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2018-07-16, 05:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
Mr Scruffy...
Critical hit to the ol' heartstrings.At least now I can get back to enjoying my glass of elven wine in peace and quiet, without being called on to intervene in someone else's problems.
Clang, clang, clang goes the trolley! Ring, ring, ring goes the bell! Git away from me, ye daft fool!
*sigh*
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2018-07-16, 05:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
I've thought for a while that what Durkula is missing is sunlight.
Durkon as much as led Durkula to this location. Tenrin liked to look up at "Thor's stars." Sigdi donated to the temple.
Is there ... a skylight in this room?The Giant says: Yes, I am aware TV Tropes exists as a website. ... No, I have never decided to do something in the comic because it was listed on TV Tropes. I don't use it as a checklist for ideas ... and I have never intentionally referenced it in any way.
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2018-07-16, 05:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
It doesn't account for why she's able to attack four times, though.
Lacking a better or more amusing idea, I'm going to pretend Dashing Swordsman has an ability to grant an ally a move action; and we're seeing a haste-boosted move action and haste-boosted full attack in one panel.FeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
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2018-07-16, 05:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
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2018-07-16, 05:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2018-07-16, 06:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
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The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
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2018-07-16, 06:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
I owe Peelee 5 Quatloos. But I am going double or nothing that Durkon will be casting 8th level spells at the big finale.
I bet Goblin_Priest 5 quatloos that Xykon does not know RC has the phylactery at this point in the tale (#1139).
Using my Bardic skills I see the fate of Belkar...so close!
Using my Bardic skills I see the fate of goblinkind!
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2018-07-16, 06:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
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2018-07-16, 06:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
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2018-07-16, 06:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-07-16, 06:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
Or she simply snuck up as close as a five foot step behind him and full attacked next round. Rich has consistently not depicted the battles round per round perfectly rather choosing to make more dramatic portrayals.
Edit: Maybe she didn't even sneak, maybe she was just running towards him and Roy failed his spot check.
Not really, she just showed him "Shojo". He presumably had orders to attack Tsukiko's enemies from before.Last edited by SilverCacaobean; 2018-07-16 at 06:44 PM.
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2018-07-16, 06:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
Yea, that's REALLY not looking good for our heroes. V is down. Belkar is down. Elan and Haley are still dominated. Roy is hurt bad. Durkon is still imprisoned in Greg. Hilyga Dominated. Minrah unlikely to suddenly turn into Supergirl.
Short of a major miracle here, they could lose, and losing here would mean TPK.
I.... kinda doubt Roy will just be able to Shazam his way past this with Green Fire again though. He's done that once, and you don't want to overdue that kind of power and have Deus Ex.
Curious to see how they make it past this one. Or, if they die, how it somehow ends up not being the end of it all.
Nice to see the Lime Green Boots of Speed again, though.
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2018-07-16, 06:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-07-16, 07:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
Aren't they in Odin's temple/hall, and isn't the observatory in Thor's? Otherwise, nice idea.
I've given up trying to predict where this'll go, other than it'll be something that Durkon shows Greg, that stops him from TPK'ing the Order.
I like what one person upthread or a thread ago posted, re: where's our lovable Epic halfling rogue and is she possible present somewhere in a disguised form.
I'd expect something from Kraagor to be relevant or mentioned in Firmament---how many Epic Dwarven barbarians were there running around in Stickworld? (At least he can't be Durkon's dad, right?)---but that hasn't happened yet either. Strange that Haley and Elan weren't fighting more effectively until now, but the Dominate effect has unlimited range and takes a move action to change commands to the subject, so there's been enough time to get them to fight a bit more effectively. Do we think Sigdi shows up at some point? She's still around, right?
You'd think that inviting inside your sanctum a high level cleric, with a panoply of touch healing attacks that are lethal to undead, would be a bad idea for Greg, but I'm not seeing yet how Hilgya will break the compulsion.
Loving the updates, and I'm very eager to see how Durkon's plan against Greg turns out.
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2018-07-16, 07:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
How would it be a 'Deus Ex' if he did? He's a very high level fighter, with giant-level strength, and a super-greatsword purpose built for killing undead (and it returns when he throws it!), plus he's under an 8th-level mind-protection spell. All of that's been shown in earlier strips. He should be stacking and dusting vampires as fast as he can reach them. About the only thing he should be sweating are negative levels, and the sword protects against those too!
