Things You Never Noticed VI: The Undiscovered Detail

[bc56]

The next one should be "Gate? What gate?"

[The Linker]

Until today, I had never noticed that the big splash panel in 841 is bigger in the print copy of the book. It gets a thicker border instead of the standard panel frame used in the web version, but also adds some art to the top and bottom that isn't seen online. Not significantly different, but it doesn't cut off the illustration of the dragon on the wall, making it even more obvious.

The drawing above Elan? Heh, it's hardly drawn in any more in my copy than what you see online. It just kinda... stops.

For another online-to-book difference, just two strips earlier, 839's book version has a bigger splash of the pyramid coming into view (three-quarters of a page rather than half), and also has an entirely new quarter-page piece of artwork showing the order searching the area.

[facw]

The drawing above Elan? Heh, it's hardly drawn in any more in my copy than what you see online. It just kinda... stops.

For another online-to-book difference, just two strips earlier, 839's book version has a bigger splash of the pyramid coming into view (three-quarters of a page rather than half), and also has an entirely new quarter-page piece of artwork showing the order searching the area.

Yeah it just shows a little more (top of the wings, and a bit more of the neck head). Enough to go from that could be a dragon to that's definitely a dragon in my mind.

Thanks for pointing the other strip difference as well.

[Quebbster]

I don't Think I paid any attention to what Mr Scruffy did in the phantasm in the pyramid.

[Lord Torath]

I didn't notice that the title of the last thread was a pun at first...

A pun? I'm seeing an allusion (to Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country), but I'm not seeing a pun.

Last. "Things You Never Noticed V: Your Familiar."

Whoops! Failed my spot check!

[Ruck]

Heh, I just realized that the incident that sets off Nale's hatred of Elan-- Elan's rejection of Nale's offer to form their own team-- is one where Roy, at the time, would have definitely disagreed with Elan's reasoning were he there.

You know, Elan, once I have the Talisman, you and I can leave this place together and start a new team.
I couldn't abandon Roy. He needs my help.
That's okay. I mean, family first. We'll find a way to pull through without you.

[Gift Jeraff]

Ponchula's magic aura was originally black before changing to green for the big fight scene.

[The Linker]

Just now, when I was re-reading Durkon's final memory flashback, I was curious if that blond dwarf who says "I grabbed this [chest] on the way out" was actually in the flashback that was the story Uncle Thirden told.

Turns out, not only do you see the dwarf, you see him running for that very chest while the fighting's going on.

[Gift Jeraff]

I just noticed yet another "foreshadowing V's deal" moment in Book 3's recap:

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After a brief interlude in a forest which had no bearing upon the plot whatsoever—but did allow me the opportunity to slay a black dragon virtually single-handedly—the Order was beset upon by a lone assailant.

In the PDF version of Book 5 you can more clearly see the parts of the illusion after Elan's dinosaur ride:
-Hinjo and Lien are handing the OOTS blue medals (I always assumed this to be the case but now I see the actual medals)
-the OOTS and O-Chul are attending one of the MITD's tea parties and the OOTS apparently still perceives O-Chul as having only 1 scar
-Elan gets a lollipop (I previously thought this was either Elan bringing a flower to Therkla's grave or Elan giving a flower to his mother to setup the remarriage in the next 2 strips)
-V, Haley, Roy, and Elan are standing around together (it lacks details at this point)
-Roy and Durkon
-several panels consisting of circles and rectangular shapes
-the rest are just purple all the way down

[Rodin]

I just noticed that in 1134 the "fluffy clouds" they're working on are actually the fur on Thor's boots. What's more, on the big splash of Thor, you can see Durkon and Minrah. When I first read the comic, I assumed they were off-screen on the fluffy clouds off-screen at the base of Thor's boots.

[Ruck]

I just realized that Haley's dialogue to Celia in #573, panel 1, is word-for-word the same as her dialogue to Vaarsuvius in #3, panel 1.

[Joerg]

I just noticed that (according to Durkon) a member of the dwarven army who leaves their post is hanged. Quite a harsh punishment since it must be a dishonorable death, sending the soul to Hel. I would probably give the delinquent at least a chance, perhaps with a suicide mission.

