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    Default Re: Erfworld 77, page 71

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganurath View Post
    It's worse when you add the angry faces on the Archons in the thinkagram. That smile is just plain wolfish. The only way Ansom survives this is if he gets something fun and angry off panel in the near future.
    The most likely reason that two of the Archons were upset is due to the third Archon giving away freebies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.I.P. Manpower View Post
    If Jillians sword could be resized, as people are suggesting, I would expect that the scaling would be linear, that is that all proportions would be maintained.
    That would greatly decrease the usefulness of the weapon. The last thing you want in a stabbing weapon is a wide blade with a relatively blunt end.

    She might be able to switch between fixed blade styles. I will buy the idea that the dagger is a different weapon when someone explains to me why you would ever want a long, two-handed pommel on a one-handed stabbing weapon meant for use in close quarters.
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    Default Re: Erfworld 77, page 71

    Quote Originally Posted by lamech View Post
    I don't remember anytime in which the sword was in hammerspace. The sword is often hidden and off camera, but not really disappeared.
    Same diff.
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    Default Re: Erfworld 77, page 71

    Quote Originally Posted by Wender View Post
    That would greatly decrease the usefulness of the weapon. The last thing you want in a stabbing weapon is a wide blade with a relatively blunt end.

    She might be able to switch between fixed blade styles. I will buy the idea that the dagger is a different weapon when someone explains to me why you would ever want a long, two-handed pommel on a one-handed stabbing weapon meant for use in close quarters.
    In panels 3 and 4, she doesn't have it, and in panel 1 the BFS is not visible, so it would appear she draws it between panels 4 and 5. Now, why would she want a long pommeled dagger?

    -Maybe the blade is some sort of Erfian metal and very heavy, the long pommel mere acts as a counter-balance
    -She is used to and prefers the BFS style pommel and has developed a long pommeled dagger style as her backup weapon
    -The long pommel is meant to mimic the BFS pommel and is just for show. If she were to lose the BFS she could put the dagger in its scabbard to throw enemies off

    Also, that's an awfully long dagger (I'd say almost 10") so it might be used as a slashing weapon in some cases.
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    Let me propose this series of events o the "long handled dagger"

    between pannels 4 and five she draws a dagger from her belt.

    In panel 5 Manpower drops the sword.

    Between panels 5 and 7 she catches his sword and stabbities the dragon.

    So in panel 7 you are seeing manpowers sword.

    Her hands would be positioned for such a thing so it is possible.
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    Default Re: Erfworld 77, page 71

    Quote Originally Posted by Jari Kafghan View Post
    So in panel 7 you are seeing manpowers sword.
    Panel 5 : Jillian has dagger, Manpower has sword!

    In panel 4 it almost looks like Jillian has her hand in the Dwagon's mouth...maybe she pulled the dagger out of there...something from a previous victim!

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    Default Re: Erfworld 77, page 71

    But he is dropping the sword in panel 5. I say she dropped the dagger to grab his sword, so its not even the same weapon from one panel to the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jari Kafghan View Post
    Let me propose this series of events o the "long handled dagger"

    between pannels 4 and five she draws a dagger from her belt.

    In panel 5 Manpower drops the sword.

    Between panels 5 and 7 she catches his sword and stabbities the dragon.

    So in panel 7 you are seeing manpowers sword.

    Her hands would be positioned for such a thing so it is possible.
    The pommel of Manpower's sword (see panel 4) doesn't look at all like that of Jillian's sword -- Manpower's sword has a curved pommel with a spur at the end.

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    I wouldn't have thought that she would grab Manpower's sword when she is capable of croaking a small army with a pair of chopsticks...a dagger would then seem enough to kill a badly wouned / near death Dwagon!

    Much as I don't like the idea of the BFS resizing & shaping without any indication of it, I am also of the opinion that if she had lost it and that that was important, we would have been shown the BFS dropping!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveMB View Post
    The pommel of Manpower's sword (see panel 4) doesn't look at all like that of Jillian's sword -- Manpower's sword has a curved pommel with a spur at the end.
    I noticed that, but if you get it from the right angle it could look like that. Take it I am playing devils advocate, cause the idea of her sword changing shape bugs me so I am trying out other options. If I find out that is the case so be it.
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    Default Re: Erfworld 77, page 71

    If this has been answered in this thread, just tell me, but I really REALLY could not, at all, tell who the heck was speaking in the panels. It's very confusing, adding yet another layer of confusion onto this already complicated comic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darken Rahl View Post
    If this has been answered in this thread, just tell me, but I really REALLY could not, at all, tell who the heck was speaking in the panels. It's very confusing, adding yet another layer of confusion onto this already complicated comic.
    In this order:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jari Kafghan View Post
    In this order:

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    Parson
    Tool
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    Parson's speech is in a different font; Wanda and the Tool are clearly distinguished by context (and usually because Wanda speaks in a more highbrow manner, though not in this case).