If anything, it's a bit inexplicable that these vamps have been giving the Order this much trouble.
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2018-07-16, 07:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
The glasses, I presume, not only hide the swirly eyes, but will also hide their absence. I bet once he breaks out of the domination, he'll pretend he's still under the influence, to then sneak a decisive blow on the vampires.
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2018-07-16, 07:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
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2018-07-16, 07:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
I don't think it'll be satisfying if Greg is distracted at a critical moment - I think it's more likely that Durkon will persuade him to forsake Hel somehow. There was the earlier clue about Greg absorbing some of Durkon's accent - I don't think Greg will turn good but he might decide to oppose Hel out of enlightened self-interest (or maybe even spite)... perhaps it'll be revealed that if Hel remakes the world the vampires' spirits will be destroyed, unlike mortal souls?
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2018-07-16, 07:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
The sword doesn't protect against negative levels. It may restore them in its healing surge effect. But assuming the effect that restored him in the Godsmoot fight was meant to be Heal, that's actually like the one thing Heal specifically doesn't fix (it's possible it's just 'you are restored to full condition' and not meant to evoke a specific in-game effect, but we don't really have a way to confirm one way or the other on that.)
I'll note that Roy was actually dusting spawn and possibly a few full (but likely low-level) Vampires about as quickly as he could take actions; the problem was he had to do it at range, and throwing and recalling the sword appears to be a full-round action. If they'd tried to swarm him in melee, you would have seen probably three to five of them getting dusted at a go from multiple attacks and Cleave. Since they didn't, he has to do it in a severely inefficient fashion.
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2018-07-16, 07:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
And Durkula forfeits. The agreement was Durkula lets Kudzu live at least until Hel destroys the world, Dwarfling Shield is clearly jeopardizing Kudzu's health, so it is not letting him live (being alive is not living, having an enjoyable existence is, the moment Kudzu cried, Durkula fotfeited). Since Durkula has violated the mental/spiritual/psychic contract, he forfeits all rights to actions and thoughts, he must cease all actions that would jeopardize Kudzu's well-being, including aiding Hel, and must actively endeavor to make Kudzu's life as long, happy, and fulfilling as Dwarvenly possible (this is why you NEVER violate Mental/Spiritual/Psychic Contracts, because you can never fully know what is in the subconscious and unconscious fine thoughtprint).
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2018-07-16, 08:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
Something about Tenrin's off-panel death has me churning up ideas.
I haven't thought this through or looked for clues and did super sleuthing like many folks here, and I don't see how it can relate to Durkon's plans. But, this is where the pieces are fitting together in my mind as I am trying to understand where we are going with this.
I am spoiling on the long shot chance any of this is correct.
Spoiler1. Tenrin's body was never found.
2. He was trapped deep in stone with a troll that regenerates and doesn't die from simple injuries, or even the weapons that Tenrin had on him. Tenrin could not slay the troll with the weapons he had on him, period.
3. It does not appear any attempts at True resurrection brought Tenrin back. Maybe, not even ever attempted.
4. I disagree with the idea the resurrection was used on Durkon the unborn child. I think the comic shows Fetus Durkon survived the cave-in.
5. True resurrection would not bring back a person who is alive, anyway.
6. Tenrin would therefore be trapped inside rock with a dangerous dragon-troll that constantly regenerates, as trolls do, but is trapped inside rock. Possibly providing Tenrin with a source of food, like the Hydra that was shown earlier in the comic which was still alive but regenerated. It provides a constant source of food, and it would have been a typical Giant foreshadowing technique to show us that something like this was possible in a gag comic from a long time ago.
7. Water can seep in through broken rocks, enough to keep Tenrin alive, along with his constant source of food.
8. Tenrin does not simply try to tunnel out, because if he does, he provides a way for the dragon-troll to also escape and terrorize the Dwarven village. Out of a sense of duty and protecting his family, he instead camps next to the dragon-troll for decades. He also cannot commit suicide, because then he cannot die with honor.
9. Vaarsuvius slays the dragon-troll inadvertently with the FAMILICIDE epic spell, not that long ago in-comic time. This provides Tenrin with the opportunity to finally escape, after all these years, since the troll is finally dead.