[Quebbster]

I just noticed that (according to Durkon) a member of the dwarven army who leaves their post is hanged. Quite a harsh punishment since it must be a dishonorable death, sending the soul to Hel. I would probably give the delinquent at least a chance, perhaps with a suicide mission.

It is meant as a harsh punishment. Deserting your post is dishonorable, why should a deserter be given a chance for an honorable death?

[Kish]

Because if you don't, they have every reason to resist the arresting officer/executioner with deadly force, with nothing to lose and much to gain?

[Joerg]

Also, one could argue that everyone deserves a second chance (a very good example is a character in HtPghS) and that errors of justice do happen, in this case with terrible consequences. But a deeper discussion should probably get its own thread.

[Fyraltari]

Durkon* parroted here wwhat Durkon said here under similar circumstances. Another hint of 1130?

[martianmister]

Durkon* parroted here wwhat Durkon said here under similar circumstances. Another hint of 1130?

A hint of Napoleon Complex?

[Ruck]

I just realized that the joke about outsourcing customer service here is that Pandemonium customer service has been outsourced to Mechanus.

[godsflunky]

Wow, I never would have seen that. Good eye. And it's such a logical outsourcing, too, on so many levels!

1) Pandemonium probably couldn't get its act together
2) Mechanus makes sense as an alternative
3) It will undoubtedly make customer service even more hellish

[b_jonas]

I never noticed that in #928, when Vaarsuvius proposes that everyone should attack Miron, she was probably trying to cause Miron's Contingency spell to trigger, because she could have known that Miron uses such a Contingency spell from Sabine giving her hints about the Vector legion while they met in hell, as revealed in the end of #935.

[Quebbster]

I never noticed that in #928, when Vaarsuvius proposes that everyone should attack Miron, she was probably trying to cause Miron's Contingency spell to trigger, because she could have known that Miron uses such a Contingency spell from Sabine giving her hints about the Vector legion while they met in hell, as revealed in the end of #935.

Yeah, I figured that too when rereading. We know V was warned about the need to be careful when fighting Laurin, which led to the initial "keep the distance" strategy to get Laurin to burn her energy making wormholes. Once the distance was closed the strategy shifted to "gang pile on the scarf guy", there had to be a reason they didn't focus on Laurin first (as the last panel in 928 shows...

[Fyraltari]

When Fenrir speaks of pissing on the world's people graves, he is being completely literal and probably has done so before.

[Peelee]

When Fenrir speaks of pissing on the world's people graves, he is being completely literal and probably has done so before.

I'll bet that makes him popular.

[Resileaf]

When Fenrir speaks of pissing on the world's people graves, he is being completely literal and probably has done so before.

And on the page right afterwards, on the first panel, I just noticed that when Greg says assumed, the first three letters are a little more bolded than the rest.

[Quebbster]

When Belkar has his crisis of conscience during the Battle of Azure City, obviously I got that the two devils (or whatever they are) both represent his Evil side, and the fact that the Angel "doesn't work here any more" means there is very little Good in him at that Point.
However, I hadn't really considered that the line "it's just us and the Slaad" may be a callback to Elan's earlier crisis of conscience, and that it means there is also very little Lawful representation in Belkar's brain. Not exactly a surprise, but as I said I hadn't realized how neatly it fit together.

[Gift Jeraff]

Haley's mark in the ninja panel is an Azurite.

Belkar says "they keep sailing away," but only 1 person was on both of the ships that sailed away from him and Haley (Elan).

[Peelee]

Therkla's name is misspelled on the Kickstarter Workometer.

[martianmister]

Haley's mark in the ninja panel is an Azurite.

Which proves that Rich already planned Azure City plot by that time.

[Peelee]

Which proves that Rich already planned Azure City plot by that time.

I mean, it's the strip after Shojo ordering Miko to bring the Order to him, so I don't think that was ever in doubt.

[Grey_Wolf_c]

Which proves that Rich already planned Azure City plot by that time.

Or that the entire Azure plot is a reference to that one panel. Richard Burlew: going to go to any lengths to one-off joke work.
(but seriously, I agree with your assessment)
Grey Wolf