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    I don't follow sports closely, so these are honest questions.

    Was it he specifically who caused the losses? Does his team have worse players than him of the court with him? Did the other teams do a great job and earn their wins?

    Even Michael Jordan and Babe Ruth lost games.
    From all the basketball fans I know, Lebron was basically carrying the Cavs on his back. Meanwhile the Warriors are positively stacked so it's no surprise they won the Finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by An Enemy Spy View Post
    From all the basketball fans I know, Lebron was basically carrying the Cavs on his back. Meanwhile the Warriors are positively stacked so it's no surprise they won the Finals.
    Exactly. In these last Finals, the Cavs had LeBron and no other of the top 25 players in basketball--unless you want to count the Cavs version of Kevin Love, which I do not. The Warriors had two of the best five (Curry and Durant) and two more of the best 25 (Thompson and Green).

    LeBron is still a wonderful player and still probably the best all-around player in basketball, if not the best full stop. Any talk of his retirement is incredibly premature.

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    From all the basketball fans I know, Lebron was basically carrying the Cavs on his back. Meanwhile the Warriors are positively stacked so it's no surprise they won the Finals.
    This is the old Wilt vs Russell battle. Yes Russell had the rings, but also played with a team of other Hall of Famers while Wilt looked like Atlas.

    Ok we're nerds; if we cloned Lebron James and made him into a five man team, would he beat 5 Jordans? 5 Wilts? 5 Magics? Would any other great beat him?
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    This is the old Wilt vs Russell battle. Yes Russell had the rings, but also played with a team of other Hall of Famers while Wilt looked like Atlas.

    Ok we're nerds; if we cloned Lebron James and made him into a five man team, would he beat 5 Jordans? 5 Wilts? 5 Magics? Would any other great beat him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet Knight View Post
    This is the old Wilt vs Russell battle. Yes Russell had the rings, but also played with a team of other Hall of Famers while Wilt looked like Atlas.

    Ok we're nerds; if we cloned Lebron James and made him into a five man team, would he beat 5 Jordans? 5 Wilts? 5 Magics? Would any other great beat him?
    I think 5 LeBrons would handle any other team of 5 players except for 5 Jordans. That one would come down to whether the LeBrons could make their superior physicality and better court vision tell against the superior dribbling and quicker hands of the Jordans, which I suspect they would. The thing about LeBron that makes him perfect for the clone team is that he probably isn't the best historically at any one skill in the game viewed independently, but he's got almost all of those skills at an elite level (save his free-throw shooting, which is mediocre, and his three-point shooting, which is merely good). That versatility essentially magnifies the quality of all his skills, because opponents find it very hard to exploit a weakness or predict what he will do next. So if you multiply him by five, you have a team of generalists who can fill specialist roles at a very high level of competence, and will be able to pull off a lot of different combinations of play. If you multiply just about any other player by five, they'll struggle to fill all the roles needed and get enough variety in their approach.

    On the rings debate, although it's unfair to LeBron the player, who's dragged several teams to the Finals that had no business being there, it may not be unfair to LeBron the person or LeBron the pseudo-GM. He's not a great influence on team chemistry, he's not been great about sharing the limelight or the load with younger players, he's pushed for his teams to sign buddies of his who aren't good enough, and he's held teams to ransom with short contracts and will-he-won't-he drama that make it hard to build a good long-term contender.

    In case you can't tell, I find LeBron interesting

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    Tonight is the first time since I was in high school that the Milwaukee Brewers have been tied for first in their division.
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    UWW is 4-0 to start the season! Downing their first WIAC opponent in 25th ranked UW-La Crosse, the Warhawks scored 27 unanswered points in a 30-7 win at UWLC.

    Senior QB Cole Wilber threw for 244 yards and 3 touchdowns (all to three different receivers), while Soph RB Alex Peete ran for 102 yards and added a late TD to seal the deal.

    The turning point in the game came in the fourth, when Junior DB Garrett Purdy intercepted Eagles' QB Ben Schramski on their first play from scrimmage after UWW had upped the score to 17-7.

    Whitewater will continue the WIAC schedule by facing the always-tough (and 13th ranked) UW-Oshkosh at Perkins Stadium next Saturday.
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    For the first time in MLB history, there will be two game 163 tiebreakers.

    Colorado will host Los Angeles in the NL West Tiebreaker, while the Chicago Cubs will host the Milwaukee Brewers in the I-94 War NL Central Tiebreaker.
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    In other news, the Patriots demolish a divisional opponent and the Browns find new and exciting ways to lose. Seems like the "Hey, let's do it a bit differently this year" experiment has only lasted for about 3 weeks.

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    Today begins the NHL season! I have no idea what to expect of my Canadiens, but I hope that Kotkaniemi will make a good show and make games pleasant to watch even if we lose.

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    Today begins the NHL season! I have no idea what to expect of my Canadiens, but I hope that Kotkaniemi will make a good show and make games pleasant to watch even if we lose.
    I'll be happy just to get back to the playoffs.

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    Hey, good luck with Shea as your captain up there. We'd really like it if you could make sure he's still playing for about (checks calendar) oh, maybe 2023 or so?
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    First match was a good match, even if we lost. Entertaining from start to finish, and Price was pretty damn solid, saving the game at several junctions.

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    Gameday. Preds at the Rags. May the best team to recently make the Stanley Cup Finals win. ;)
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    Predators Win. Brewers Win. Good day all around.
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    It wasn't the last one, was it? That was the one I went to. (And I got the A's hat to prove it.)
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    UWW shut out the Titans, 20-0! Game was won on two long TD passes in the 2ND and 3rd quarters, while the D did the rest.
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    Khabib "The Eagle" Nurmagomedov!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, that was a fight. Too bad for all the antics afterwards but hey, when you bring forty dudes and throw a dolly at his bus you got to expect something in return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrell1978 View Post
    Khabib "The Eagle" Nurmagomedov!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, that was a fight. Too bad for all the antics afterwards but hey, when you bring forty dudes and throw a dolly at his bus you got to expect something in return.
    They should definitely make the "posse battle royale" a part of the fight card now. To win the match you have to win both.
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    They should definitely make the "posse battle royale" a part of the fight card now. To win the match you have to win both.
    Lol. Well......they did. But seriously, not a fan of that extra bs, but it's not like he wasn't super provoked. I can give him more of a pass on this than I can Connor for all the bs he brought to Brooklyn over what amounted to a heated conversation.
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    Khabib "The Eagle" Nurmagomedov!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, that was a fight. Too bad for all the antics afterwards but hey, when you bring forty dudes and throw a dolly at his bus you got to expect something in return.
    The fans surely got more than their money's worth.

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    GO BREWERS GO!

    For the third time in franchise history, the Brewers are heading to the League Championship Series!
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    The fans surely got more than their money's worth.
    It's kind of funny when a legit combat sports event manages to look more like a chaotic drama circus than the WWE show on the same weekend.

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    All I have to say is:

    #BeatLA
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    Heck yeah, the NBA is back.
    Heck no, the Timberwolves are a tire fire due to the whole Jimmy Butler trade drama and practice and shenanigans...

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    #$%& ing Red Sox...
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    Apparently not a lot of NFL fans here?


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    Oh, I'm an NFL fan. I just prefer to focus on one of the 32 teams.

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    I'm a Giants fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    I'm a Giants fan.
    My condolences.

    That applies if you live on either coast, by the way.
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