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    Default Re: Episode II: The Gathering Storm OOC Thread 2

    The categories seem mostly fine, although...slicing seems sort of out of place, as it's a means, not the end. Information trading, data mining, or something along those lines might fit more. Alternatively, we could set up a system with base "stats" representing the group's skill in doing things through certain means, and with the actual lines of business being derived as a weighed, and possibly dynamic, combination of those - for instance, the slicing stat would, point by point, increase data mining more than the bribing stat would, but it would be the opposite for weapon smuggling, and IC actions could affect not only the base stat but also how those affect the various lines of business. It would defnitely be much more convoluted, though, so...well, I'm just brainstorming. Yeah, I'm good at making things more complicated than they need to be.

    As for rerecruiting, if whoiam returns I think we're good. If not...I actually think we'd still be fine, but I wouldn't be opposed to picking up one or two more players.
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    I'd probably lump Piracy with Bounty Hunting/Assassination as general purpose thuggery, and use the slot for extortion/protection rackets, which are a big money maker for RL organized crime.

    I'd also add prostitution to gambling under the heading of vice, subject to player comfort levels. That's a bit heavy.

    I'm going to go ahead and roll my computer aid checks already.

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    Use Computer 2 - (1d20+4)[19]
    Use Computer 3 - (1d20+4)[23]
    Use Computer 4 - (1d20+4)[11]
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    I'll spend a FP on each of the failed rolls. #5 is guaranteed to pass.

    FP 1 - (1d6)[4]
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    Default Re: Episode II: The Gathering Storm OOC Thread 2

    I’d intended “smuggling” to include sentients as well as spice so prostitution is fine if you guys are okay with it.

    I think piracy would be better combined with heist, since you’re stealing things.

    Extortion / protection would probably fit better with gambling and indentured servitude, as something that is low risk and prolific and makes money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundercracker View Post
    I’d intended “smuggling” to include sentients as well as spice so prostitution is fine if you guys are okay with it.
    I'm fine with it. I mean, as long as we don't run afoul of The Rules, anyway.

    Also, rolls. DC 30.

    (1d20+21)[25] +6 +2 Pass.
    (1d20+21)[23] +1 +2 Nope! Rerolled.
    (1d20+21)[37] Pass.
    (1d20+21)[38] Pass.
    (1d20+21)[38] Pass.
    (1d20+21)[38] Pass.

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    Default Re: Episode II: The Gathering Storm OOC Thread 2

    Yeah, I forgot the other 5 FP rolls. I'm stupid. Rolling the one I actually need: (1d6)[1]

    So...what about the second virus to disable the comms? Can I do that?
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    You have the re-roll. Make it count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperbolic sine View Post
    Yeah, I forgot the other 5 FP rolls. I'm stupid. Rolling the one I actually need: [roll0]

    So...what about the second virus to disable the comms? Can I do that?
    Yes, you can do that.
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    Alright, here goes nothing. Reroll (1d20+24)[35] Pass.
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    Default Re: Episode II: The Gathering Storm OOC Thread 2

    Gial earns two dark side points for killing a bunch of people in cold blood (1) for monetary gain (bonus point).

    Shyar earns three for the above reasons and for specifically intending kill her lover in the process.
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    Welp, Shyar's full darkside now. Go WIS dump stat!

    We level too, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomLunatic View Post
    Welp, Shyar's full darkside now. Go WIS dump stat!

    We level too, right?
    Yes, level to 8. Let me know if there’s anyone who wants to join and who would be a good addition to the game, before I open recruitment to the general public.
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    I don't know anybody.

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    Updated and reformatted NPC list, please review it and let me know if I've missed anything.
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    Default Re: Episode II: The Gathering Storm OOC Thread 2

    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...rganized-Crime

    Recruitment thread. Let me know if I’ve screwed anything up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundercracker View Post
    Updated and reformatted NPC list, please review it and let me know if I've missed anything.
    Seems like everyone's in there. Everyone I remember, anyway.