    Panel 1: Wanda ("No."); Parson replies.

    Panel 2: Parson continues; Wanda replies ("Please.")

    Panel 3: Parson asks Stanley to settle it ("Tool?"); Stanley backs him up ("Yeah." "Croak her.")

    Panel 4: Parson gives instructions.

    Panel 8: Stanley gives an oh-so-helpful heads-up that Ansom is in the hex, mere moments after Parson has already noticed and made an unsuccessful attempt to respond. Parson expresses his exasperation.
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    Default Re: Erfworld 77, page 71

    Thanks, that makes it much more understandable. :)

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    I want a new page so bad I can taste it.

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    'Old fool!' he said. 'Old fool! This is my hour. Do you not know Death when you see it? Die now and curse in vain!' And with that he lifted high his sword and flames ran down the blade.

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    Default Re: Erfworld 77, page 71

    Two things:
    1. I think the point of the sword is angled towards the "camera." Forshortening the blade makes it look like a dagger.

    2. Indeed, I'm wondering where the new strip is. It's been eight days. What's going on? Why no news?

    And before you point me to the ""Erfworld is now random" page," I already saw it. The explanation was that Cons were eating up massive amounts of time, but by now the Cons should be over.

    Things have been painfully slow for over two months. Kick it into high gear, please.
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    Default Re: Erfworld 77, page 71

    Yeah! Get to work! What do we pay you for!

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    That's a pretty disingenuous statement. I mean, if someone is putting content up in a public forum for comment and consideration, one of the things that's going to happen if your content is enjoyable is that people may say "Hey, that's really good - can we have some more please?"

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    Yeah, the authors/artists have, unfortunately, been 75% inconsistent with their posting.

    I seem to recall reading once that it took one of them 27 hours to do the lettering...for one earlier episode.

    Excuse me?

    I hope they were kidding. I really do. Because that kind of stuff shouldn't happen for a webcomic like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMeanDM View Post
    I seem to recall reading once that it took one of them 27 hours to do the lettering...for one earlier episode.

    Excuse me?

    I hope they were kidding. I really do. Because that kind of stuff shouldn't happen for a webcomic like this.
    I've spent a fair amount of time fiddling with the lettering on various motivational-poster parodies and remixes in the LOLErf thread. I'm pretty sure that Rob's standards for an acceptable final comic page are tougher than mine for a relatively minor gag piece.

    I can believe that it takes quite a bit of time to work out issues like adjusting character spacing and size to produce good-looking and readable dialog boxes while blocking out as little of the artwork as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMeanDM View Post
    Yeah, the authors/artists have, unfortunately, been 75% inconsistent with their posting.

    I seem to recall reading once that it took one of them 27 hours to do the lettering...for one earlier episode.

    Excuse me?

    I hope they were kidding. I really do. Because that kind of stuff shouldn't happen for a webcomic like this.
    For a three-panel strip? No. Those only take 3 hours. For a lavishly produced full-pager like this? Sure.

    You cannot hope to judge the amount of time it takes to produce something by the amount of time it would take to reproduce that thing. With as many panels and as many characters and as much dialog as this strip juggles in any given update, I can easily imagine it taking that long. And then you scrunch it down for the web and something unexpectedly turns into oatmeal and you have to go back and fiddle with it until it can survive a trip through the compression algorithm, and then what does it look like at print quality?

    Erfworld is an ambitious undertaking.

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    Yeah, Erfworld is high quality.

    Because of the stuffed animals and larger than life heads it may appear simple at first glance. When I re-read the whole story a second time taking more leisure I noticed a lot of wonderful details.

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    Default Re: Erfworld 77, page 71

    1. I think the point of the sword is angled towards the "camera." Forshortening the blade makes it look like a dagger.
    Look at Jillian's hand it sure doesn't look angled to a high degree towards the camera and certainly not enough to shorten the sword as much as it is.

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    The sword was never in the dwagon's mouth. What you see in its mouth in panel 3 is Jillian's left arm. If you examine the pattern on the object in the dwagon's mouth in panel 3, it matches the pattern of her right upper arm armor in the second-to-last panel. Then you see her arm and part of her hand in panel 4 in the dwagon's mouth. And finally she's managed to pry the dwagon's mouth open a bit and move her left arm to what I suppose is a more comfortable position and pulled her sword out of its sheath with her right hand, or hammerspace, or her butt, or wherever it was.

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