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    I just noticed, when re-reading the book, that in #122, the apple merchant hurries to change into more revealing clothes.

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    At strip 1130, Durkon was at first talking about Sigdi as "my mom", but then, he called her "our mom" while talking to HPoH.
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    In #1129, FHPoH briefly mimics Durkon's accent in their internal dialogue, possibly for the only time (unless someone knows of a prior example).

    As others have pointed out in this thread, he continued to use Durkon-isms unnecessarily after his cover was blown ("Now who's the short one?" and "wouldn't have anything to learn"), but I think it's interesting that he does it internally right before he gets memory-sledged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aveline View Post
    In #1129, FHPoH briefly mimics Durkon's accent in their internal dialogue, possibly for the only time (unless someone knows of a prior example).
    He goes from saying "something" to "somethin'" in #963, hence Durkon's emphasis on the word. In #1130 he says "unnerstand" in his second-to-last speech balloon before the "merge" or whatever.

    I also recall him saying "tha" or "wha" at some random point in the story. Can't seem to find it, though.
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    There’s a typo in 435. Belkar says “Can I say yes stongly enough?”
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    Quote Originally Posted by gift jeraff View Post
    he goes from saying "something" to "somethin'" in #963, hence durkon's emphasis on the word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gift Jeraff View Post
    I also recall him saying "tha" or "wha" at some random point in the story. Can't seem to find it, though.
    Found what I was thinking of, but I think it's a typo: "Walk up to Roy an ask him" (second-to-last panel). Normally it'd be "an'," like the 4th panel in #1132.
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    I am surprised at the dialogue in #166, panel 1. I would expect Vaarsuvius to be the one to care about the distinction between sorcerers and wizards, and also to not be the one to care about gender specifications.

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    I somehow didn’t notice anything about #950, including the cinematic atmospherics of the last few panels and the Mechane’s bumper sticker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruck View Post
    I am surprised at the dialogue in #166, panel 1. I would expect Vaarsuvius to be the one to care about the distinction between sorcerers and wizards, and also to not be the one to care about gender specifications.
    V is very inconsistent about the whole gender thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martianmister View Post
    V is very inconsistent about the whole gender thing.
    This is nitpicky grammatical gender correction, not biological gender. V might not have been able to tell you if it was a sorcerer or sorceress in advance, but they can tell that "she" and "sorcerer" don't go together.

    (As to why they knew which gender to pick: they likely know that Haley is less likely to make a mistake sexing humans than they are in grammatical correctness)

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    Technically, they're entirely wrong. WotC released a design document that spelled out their standards in that area, and they involve no gender for classes; an official stat block for Samantha would declare her a "Female Human Sorcerer."
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    I just noticed that in strip #352 Durkon is casting Control weather from a scroll. As opposed to "as one of his personal spells".
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    Not sure if this qualifies, but I discovered when reading d20srd.org that Death Attack is an actual ability. I thought it was just something Crystal liked to yell.

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    Not sure if this qualifies, but I discovered when reading d20srd.org that Death Attack is an actual ability. I thought it was just something Crystal liked to yell.
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    Last panel: foreshadowing the fate of Tsukiko's corpse?
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    Last panel: foreshadowing the fate of Tsukiko's corpse?
    Oooh, I like it. Especially considering that most of the strip is her explaining the self-delusions that would ultimately contribute to that fate.

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    Colour scheme of Xykon clothes are darker version of Superman's suit (obvious in 12th panel), and quite similar to colours of Superman from Man of Steel movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martianmister View Post
    Colour scheme of Xykon clothes are darker version of Superman's suit (obvious in 12th panel), and quite similar to colours of Superman from Man of Steel movie.

    I expect Tsukiko wanted him to wear a Superman outfit.
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    Why would what Tsukiko wants have any effect on what Xykon does?
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    The guy on the left in the second panel of 274 looks like he's either jumping over or stepping on the dog.

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    The guy on the left in the second panel of 274 looks like he's either jumping over or stepping on the dog.
    Nah. Shojo's shaky telling of the story realized in art is just wonky that way.
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    Noticed on rereading: just as Tarquin slips off of Mechane in 936, Elan tells him, "Don't worry, you'll live." That's what Tarquin told Elan in 929 before he stabbed Roy through him.

    Also in 936, Tarquin assumes that Elan didn't lose anything and there was no growth in the arc; but Elan feels Nale's death as a loss. And his line, "I'm not a twin anymore," shows that he did grow as a character. He sounds so sombre when he says it. The very fact that Elan's willing to let go of his father shows how much he grew during that arc.

    Thinking of that, it's no coincidence that Elan learnt some really useful stuff when he first leveled after Therkla's death. The Neutralise poison is a nobrainer, but the rest is useful, too.

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    The guy on the left in the second panel of 274 looks like he's either jumping over or stepping on the dog.
    He's just unleashing the fury.
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    In the Start of Darkness:
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    Professor X parody is killed by his student, just like Xavier's actual death in the comics.
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    Xykon was never the Professor's student. He tried to recruit Xykon, who murdered him out of indignation.

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    Xykon was never the Professor's student. He tried to recruit Xykon, who murdered him out of indignation.
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    His parents gave their permission and Xykon was still a teenager. So, he was officially a student, whether he accept it or not.
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    IMO, "parent giving permission", isn't enough to qualify as "a student of _____"

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    Shmi "gave permission" for Anakin to become a "student of the Jedi way"- but it wasn't till Anakin accepted Qui-Gon's offer, that he actually became a student.

    In the same way, Xykon is not "a student at Sorcerer Academy" because he never accepted the offer.


    Xavion certainly doesn't say "You are now my student" or "Your parents have accepted on your behalf - you have no choice but to attend" - it's pretty clear that the choice is still being offered.
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    Thor took the time to be sure Durkon would be willing to reject his eternal reward and go back to the Prime "fight a battle" for him.

    The Dark One ordered Jirix to go back "fight battle of trades" when he wanted to stay.

    Considering the different circumstances I'm not sure if that makes both gods more different or more alike.

    Also bonus point for both afterlives being Valhalla-like.
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