    Also, Saboteur HP (1d8)[1]

    EDIT: Yay for +4 BaB at level 8. I feel like a wizard.
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    Are the temporary feats from GT training still available, or am I going to have to do this non-proficiently?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thundercracker View Post
    Updated and reformatted NPC list, please review it and let me know if I've missed anything.
    What about that Ferrmore Security lady we left behind on Titan during the weapon heist?

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    http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...rganized-Crime

    Recruitment thread. Let me know if I’ve screwed anything up.
    You should make it clear to use Backgrounds. Between the recruit thread and the OOC, I wouldn't have picked up on that.
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    Are the temporary feats from GT training still available, or am I going to have to do this non-proficiently?

    Yes, this will probably be the last time you get to use them.
    What about that Ferrmore Security lady we left behind on Titan during the weapon heist?
    Veronica Ors.

    You should make it clear to use Backgrounds. Between the recruit thread and the OOC, I wouldn't have picked up on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperbolic sine View Post
    As for rerecruiting, if whoiam returns I think we're good. If not...I actually think we'd still be fine, but I wouldn't be opposed to picking up one or two more players.
    Hey, I said I would, and I will. Though you could have PMd me or something once you were ready... I'd have probably been really late to the party if I hadn't spotted the recruitment thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by whoiam View Post
    Hey, I said I would, and I will. Though you could have PMd me or something once you were ready... I'd have probably been really late to the party if I hadn't spotted the recruitment thread
    My bad. But I still would have had a spot for you :)
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    Far be it for me to tell you how to recruit. But I'm starting to see seeds for a gross expectation mismatch. One of the applicants has "murder" on their character's do-not-cross line.

    I think part of the problem is asking for grey characters for a game centered on organized crime. I don't know about you, but when I think the mob, I swing towards the "villain" end of scum and villainy.
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    Default Re: Episode II: The Gathering Storm OOC Thread 2

    To be fair, you can put together some decent 'grey' criminal characters who do have objections to things like torture (generally inefficient), murder (personal murders are bad for business; professional murders are assassinations) or slavery (generally bad for the economy as a whole, and can earn far more enemies than you'd like, but potentially lucrative if you're up for the risks).

    Though I may be giving the applicant too much credit there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomLunatic View Post
    Far be it for me to tell you how to recruit. But I'm starting to see seeds for a gross expectation mismatch. One of the applicants has "murder" on their character's do-not-cross line.

    I think part of the problem is asking for grey characters for a game centered on organized crime. I don't know about you, but when I think the mob, I swing towards the "villain" end of scum and villainy.
    Im inclined to agree somewhat, but I also think it is interesting to have a character with stricter morals in these types of games.

    Also, they may be against it now, but we’ll see what happens when they’re put on the spot. When there are real ramifications to the character for letting someone live and almost no negative repercussions for silencing them. See breaking bad’s Walter White for a good example of what I’m talking about.

    We will have more discussions before accepting anyone. We can always request adjustments to personality and background as well.
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    Default Re: Episode II: The Gathering Storm OOC Thread 2

    I think we should provide some examples of what the group did (like killing those poor pilots to steal the A-wings), so that the applicants have a better idea of what they can expect. I'm all for some intra-party moral conflict, but, considering how easy is to lose players in PbP, I think we should make sure that if someone chooses the lighter end of greyscale they know what they're getting into.
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    Default Re: Episode II: The Gathering Storm OOC Thread 2

    So way back when we started the A-wing heist, you all left your equipment with Kayla. You have it back now.
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    Default Re: Episode II: The Gathering Storm OOC Thread 2

    Ok folks, any applicants jump out at you?

    We can ask them to modify (and likely will) but want to get your thoughts on frontrunners at this point.
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    Default Re: Episode II: The Gathering Storm OOC Thread 2

    Hyperbolic need your applicant feedback.

    Random yes it’d be great if you can audit again, but wait until after selection to cut down on the workload.
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    Random, iirc Kayla doesn’t know about the weapon cache. Do you want to revise your post?
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    Well, she has to know we tried something because we got her approval for the caper. But on review, we have three months before it becomes dicey, so yes, I will.
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    Can I assume Kayla explains who Lusk is? I don't think Shyar's heard that name before.

    And can we wrangle parts somehow? I would like to take advantage of the downtime to have Gial work on some of Shyar's gear.
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