12 seconds of *anything*. Prestidigitation's trinket uses.

[sambojin]

Don't forget it also disappears at the end of your next turn. So really you can only grease a spot for one round. But maybe that's all you need.

Same problem with the "everburning" lantern. It really only lasts one round, and you have to recast it every turn just to maintain constant light. (And again, a lantern is probably too big, but a candle should be fine.)

Big enough hands and a small lantern that will fit in them. Admittedly, I go for a fairly open reading of this. People often say how well modern day pistols "fit in their hand", and they're not exactly talking derringers. But smallish lanterns that "never go out" are still pretty throwable. Or breakable. Or whatever.

Probably far too open of a reading though. Because otherwise a bastard-sword "fits in your hand", as does a car when you open the door of it.

So actual handsized is probably a better ballpark to be in for cantrip limitations, or thereabouts.


It's kind of why I go off the "Trinkets list" for what Prestidigitation can do. Most of the stuff is pretty small, none of them overtly powerful, you could easily add tonnes of them if you wanted to, with a knowledgeable basis of what's a "trinket" and what's a "magic item", and they're RAW and 100% PHB compatible (so everyone's got the basic list of what "they" can do/ask-for when the word "trinket" comes up. Can probably have different stuff if wanted, either from asking as player end, or by making it as DM end). Can be mundane as muck, but maybe with some world building/character building potential, or damn near magical but not quite a "magical item".

[JoeJ]

I would allow just about any normal thing that can be effectively carried and used one-handed to count as fitting in the hand, which opens up even more possibilities.

[sambojin]

Actually thinking, even though by this level that simple locks aren't really a problem, Prestidigitation might be super good for Arcane Tricksters. Whether you take my reading of it (you can summon something off the Trinket list, which is RAW AFAIC), or other people's "make a thingy appear", with Reliable Talent you have a heap of improvised tools at your disposal. That even with disadvantage due to the unreliability/improvised manner of them, you can never roll less than 10 on that check. Add in stats and proficiency/expertise, and damn near anything requiring a thingy to do can be done, disadvantage or not.

Not bad as a standard thief either. Presti up a bodgy thief tool, bonus action that in at 10+stuff. For auto-get-out-of-jail-free, which never actually comes up in regular play.

Not quite as nice as doing it with bonus action mage hand though. Because there's lard to be put. Everywhere.

[JackPhoenix]

Trinket: "a small ornament or item of jewellery that is of little value."

Not a weapon. Not a proper working tool. Not magic items (so many entries from the trinket table in PHB are out). Not food. And definitely not "anything".

Trinkets. Next to useless, if sometimes cool and inspiring, baubles.

[bobofwestgate]

If it all vanishes in 12 seconds, wouldn't anything consumed, like the aforementioned birds or fish water, just vanish halfway to your stomach?

[Ganymede]

If it all vanishes in 12 seconds, wouldn't anything consumed, like the aforementioned birds or fish water, just vanish halfway to your stomach?

You must have missed where he justified this by comparing a nonmagical trinket to the magical benefits of a Druid spell.

Just like Goodberry doesn't unnourish you after 24hrs is up, a bird that you've munched down raw probably shouldn't either.

[bobofwestgate]

You must have missed where he justified this by comparing a nonmagical trinket to the magical benefits of a Druid spell.

That's just stupid. Goodberry doesn't create anything. it infuses existing berries with magic. It's not even close to the same thing

[JackPhoenix]

That's just stupid. Goodberry doesn't create anything. it infuses existing berries with magic. It's not even close to the same thing

Nope, Goodberry creates magical berries. The magic goes away after 24 hours, but the berries remain.

[JoeJ]

Trinket: "a small ornament or item of jewellery that is of little value."

Not a weapon. Not a proper working tool. Not magic items (so many entries from the trinket table in PHB are out). Not food. And definitely not "anything".

Trinkets. Next to useless, if sometimes cool and inspiring, baubles.

Technically, maybe, but I don't see a problem with letting it create useful nonmagical items.

[mAc Chaos]

https://www.sageadvice.eu/2016/05/11...ation-cantrip/

This should settle the issue.

[bobofwestgate]

Nope, Goodberry creates magical berries. The magic goes away after 24 hours, but the berries remain.

My mistake

Doesn't change the fact that the cantrip says the item only lasts until the end of your next turn. So that summoned bird wouldn't last long enough to reach your stomach, let alone be digested.

[Montesquieu P.]

1) A yo-yo. Plenty of fun for the street magician. Especially if you carry a 'real' one and practice palming it.
2) A garotte wire, but be ready for the spray of blood when the wire vanishes. On the other hand, so does the murder weapon.
3) First casting: a rock. Second casting: a sling. Third action, use sling to fling rock. Neither ammo nor weapon can be found in any subsequent search. You can reverse the order if you want....
4) D6 caltrops, or marbles. Use in a very narrowed space, to slow down for 1 round a pursuer.
5) A pocket watch, set to the current correct time.
6) A one-sentence message, to be handed across in class. By the time the teacher gets there, there's nothing to find.
7) Feces, to be dropped/smeared. Yes, they disappear after the second round. Does the smell? You can substitute anise, bleach, gall, or any naturally strong-smelling substance. Hold your hand upside down at the end of the casting, and you may cause a nose-based tracker to lose the trail somewhat.
8) A half-dozen firecrackers with laced-together 1-second fuses. Gung hay fat choi!
9) A level -- when you think there's an angle you're not seeing.
10) A handful of mercury, to find the 'soft spot' in the floor where the trap's edge is.
11) A handful of glass and golden glitter flakes, to be hit with a Firebolt and be a 'dazzler burst'. Keep your eyes shut and you won't lose your dark adaptation.
12) A gold ring which you toss into the pit, before the bully, into the monster's hoard -- and then run like blazes while they're still searching for it. You may get a looooong way away before they figure out it wasn't there. Especially if you 'skipped' it across a surface when you threw it, so they heard it and saw it interact with what was there.
13) Pepper, habanero or chili pepper flakes, hot sauce, wasabi, ground ginger -- into the other person's meal and "Kampai!" Then run while they're coughing/choking.
14) A handkerchief to blow your nose in after #13 was pulled on you. Which you don't have to wash after using!
15) A ping-pong ball.
16) If you're near the water, instead of a gold ring, a humongous black pearl....

Now I want to take 1 level in Wizard just to get that cantrip....

[JoeJ]

3) First casting: a rock. Second casting: a sling. Third action, use sling to fling rock. Neither ammo nor weapon can be found in any subsequent search. You can reverse the order if you want....

Most of the rest of your list are pretty good (No. 7 is eewwww), but this doesn't work. The rock would disappear before you could fire it. If you had two casters with Prestidigitation you could manage it, though, or if you made a sling from a piece of your cloth and some string, and only used the cantrip to create the rock.