10. Present day, Tenrin could be about to appear, because he is now free. It was Tuesday, now, after midnight, it is Odin's day, Wednesday. He might show up in this particular hall, because he might need to find people to help him find his wife, and the rest of the place is deserted. And he figures since it is Odin's day, they are sure to end up assembling in this particular hall dedicated to the worship of Odin on his holiest day. (Do I have the days right?)
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That's the idea, such as it is.
However, I still think it might be more likely that Hilgya or Belkar are the ones more narratively equipped to turn the tide of battle. Possibly with a little help from our newest cleric added to the team, and Scruffy.
11. All I think Tenrin appearing would do would be to break Durkula's concentration, because he is Durkon on his worst day. His father suddenly appearing, alive, would surprise even Durkula himself and make him blow a concentration check.
12. Durkula's concentration is blown, and suddenly, Hilgya and Belkar are free.
13. Hilgya gets re-dominated because she is the most obvious imminent threat, but she manages to dispel the anti life shell and damage the other vampires heavily, Durkula included.
14. Then, Belkar alone is awake, not damaged, and not dominated. He activates his Protection From Mind Whammy Or Whatever clasp, and he cannot become re-dominated. Then he kicks the ass of his favored enemy, the undead man who stole Durkon away from us and tormented him just by existing, but also by his actions. Belkar stakes Durkula, redeeming himself and saving the entire order of the stick.
15. Now Durkon can finally be resurrected, and he is.
Problems:
It just isn't something Durkon can have planned, or known about in advance. So I think there's a different motive behind this backstory exposition. But getting Durkula into this particular hall was deliberate, and it has to do with it being Wednesday.
It's nice, but I don't think it completely fits. I am missing something even if any of this is right.
If you think this theory has any merit or not, please spoiler it if/when you discuss.
I have made several bad guesses so far. So I don't know how much I believe this.
I also like the Sabine idea someone had. Issue with that is she (Hilgya) was shown as pregnant in her exposition, and I believe it is real because of the family theme Giant has going on. She could be lying and deceiving, which she is almost compelled to do as her character. But something about it feels off.
I think it can happen, I just don't think it is exactly the solution. But hey, I wouldn't be surprised if none of us know nor can guess exactly what is about to happen. And if someone does, it won't be me, not with my track record.Last edited by Askthepizzaguy; 2018-07-16 at 08:26 PM.
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2018-07-16, 08:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
I'm not in any way convinced by this hypothesis, but it does have a few things going for it beyond this - starting with how Roy explicitly has Knowledge: Architecture ranks, and Durkon knows that. That said, it doesn't seem to fit in well with the memories we've seen or the whole concept of connections between memories - though there's still one memory to finish.
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2018-07-16, 08:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
I doubt Familicide has any relation to Sigdi's troll. It was immune to fire in the story, and black dragons are immune to acid.
THUNK and WHAP looks like a couple of power attacks in quick succession to me. Roy also seems to me the type to grab Subduing Strike as one of his bonus feats since he likes knocking fools out nonlethally so much.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
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2018-07-16, 08:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
Sudden thought after watching an old "Lois and Clark" episode: Lane Davies aka Tempus is probably the best possible choice to portray an animated or live action Xykon if either of those ever becomes reality--he was born in 1950 and Tempus' personality is a close match for pre-lich Xykon IMO. Just my two cents.
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2018-07-16, 08:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
Sudden thought after watching an old "Lois and Clark" episode: Lane Davies aka Tempus is probably the best possible choice to portray an animated or live action Xykon if either of those ever becomes reality--he was born in 1950 and Tempus' personality is a close match for pre-lich Xykon IMO. Just my two cents.
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2018-07-16, 08:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-07-16, 09:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
Get your adamantine steak knives! Only fifty easy payments of 60 gp. They never grow dull! No matter how tough your leader's armor is!
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2018-07-16, 09:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
May you never find yourself trying to make (and win) an argument like that in an actual court of law against a competent lawyer.
Lawful Evil doesnt' give two rips about how YOU interpret their promise. In fact, they will cackle with delight if you interpret them wrong. But they will not be bound by any more than precisely what they said, and even then good luck trying to get them to abandon THEIR position.
Besides, even if Greg did forfeit? Okay... then Durkon .... just doesnt' have to be quiet? Can keep offering more dstractions beyond the current memory?
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2018-07-16, 09:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1127 - The Discussion Thread
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2018-07-16, 09:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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