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    Quote Originally Posted by Brookshw View Post
    Pretty sure it's that you can't see a vamos reflection in a mirror, nothing to do with repelling...


    Actually, if they were mirror sunglasses, could you see a vamp through them.....?
    Vampires are repelled by mirrors and cannot attack anyone who boldly presents one. I admit it had not occurred to me that one looking through the mirror might not see the vampire. But there can be no doubt that if Belkar wore Aviators he would present them boldly!


    And now it's confession time: in over forty years of gaming, I never once before now thought of Aviators as useful items for an undead hunter to have. Or any other character. There are hundreds of gaze attacks, and when I consider how many savings throws I've failed against them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.One View Post
    Come to think of it, Belkar should keep the glasses until they fight Xykon. They make him look Badass as Hel, and we know the lich has a soft spot for badass itens. The Order can then exploit the distraction when Xykon comes to obliterate Belkar for the glasses.
    Which fits Xykon's deal with the crown, and fits the prophecy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KorvinStarmast View Post
    Which fits Xykon's deal with the crown, and fits the prophecy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian 333 View Post
    Vampires are repelled by mirrors and cannot attack anyone who boldly presents one. I admit it had not occurred to me that one looking through the mirror might not see the vampire. But there can be no doubt that if Belkar wore Aviators he would present them boldly!


    And now it's confession time: in over forty years of gaming, I never once before now thought of Aviators as useful items for an undead hunter to have. Or any other character. There are hundreds of gaze attacks, and when I consider how many savings throws I've failed against them...
    Not sure if it's worth the perception penalty of wearing sunglasses when fighting creatures of the night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brookshw View Post
    So more posing for heavy metal album covers?
    Belkar on top of a mountain of dead goblins with the sunglasses and a guitar would make for a great heavy metal album cover.

    Title of the album - Shoeless Sexy God of War

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyraltari View Post
    Not sure if it's worth the perception penalty of wearing sunglasses when fighting creatures of the night.
    Unless the character is blind and uses the sunglasses (that wouldn't otherwise prevent the gaze attack) to pretend he's not blind and thus draw Domination "attacks" from the vampires without them knowing it won't work.
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    You know, considering how often he is face to face with powerful magic exploding around him, with all sorts of arcane energies and unknown types of radiation, wearing proper eye protection may actually be quite beneficial to his vision and health in the long-term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Belkar on top of a mountain of dead goblins with the sunglasses and a guitar would make for a great heavy metal album cover.

    Title of the album - Shoeless Sexy God of War
    If I had a band, I would've asked Rich for permission to do that ages ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delta View Post
    If I had a band, I would've asked Rich for permission to do that ages ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D.One View Post
    12 - Splitting the Party
    Actually, a friend of mine once did a filk version of Blind Guardian's "Don't Split The Circle" called "Don't Split The Party", but I think that was years before Rich ever published any books.

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    Where can I buy the album?

    Has anyone considered the magical properties of dark shades?

    My guess:
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    Intimidate as a free action every round.
    Interrupt Action - by sliding the glasses down and gazing over the top, wearers of these glasses may interrupt any action the target of the gaze is performing. Spells fizzle, skill-checks fail, and attack routines halt. If the recipient of this effect is also wearing dark shades, a Hipster Battle may ensue.

    Hipster Battles occur when two prominently bespectacled characters use their gaze on each other. The battle consists of dismissive and derisive gestures, pithy quips, and long-suffering sighs. The battle is apparently won when one affects a greater degree of boredom than the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian 333 View Post
    Where can I buy the album?
    Some musicians on the forum should get together to form "The Band of the Stick" and record it!

    Or maybe "Order of the Drumstick" (and have a 5 minute drum solo on every song)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delta View Post
    Some musicians on the forum should get together to form "The Band of the Stick" and record it!

    Or maybe "Order of the Drumstick" (and have a 5 minute drum solo on every song)
    Sadly, the obligatory drum solo killed its own appeal during the 70's and 80's. So let's not and say we did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morquard View Post
    Has nobody realised yet that these sunglasses must be magic?

    Think about it, in D&D the only items magically resizing themselves to fit the wearer are magic items. And sunglasses that just fit Blackwing now fit Belkar?

    So, lets speculate: What other properties do the glasses have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delta View Post
    Blind Guardian's "Don't Split The Circle".
    As a big fan of both Blind Guardian and The Order Of The Stick and a notorious nitpick, I feel obliged to say that the song is actually called "Don't Break the circle"....

