warlord | Roguish Archetype: Inquisitor | Roguish Archetype: Thug | Primal Path: Rage Mage
Ongoing game & character:
Sajan Uttam, human Monk 6/Fist of Irori 3 (Legacy of Fire)
D&D/Pathfinder CV of sorts
3.0 since 2002
3.5 since 2003
4e since 2008
Pathfinder 1e since 2008
5e since 2014
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2018-02-16, 02:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiative Fishing Build
How about 8 14+1 10 14 14 12+1
Alert
War Wiz 4
Swash 4
Gloom Stalker 4
Champion 8
You’d end up with 8 20 10 16 16 16
So
Alert +5
Dex +5
Champ +3
Wiz +3
GS +3
SB +3
Dang, still only +22!
His motto could be “Init. to Win It”
:)Last edited by Crgaston; 2018-02-16 at 02:38 AM.
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2018-02-16, 03:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiative Fishing Build
I'm pretty sure that by the time you get over +10 to Initiative, the DM's gonna go "So, [X] goes first.. who's after them?"
Does sounds kinda fun, if a bit.. well, not useless. I just haven't an idea what you'd do for your standard opening move.
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2018-02-16, 04:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiative Fishing Build
Please be mindful of what you say in public; sadly not all can handle sarcasm or The Internet Credibility.
My Homebrew:
Base Class: Warlord | Roguish Archetype: Inquisitor | Roguish Archetype: Thug | Primal Path: Rage Mage
Ongoing game & character:
Sajan Uttam, human Monk 6/Fist of Irori 3 (Legacy of Fire)
D&D/Pathfinder CV of sorts
3.0 since 2002
3.5 since 2003
4e since 2008
Pathfinder 1e since 2008
5e since 2014
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2018-02-16, 07:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiative Fishing Build
Throw in 2 levels of bard - jack of all trades applies to initiative rolls and keys off of the total character level.
"Can i touch myself before talking to that guy?"
"..."
"I mean can i cast a touch spell on myself..."
"It's both possible, but one would probably lead to a bad outcome."
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2018-02-16, 07:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-02-16, 10:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiative Fishing Build
Barbarian 7 gets advantage !
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2018-02-16, 10:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-02-16, 10:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiative Fishing Build
swap out champion-fighter (half proficiency), for athlete-feat (full proficiency)!
also, 1 level of ranger (the under dark revised ranger) gives advantage on init, and an extra attack + 10 ft movement of first round.
agree with the rest, swashbuckler definately,
and i may be wrong, but couldn't you inspire yourself for the initiative check??(bard) also guidance..Last edited by Azgeroth; 2018-02-16 at 10:27 AM.
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2018-02-16, 10:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiative Fishing Build
Please be mindful of what you say in public; sadly not all can handle sarcasm or The Internet Credibility.
My Homebrew:
Base Class: Warlord | Roguish Archetype: Inquisitor | Roguish Archetype: Thug | Primal Path: Rage Mage
Ongoing game & character:
Sajan Uttam, human Monk 6/Fist of Irori 3 (Legacy of Fire)
D&D/Pathfinder CV of sorts
3.0 since 2002
3.5 since 2003
4e since 2008
Pathfinder 1e since 2008
5e since 2014
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2018-02-16, 10:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-02-16, 10:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiative Fishing Build
Get weapon of warning or sentinel shield for advantage on Initiative
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2018-02-16, 10:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiative Fishing Build
Guidance is worth 2.5 on average. Better than an ASI to pick up magic initiate:cleric.
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2018-02-16, 10:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiative Fishing Build
ASIs are just being used for +2 stats yeah so 2 ASIs is only +2 to the roll.
Advantage is worth more than that surely? Or am I missing something?
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He's right, Athlete feat doesn't given you proficiency in anything as far as I can see? Makes you better at standing up, climbing and jumping but no proficiency.Last edited by Contrast; 2018-02-16 at 11:06 AM.
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2018-02-16, 12:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiative Fishing Build
Please be mindful of what you say in public; sadly not all can handle sarcasm or The Internet Credibility.
My Homebrew:
Base Class: Warlord | Roguish Archetype: Inquisitor | Roguish Archetype: Thug | Primal Path: Rage Mage
Ongoing game & character:
Sajan Uttam, human Monk 6/Fist of Irori 3 (Legacy of Fire)
D&D/Pathfinder CV of sorts
3.0 since 2002
3.5 since 2003
4e since 2008
Pathfinder 1e since 2008
5e since 2014
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2018-02-16, 12:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiative Fishing Build
I'd rather have advantage... swap the 14 levels of champion for 8 levels of barbarian and 4 levels of bard, could use the last 2 for another 2 of wizard.
Still get half prof to init from JOAT and an ASI, get advantage from barbarian and 2 ASI, init from War Magic and an ASI, and 4 levels of Swashbuckler for another ASI. 5 ASI, so only +21, but with advantage. Plus better spells, more HP, potential serial immortality from barbarian if you go Zealot, or tanking with Bear... advantage on dex saves... all around better than 14 levels of fighter, IMO. Though if you want a crit fishing 3 attacks per round always first kinda guy, your build would be better.Last edited by Theodoxus; 2018-02-16 at 12:36 PM.
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2018-02-16, 12:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Initiative Fishing Build
It’s worth noting that the rogue’s reliable talent feature works with the champion’s half-proficiency, so you can get a more reliable initiative with a slightly lower bonus by putting more levels into swashbuckler and none in wizard.