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2018-03-08, 06:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Spellbook creation. 2nd ed Ad&d
I took the proficiencies of paper making and book binding from spells and magic so I could create my own spellbooks. I cant find any relevant information on it except for the price. Any legit sources from 2nd ed ravenloft or homebrew that make sense around?
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2018-03-08, 08:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spellbook creation. 2nd ed Ad&d
None that I know of, no. 2e did not, as I recall, go deeply into it, save for the occasional "Well, this type of wizard uses WEIRD spellbooks"
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2018-03-09, 09:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spellbook creation. 2nd ed Ad&d
uh...only from day one
Try the magic section of the DMG (sorry 2 versions means quoting page #'s is a pain)
"Spell Book Cost
The one thing all spell books have in common is their cost. Book are never cheap, and a wizard's spell book are more expensive than most.
For the materials and their preparation, the wizard must pay 50 gp per page. Traveling spell books, which are even more compact, cost 100 gp per page."
"How Many Pages in a Spell Book?
Each spell requires a number of pages equal to its level plus 0-5 (ld6-I) additional pages. The actual number of pages a spell takes differs for each wizard. Even if two or more wizards are recording the same spell, the number of pages varies, since there are differences in handwriting and notations."
Spellbook max 100 pgs
Scroll max 25
Travelling book max 50
Edit: bookbinding mentions the cost & references chapter 7 DMG I now see. Didn't even read the profs?Last edited by CE DM; 2018-03-09 at 09:09 AM.
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2018-03-18, 04:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spellbook creation. 2nd ed Ad&d
DMG just references the costs related to scribing spells and scrolls. As far as creating the books themselves, I believe that the PHB contains Glue pricing under trade goods and I know that it lists the prices for parchment and for paper.
I would suggest that the ability to make paper and bind books would probably allow you to craft books "at-cost" out of the materials. Then sell them for profit. There's literally nothing special about a spell-book itself, all the significant costs are derived from scribing the spells themselves.
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2018-03-18, 10:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spellbook creation. 2nd ed Ad&d
That is not what I take from those direct quotes, nor from the descriptions of the proficiency/skills to be used. YMMV, of course.
"Normally, a wizard must pay a bookbinder 50 gp per page for a standard spell book, or 100 gp per page for a traveling spell book—see Chapter 7 of the DMG. A wizard who does this work himself reduces these costs by 50%,"
"A wizard who makes his own paper can reduce the costs of manufacturing a spell book by 50%, although this requires one to two weeks of time and a suitable work area. Normally, a traveling spell book costs 100 gp per page, and a standard spell book costs 50 gp per page. If the wizard also knows the bookbinding nonweapon proficiency and binds the volume himself, the cost of the spell book is reduced by 75% altogether."Last edited by CE DM; 2018-03-18 at 10:19 PM.
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2018-03-19, 05:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spellbook creation. 2nd ed Ad&d
@CE DM I misread your post. I thought you had posted the entirety of the material for reference, didn't realize you hadn't quoted Chapter 7
Mea culpa.
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2018-03-19, 05:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Spellbook creation. 2nd ed Ad&d
No worries...I did indeed try to "cut the fat" & only post the most relevant parts. Once upon a time I tended to post whole text blocks, and provide proper notations, but few ever bothered to use them (or even read them), etc, so I've become more "lax" & streamline things as well.