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    Disk 2:

    1 - Heaven's Gates
    2 - Eugenic
    3 - The Grand Fighter
    4 - Little Brother
    5 - Amid the Sea
    6 - Therkla's Fate
    7 - The Deal of Vaarsuvius, the Mage
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    Last edited by D.One; 2018-06-28 at 07:40 AM.
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    But like....seriously...


    The shades worked right?

    He's just pretending they didn't by stabbing a bird that can be resurrected and then a cleric who 1. he doesn't care about and 2. can cure themselves.

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    The shades will have absolutely no effect on the Domination. It's maintained telepathically, not visually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    The shades will have absolutely no effect on the Domination. It's maintained telepathically, not visually.
    They might protect Belkar from future domination attempts if he breaks out of the current one (by, say, being forced to attack his cat).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_Wolf_c View Post
    They might protect Belkar from future domination attempts if he breaks out of the current one (by, say, being forced to attack his cat).

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    A GM might consider wearing shades as being similar to averting eyes, giving thus a 50% chance of avoiding the necessity of making a saving throw and granting concealment to the vampire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar Demonblud View Post
    The shades will have absolutely no effect on the Domination. It's maintained telepathically, not visually.
    It may not have worked now - but if he does break Domination later, the shades would prevent the vampires from realizing his eyes were no longer swirly.

    I would imagine the only thing that might break it is if Ms. Vampire with the Gloves tells him to do something unhealthy to Mr. Scruffy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skim172 View Post
    It may not have worked now - but if he does break Domination later, the shades would prevent the vampires from realizing his eyes were no longer swirly.

    I would imagine the only thing that might break it is if Ms. Vampire with the Gloves tells him to do something unhealthy to Mr. Scruffy.
    I've been betting Mr. Scruffy realizes something's wrong and forces the issue by attacking either Belkar or Ponchula.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian 333 View Post
    I've been betting Mr. Scruffy realizes something's wrong and forces the issue by attacking either Belkar or Ponchula.
    It's time for this speech to pay off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synesthesy View Post
    I want to see Belkar with sunglasses entering an arena full of people on a tank playing an electric guitar.
    I know I'm a bit late to the party, but my mind suddenly imagined Belkar going to fight a gigantic tank manned with gods know how many people - and all of them are also operating a gigantic electric guitar.

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    That would make for an awesome Eurovision finale.

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    Disk 3:

    1 - Sailing West
    2 - Desert Raiders
    3 - Fatherland
    4 - Flaming Letters
    5 - In the Arena
    6 - Facing Thog
    7 - The Return of the Linear Guild
    8 - Atonement (The Ballad of the Lonely Wizard)
    9 - Draketooth's Demise
    10 - Down Below
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    12 - Blooddrinkers
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    16 - My Two Dads
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    18 - Tarquin's Defeat
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    Each one of us, alone, is but a drop in the sea
    Our powers pale compared with the great heroes
    Our battles don’t hit theheadlines or shake the earth
    But they are few, can’t be everywhere, and we, many
    So, when the world or universe needs saving, they come
    But when people needs saving, we are the ones to appear
    We're underdogs, but we rise up to the challenge to be heroes.
    (Wishing Joe, a low-powered superhero)

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.One View Post
    Disk 3:

    1 - Sailing West
    2 - Desert Raiders
    3 - Fatherland
    4 - Flaming Letters
    5 - In the Arena
    6 - Facing Thog
    7 - The Return of the Linear Guild
    8 - Atonement (The Ballad of the Lonely Wizard)
    9 - Draketooth's Demise
    10 - Down Below
    11 - Belkar & Durkon
    12 - Blooddrinkers
    13 - Happy Ending
    14 - Fourth Gate Down
    15 - Bloodfeast
    16 - My Two Dads
    17 - Caster Fight
    18 - Tarquin's Defeat
    Bonus Track - Servant of Hel
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAdamV423 View Post
    I know I'm a bit late to the party, but my mind suddenly imagined Belkar going to fight a gigantic tank manned with gods know how many people - and all of them are also operating a gigantic electric guitar.
    Ah but can he win a greatsword fight with a daffodil?
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    No he shouldn't. Eyes play an important role in displaying reactions for OOTS characters. I doubt he'll have the sunglasses for long.
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