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    Quote Originally Posted by t209 View Post
    Well, not sure about DnD Manual, but their kicks are powerful though.
    And don't underestimate the damage they can do by whipping their necks, either. Unfortunately, I suspect that this, despite being one of their primary methods of fighting IRL, is not stat'ed in D&D.

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    Don't forget Loki-an magic going underneath Roy on the panel that is the summoning of the Giraffes. Neat subtle Detail!
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    ~laughter~

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    To my knowledge, they're not statted in D&D 3.5 at all. This is probably the closest you'll get.

    Hooves can barely penetrate DR; slam can't at all. Does not have Power Attack by default.

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    It's basically trap springing 101, with the upside of providing cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    And don't underestimate the damage they can do by whipping their necks, either. Unfortunately, I suspect that this, despite being one of their primary methods of fighting IRL, is not stat'ed in D&D.

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    EDIT: Dang, ninja'd while I was double-checking...
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    top5 loudest laughs of my year

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    First: Protection from Law really seems like it should protect you from the need to wear pants.
    Second: OH THOR, THAT LAST PANEL! :) You think it's just gonna be some cool OOTS poses or something, and you scroll down and your like, "WHAT THE....." That was completely hilarious. Well played Giant.
    Third: Using multi-coloured war Giraffes to PRETTY bloody chaotic. Seems right up Hilgya's alley.
    Fourth: Always skip point #5
    Sixth: It took me a minute before I noticed the title again after actually reading it, and it just made it that much better :).
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    There is also some stuff in the anarchic creature template but not that useful (Resistance to acid 5, cold 5, electricity 5, fire 5, and sonic 5, darkvision).

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    OK, the rat going “WOOOO!” kind of has me bewildered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kish View Post
    To my knowledge, they're not statted in D&D 3.5 at all. This is probably the closest you'll get.

    Hooves can barely penetrate DR; slam can't at all. Does not have Power Attack by default.
    Though we're probably looking at stampede/trample damage here. Which, since it's not stat'd out, is as good a claim as any. :)
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    Does "A Monster for Every Season" contain giraffes?
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    I wonder how many rounds it'll take before Durkula realizes he's accidentally ordered his spawn not to attack the summons until they've killed the elf.
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    So can we, like, induct Hilgya as an honorary member of the Order on the spot, or what's the process for that
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    First off, let me say that I don't have a reputation for laughing out loud.

    This particular strip was an exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I wonder how many rounds it'll take before Greg realizes he's accidentally ordered his spawn not to attack the summons until they've killed the elf.
    1) His spawn are not as stupid as the sand elemental
    2) The summons will soon be killed by the traps
    3) Even if some survive, their ability to contribute to the fight is close to nil - they are too weak to pose a threat to vampires.

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    But really, the important lesson here is this: Rather than making assumptions that don't fit with the text and then complaining about the text being wrong, why not just choose different assumptions that DO fit with the text?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kish View Post
    To my knowledge, they're not statted in D&D 3.5 at all. This is probably the closest you'll get.

    Hooves can barely penetrate DR; slam can't at all. Does not have Power Attack by default.
    Damage aside, it is nice to see that the PF giraffe has a slam attack, which would adequately represent the neck-whipping @Grey_Wolf_c was concerned about.

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    Loved the Chaos Giraffes. And Roy did literally put a magic trick out of his... bag. Of tricks.

    I wonder how Durkon will react when he sees Hylgia and finds out he has a son, soon.
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    What a great surprise!

    (for them and for us :) )

    Are giraffes really cheap? I couldn't find any real D&D references to this, and they seem like they wouldn't be too cheap. Just curious.
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    Hahahahaha!! This is the first OOTS strip in a while to make me laugh out loud, so I had to post. Well done, Giant!
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    I love that Roy used his Bag of Tricks :) Why not?
    I'm re-reading and literally just thought yesterday (during the Bandit scene) "I wonder if Roy still has that Bag of Tricks?".

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    Are giraffes really cheap? I couldn't find any real D&D references to this, and they seem like they wouldn't be too cheap. Just curious.
    The anarchic giraffe seems like the kind of monster that would fit in on either the summon monster III or summon monster IV list. To stand a chance of getting four of them with one casting, then, we're looking at Hilgya having casted summon monster V at least.

    Not super-cheap, but probably not the height of her (unspent) power either. About the right expenditure of resources for trap-clearing.
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    THAT is great. Thank you Giant. I needed that.
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    I'm so very glad that I immediately zoomed to the first panel and didn't even see the last two panels, until after I read the rest.

    Well played Giant!

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    Are giraffes really cheap? I couldn't find any real D&D references to this, and they seem like they wouldn't be too cheap. Just curious.
    The Pathfinder statblock would be a reasonable custom Summon Monster IV summon, but Rich might be treating it as a Summon Monster III minion with a weaker statblock. In either case, the four were likely summoned by a single casting of a summon spell two levels higher.
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    UNLEASH THE GIRAFFES!

    I take it these are Chaotic Giraffes? Ridden by beavers and so on?

    Not FIENDISH Giraffes?

    Once again, a little evidence Hilgya is more chaotic than anything else.

    Or was this Roy's bag of tricks? I'm confused.

    But so is Durkula, and that's the key thing. Whatever he thought was going to happen, he wasn't expecting giraffes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jay103 View Post
    What a great surprise!

    (for them and for us :) )

    Are giraffes really cheap? I couldn't find any real D&D references to this, and they seem like they wouldn't be too cheap. Just curious.
    Assuming they are a Summon Monster 3 creature (same as a Celestial Bison), with a single 5th level slot (summon5) she gets 1d4+1 of them. 30+hp each.
    With that same Summon5, she could get a single creature with maybe 60hp tops. And better combat abilities, but not enough better to matter.

    4 creatures set off 4 traps. Or soak 120hp out of a Symbol, etc. All the Bag of Tricks critters help as well.

    They are cannon fodder. Their whole purpose is to run through the minefield and die gloriously.
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    Or was this Roy's bag of tricks? I'm confused.
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    If it looks stupid, but it works, it's even better because the enemy is gonna underestimate it.

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    Should the death traps already been triggered?
    Will the giraffes trigger them all?
    I don't know the rules, it looks like there are many traps, more than there are giraffes... Can they trigger them all? Can a giraffe trigger more than one symbol?
    I think I remember someone saying that the death trap is only triggered when it can kill... or only attacks those it can kill (it doesn't cause hp loss). Is it so?



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