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2018-08-18, 08:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Just a note to say I'm not dead! Apologies for the delay, been struggling with executive dysfunction lately. I have 17 messages sitting in my inbox ready to be posted O_o
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2018-08-18, 09:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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we appreciate your work, Heliomance. Do it as time allows.
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2018-08-19, 09:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Looking forward to the reveal.
I'm sure mine won't be earth shattering, but I hope at least it looks a little different than the other builds...My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2018-08-19, 10:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2018-08-20, 08:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Here we go!
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2018-08-20, 08:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-08-20, 08:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-08-20, 08:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-08-20, 08:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-08-20, 08:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-08-20, 08:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-08-20, 08:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-08-20, 08:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-08-20, 08:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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And that's all! Go on, get judging!
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2018-08-20, 10:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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That is certainly a lot to take in, my idea that I couldn't get to float was a disable device expert that used several precarious wording situations to disable magical items with disable device, and then sunder them.
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2018-08-20, 10:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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"Song of Dissolution: A singular sound can sometimes be heard here and there, if briefly, among the many planes. When a mirror shatters, the note might be discerned. When a wall collapses, the ringing of the tone is somewhat stron- ger. When a city burns, the notes form a chord. And when a continent sinks beneath the waves, the song of dissolution plays out loud and strong—for those with the ears trained to hear. This mythical melody is something all Doomguard are eager to hear. Some theorize that should the tones ever be correctly recorded and formulated, a faction member with that song ringing in her body would have unparalleled power—his every utterance a curse, his every sword-stroke a killing blow, and his very presence, anathema."
I was going to use this quote from the Doom guard entry in the plainer handbook, on a rilkan sorcer with precocious Apprentice to get crystalline memories. Then I was going to take a bunch of listen based feats and skill tricks, on top of truenamer levels, and two levels of savant to pick up the memory eater feet from Lords of Madness as a prerequisite ignoring bonus feat.
Then all I had to do was Bear witness to tons of Destruction or eat things that witnessed said destruction. Then I could create a song made out of Destruction noises and make a mega mix in my crystalline memory crystals. This leads me to believe that every utterance would become a curse a la the song of dissolution, my every Sword stroke would become a killing blow, and if I picked up some yuanti template, I would be considered an anathema.
Between the Rilkins racial memory and the ability to eat memories, it seems like it could have workedLast edited by daremetoidareyo; 2018-08-20 at 10:18 AM.
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2018-08-20, 11:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Looking forward to reading everything. A brief scan shows some interesting entries.
I tried really hard to get a Hellbreaker build to work. I had the idea of a build that offensively used plane shift to send foes to a negative energy-dominant plane, and then the Hellbreaker's stowaway ability to hitch a ride and join them. Doomlord's negative energy adaptation would keep my Hellbreaker safe while the enemy was slowly drained into nothingness and wight-ified by the planar surroundings.
Unfortunately I found it near impossible to meet Hellbreaker's qualifications, get a good number of uses of plane shift at a decent DC *and* get into Doomlord in a timely manner. The very best I could do was Duskblade 3/Spellthief 1/Rogue 1/Ur-Priest 1/Hellbreaker 4/Doomlord 10, which required a flaw and Otyugh Hole to get all of the qualifying feats together, and even then only ended up with two uses of plane shift a day.
On the build I ended up going with, I actually had a much sillier idea in mind originally, but some aspects just wouldn't pan out. I won't go into details until after the reveal, since doing so would likely give away my current build, but it definitely involved bears.Optimization Showcase in the Playground
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2018-08-20, 11:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm glad to see (1) a lot of my discarded (not enough time to submit multiple builds) ideas used in builds here and (2) also no Vizinnis.
I'm kinda sad no one did Hexblade 5 / Abjurant Champion 5 / Doomlord 10; that was one of my top three build ideas.
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2018-08-20, 12:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Here's a quick base class usage table. The only thing heavily used is fighter; no surprise there, given the fighter feats required to enter the SI.
Entry Barbarian Bard Cleric Crusader Druid Fighter Marshal Monk Paladin Racial Paragon Ranger Sorceror Swordsage Warblade 1st - X - - - - - - - - - - - X 2nd - - - - X X - - - - - - - - 3rd - - - X - X - - - - - - - - 4th X - X X - - - - - - - - - - 5th - - - - - - - - X - - - - - 6th - - - - - X X - - - - X - - 7th X - - - - X X X - - - - - - 8th - - - X - X - - - X - - X - 9th - - - - - X - - X - X - - X TOTAL 2 1 1 3 1 6 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 2
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2018-08-20, 04:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Once again I had to fight my first urge with any half-caster PrC to go for an Ur Priest build.
Some nice entries in there - well done to all entrants.
Entry Chef Description First Judge Score Total Score Illazil ??? CN Killoren Bard 7/Warblade 3/Doomblade 10 - - Darin Blightblade ??? NE Illumian Druid 3/Fighter 2/Blighter 6/Doomlord 9 - - Sir Dorven ??? CG Human Crusader 1/Fighter 2/Crusader +2/Knight of the Weave 3/Doomlord 10/Abjurant Champion 2 - - Archimede ??? CN Human Barbarian 1/Cleric 4/Crusader 1/Deadgrim 5/Doomlord 9 - - Roderick Rabelais ??? LE Human Holy Warrior Paladin of Tyranny 6/Blackguard 1/Doomlord 10/Blackguard 4 - - Katu d'Xen'Drik ??? CN Primordial Half-Giant Marshal 1/ Dungeon Crasher Fighter 2/Stalwart Battle Sorcerer 4/Spellsword 2/Doomlord 10 - - Caleb Praedo ??? (?) Human (?) Barbarian 1/Monk 2/Fighter 6/Marshal 1/Doomlord 10 - - Mikhail the Liberator ??? CG Human Unarmed Swordsage 2/Fighter 2/Crusader 1/Human Paragon 3/Apostle of Peace 2/Doomlord 10 - - Tom's Character ??? CG Goliath Ranger 1/Fighter 2/Paladin of Freedom of Kord 2/Warblade 1/Ranger 1/Divine Crusader of Kord 1/Doomlord 10/ Crusader 1 - - Last edited by Thurbane; 2018-08-21 at 03:07 PM.
My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2018-08-20, 06:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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This is what I had come up with prior to work sucking me in.
Spoiler: Build tableLevel Class Base Attack Bonus Fort Save Reflex Save Will Save Skills Feats Class Features 1st Barbarian +1 +2 +0 +0 - Power Attack Fast movement, illiteracy, rage 1/day 2nd Barbarian +2 +3 +0 +0 - - Uncanny dodge 3rd Battle Sorcerer +2 +3 +0 +2 - Combat Casting Summon Familiar, Arcane Spell Casting 4th Battle Sorcerer +3 +3 +0 +3 - - - 5th Battle Sorcerer +4 +4 +1 +3 - - - 6th Battle Sorcerer +5 +4 +1 +4 - Weapon Focus (Greatsword) - 7th Rage Mage +5 +6 +1 +4 - - Spell rage 1/day 8th Rage Mage +6/+1 +7 +1 +4 - - Overcome spell failure, +1 level of Sorcerer spellcasting 9th Rage Mage +7/+2 +7 +2 +5 - Improved Sunder Rage +1 use/day 10th Doomlord +8/+3 +9 +2 +5 - - Entropic blow 1/day, healing resistance 11th Doomlord +9/+4 +10 +2 +5 - Endurance Destructive expertise, +1 level of Sorcerer spellcasting 12th Doomlord +10/+5 +10 +3 +6 - Arcane Strike Negative adaptation 13th Doomlord +11/+6/+1 +11 +3 +6 - - +1 level of Sorcerer spellcasting 14th Doomlord +12/+7/+2 +11 +3 +6 - - Entropic blow 2/day 15th Doomlord +13/+8/+3 +12 +4 +7 - Diehard, Extra Rage +1 level of Sorcerer spellcasting 16th Doomlord +14/+9/+4 +12 +4 +7 - - Unmaking magic 17th Doomlord +15/+10/+5 +13 +4 +7 Balance 5
Concentration 15
Intimidate 12
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Tumble 9- +1 level of Sorcerer spellcasting 18th Doomlord +16/+11/+6/+1 +13 +5 +8 Balance 5
Concentration 17
Intimidate 12
Jump 5
Listen 11
Tumble 9.5Intimidating Rage Disintegrate 19th Doomlord +17/+12/+7/+2 +14 +5 +8 Balance 5
Concentration 19
Intimidate 12
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2018-08-21, 01:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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I had zero ideas related to actually optimizing the class. My entry was just going to be an elaborate series of escalating puns.
You see, he was going to start as a nobody whose job was mostly sweeping and cleaning up, and he was going to be known as the Broomlord.
He was going to learn Druid magic and become known as the Bloomlord.
I had an episode planned out where he became the leader of a tribe of myconids and became the Shroomlord (or, if you wanna get some Mario up in here, the Goomlord, because myconids are goombas and you will never convince me otherwise).
He would start as illiterate (start as Barbarian) and eventually learn about grammar with a level of Truenamer, becoming the Whomlord.
He would have taken up Craft: Weaving and become the Loomlord.
After gaining a marked speed increase, he would take up the mantle of the Zoomlord.
He was going to start digging up bodies and become the Exhumelord. Perhaps the very bodies that he buried as the Entomblord.
After he took up anonymous writing, he became known as the Nom-de-plumelord.
Upon getting married, of course, he was the Groomlord.
When the SI gave him resistance to negative energy, he would spend some time sulking on the NEP and become the Gloomlord.
(He might, in preparation, spend some time prepping for that last one as the Tomblord.)
At the levels where the SI gives a CHA increase? Say hello to the Va-va-voomlord!
After learning Fireball or a few other blast spells, he would be known as the Kaboomlord. (Not to be confused with his stint as the Boomlord, when he mostly focused on sonic damage.)
He would perhaps be a raptoran, and upon gaining his true flight, he would be known as the Plumelord.
He would learn about alchemy and make gaseous grenades, as is appropriate for the Fumelord. (Though he may create more pleasant things under the title of the Perfumelord.)
He would return to something he started earlier, as he is, after all, the Resumelord.
A few ranks in Profession: Peanut Farmer are necessary for anyone who wishes to become the Legumelord.
If we could swing polymorphing into a barghest, we could get away with being the Consumelord. (Or perhaps the Subsumelord?)
Some clever tactics with channeling water would net him the title of the Flumelord.
The pièce de résistance, of course, is found here:
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Pictured: a man running out of uses of Entropic Blow.
. . . Why yes, this is the Roomlord.
I gave up on "Womblord" because I knew that there was absolutely no joke that could be made there that wouldn't be offensive in some way, shape, or form.
Oh, and the character's name was going to be Hookline. Geddit? Geddit? Hookline the Sinker? I kill me!Last edited by Zaq; 2018-08-21 at 01:21 AM.
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2018-08-21, 01:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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2018-08-21, 08:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Dishes have been added to the ICO Spreadsheet for this cook.
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My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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2018-08-21, 04:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Iron Chef Optimisation Challenge in the Playground XCIV
the idea I wanted to run with was something like
silverbrow human warlock 1/cc1 strength devotion,war, knowledge devotion, pouncebarb 1, totemist x, doomlord x, warblade 1 somewhere where I can get 3rd level maneuvers
I wanted psionics as well, trying to find all the things that break stuff. bind vestige aym for double dmg to objects, shape soulmeld astral vambraces, and using pounce and a bunch of soulmelds to go with sundering cleave and do my best to wreck everything someone has in a round then dismantle them. spell component pouch only have held item a.c. so they easy to break. get shatter invocation for ranged stuff.
there was a consumptive field esque near gish I considered using planar bubble as well, but work ot got the best of me.
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2018-08-21, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Just a general question for future rounds: the rules clearly state no Dragon magazine materials (except Compendium and the OA update).
Say there is a cleric domain in a rule-book that is an accepted source (SC or similar), but the only place a particular deity is listed as having access to that domain is in Dragon magazine....would that be kosher for IC or not? I'm assuming no, but thought it was worth checking.My winning competition entries: Kinvig Arrumskor | The Great Pumpkinhead | Wynfrith d'Acker
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Except for in Forgotten Realms (and even then, theres a way or two) concept cleric’s are perfectly valid build options, as long as you don’t use a deity specific prc